EPTIf arsoul is scum that explains their terribleness.
If they are town I can mock them forever.
If DP is scum I can blame you all.
If rayn is scum, fucking WP on the marv lynch.
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Rels
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If arsoul is scum that explains their terribleness. If they are town I can mock them forever. If DP is scum I can blame you all. If rayn is scum, fucking WP on the marv lynch. | ||
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Rels
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On December 16 2015 00:01 Rels wrote: Rels: - I don't like his EOD, i really don't, i disagree with Damdred here. The thing is Rels said he hasn't read most of the posts when shit started to happen, yet he doesn't listen to anyone when he comes back at the EOD, just starts yelling idk.. something... - The scumread on marv suddenly disappears there, without him properly reading marv's posts - I agree with the two-head here, many of Rels' points seem to lead nowhere and are minor points that do not actually matter at all alignment-wise - Actually this shit here points towards Rels more than Greymist. Look at what i say about Greymist's post, and what Rels does: + Show Spoiler + On December 13 2015 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I never said there could not be scum between them. I said i think there is no way BOTH of the scum are between them. I provided analysis on why i reached to the conclusion. I am not arbitary putting people into categories, if you think my analysis is incorrect, please argue about why they are incorrect instead of just creating a narrative on the conclusion. I am not saying it is certain you are mafia. In fact i am far more sure of marv being scum at this point based purely on the fact that he well knows the game has started and has decided to not post anything at all. The conclusion that at least one of you / marv has to be mafia for me is completely logical based on the analysis on other people -- basically it is due to PoE. Again, if you do not agree with this, please point out where i am wrong in my analysis. Then we have something to argue about. Tbf, you can't just say something is scummy / wrong without actually explaining why it is that way. I feel like i have provided my thought process behind every conclusion i have made in this game -- so it would only be natural for you to actually try to disprove my conclusions if you attack my arguments, no? Again, i have already said why i think this is the case. Why is my (and Damdred's) "jump" on Rels "rushed and oppertunistic". I found out Rels' thought process illogical and the things he posted didn't match up with the conclusions he ended up with. I wanted him to elaborate further, and i don't think "that going nowhere" is my fault, since Rels' answer was basically "yeah that's what i think". In my opinion this has bearing when you analyze every single other player who has posted that far in the game. I consider it weird because if you are mafia you would either: 1) correctly call me town -- in which case it hinders your mislynch possibilities 2) incorrectly call me mafia -- in which case your logic is not sound in the first place and someone can catch you for it Furthermore at some point you were saying you didn't have a read on me. But around half of your case (idk.. is this a case?) is based on the timeline when you didn't have a read on me, and is also basically based on everything i did during that time.. How is it possible both of your statements are correct? On December 13 2015 19:50 Rels wrote: How is it scum indicative ? I'm one of the scumread of Damdred, it's normal he interrogates me on my actions. On the contrary, I think it's town indicative for rayn to share his thought process. It's only scum indicative if you can point how what he posted is not logical or deserves a scum agenda. He explained why he thought that. Can you point what is wrong or scum with his logic ? You seem to consider me town since apparently Damdred / rayn attacked me too easily. Why are you townreading me ? The notable difference here is the following: What i did i pointed out why Greymist was talking about something that i NEVER said. What Rels did is he just asked "why is this scummy?". I believe this shows a lack of reading the thread properly and understanding why people say the things they do, since the correct question here, for Rels, should be "rayn never said what you claim here -- why are you saying he did?". If i actually did what Greymist said in his post that WOULD be scummy, but the fact is i didn't. I think this is the strongest point against Rels, and i missed that before. Also notice that the post Rels made came AFTER i had already posted my response to Greymist. My preferred lynch order at this point is Rels --> Hydra. On December 15 2015 06:16 Rels wrote: rayn if by your fault GM is never lynched this game I'm gonna be super mad. I don't have anything to answer your things against me. Since then you have argued that Greymist is 100% scum and mostly nothing else. Okay, it's my fault if Greymist gets not lynched this game. I take it. | ||
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Rels
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Rels
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On December 16 2015 00:10 Rels wrote: =D funny guy. I can't fucking believe greymist forgot the reason he made an accusation post. Yeah i find that quite hilarious aswell but instead of like.. idk.. .answering people's concerns on you you decided to use all this time in telling why you are 100% sure he is mafia, when you had made your point already. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
Maybe i'll just sheep DP. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 16 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah i find that quite hilarious aswell but instead of like.. idk.. .answering people's concerns on you you decided to use all this time in telling why you are 100% sure he is mafia, when you had made your point already. I have no idea what question you want me to answer. In your list of points against me, only the "pointless questionning" stuff is false. The rest I cannot prove to be wrong, except that nothing is alignement indicative. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On December 16 2015 00:15 Rels wrote: I have no idea what question you want me to answer. In your list of points against me, only the "pointless questionning" stuff is false. The rest I cannot prove to be wrong, except that nothing is alignement indicative. ehh you literally said yourself "i don't know what i was doing on D1, my filter looks terrible". How is that fucking false? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 16 2015 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: ehh you literally said yourself "i don't know what i was doing on D1, my filter looks terrible". How is that fucking false? Maybe if you read the sentence again you will see I say "only the "pointless questionning" stuff is false" (= | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On December 16 2015 00:19 Rels wrote: Maybe if you read the sentence again you will see I say "only the "pointless questionning" stuff is false" (= Yes i read it right. You literallysaid, on N1, that your D1 was shit -- which makes your questioning pointless. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pbSgHuP.jpg) The Doctor I breadcrumbed it earlier in that plan post I made, quite surprised mafia didnt see it actually. After I made it it seemed far to obvious to me but w/e. I claim now becuase I thought about the plan, and am seeing that if the day proceeds with this idocy we'll get nothing done. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
In my opinion ~97 of those 100 questions are completely pointless and can't ever lead to finding mafia. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 16 2015 00:15 Rels wrote: Does marv usually ignore his teammates ? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 16 2015 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like, let's say you have asked ~100 questions that should lead you somewhere in this game. In my opinion ~97 of those 100 questions are completely pointless and can't ever lead to finding mafia. Well if that's your opinion whatever. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
His actions points the most to Rels being mafia. It points the least to DP being mafia (as i have argued). Hydra is somewhere in the middle. But i don't really think this kind of "casemaking" is legit, since people don't really have control over what marv does or doesn't. Like if Rels is town here, he has no way of defending himself against "marv did something" as he has no control over what mard does. It's a cheap way to make a case in my opinion, so that's why i think your question doesn't achieve much. | ||
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RtaniSoul
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 nice.Gg rels | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
Well in the end, at this point you have ended up with "rayn must be scum" when i was pushing a lynch on mafia. And you have also ended up with "this guy who is quite clearly the doctor if i read the thread properly"... So... idk, if you are town maybe you should have taken my advice after D1 and take a step back and sometimes think before you post.. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 16 2015 00:25 RtaniSoul wrote: So we won unless DP is somehow scum nice.Gg rels If you're town, you deserve to lose (= | ||
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