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kitaman27
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On November 03 2015 02:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 02:04 kitaman27 wrote:On November 03 2015 01:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I actually think shockeyy is kinda scummy for trying to nail rels on changing his reads. Town changes their reads a lot more than scum does and is less careful in general. What makes you say shockeyy is trying to nail Rels? There was a clear swap in opinion there without much explanation. I was about to quote similar posts myself since it wasn't clear where the switch up happened. It seems more to me like he is trying to follow Rels thought process, rather than crucifying him for a change in opinion. Since when do clear swaps in opinion make someone more likely scum than town?
I didn't say that, nor do I mind the town read on rayn from Rels. I said that it makes sense to try to understand why someone changes their opinion if it is not clear to follow and then try to determine whether or not the explanation is valid.
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On November 03 2015 02:29 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 02:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 03 2015 02:04 kitaman27 wrote:On November 03 2015 01:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I actually think shockeyy is kinda scummy for trying to nail rels on changing his reads. Town changes their reads a lot more than scum does and is less careful in general. What makes you say shockeyy is trying to nail Rels? There was a clear swap in opinion there without much explanation. I was about to quote similar posts myself since it wasn't clear where the switch up happened. It seems more to me like he is trying to follow Rels thought process, rather than crucifying him for a change in opinion. Since when do clear swaps in opinion make someone more likely scum than town? I didn't say that, nor do I mind the town read on rayn from Rels. I said that it makes sense to try to understand why someone changes their opinion if it is not clear to follow and then try to determine whether or not the explanation is valid. Yes, I agree that it makes sense. Where we differ is in that I felt he was trying to use it to paint Rels off as scummy.
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And now I'm off to capoeira, see you folks in some hours
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Here again.
Read Xata. Could swap Superbia out for him. I'll sit on this.
Current: raynpelikoneet/Superbia/myself
1st alt: Xata/rayn/myself 2nd alt: TBD
Going through Rels again, then Kita/Artanis/Shockey.
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Well, that sounds pretty good to me already (HtS/rayn/me). Does anyone have objections for HtS or rayn being in there?
Can't really think of a better alternative atm...
Not many players have done much to establish their innocence yet, so it's lucky there's only 3 players required for now.
Will probably vote against teams other than this, although I'm considering rayn/HtS/Superbia... But it still doesn't seem very good compared to the alternative.
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Well, really it's just inferior.
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Read through Kita's filter again. Most of his questions were answered or appeared so. So many questions, so few conclusions. Where do you stand on everyone now?
And my proposed lineups?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
I'm kinda impressed that HTS hasn't dropped off. I started the day thinking I'd auto-reject her based on how hard she was trying to paint herself in a good light, but maybe that could be interpreted as genuine leader townie. She seemed a bit trusting of players who posted a lot, while disregarded less active players, which makes sense on day one I suppose, but I don't think I'd be satisfied with that metric alone. When all is said and done, I'll probably reject the first nomination anyways based on the number of null reads I have out there, but at least I'm willing to consider it now.
If you're unwilling to include me, I'll see if I can come up with my preferred alternative. I think I'm satisfied with rayn being included. I've been anti-super, but I'll see if I'm being too harsh based on one post. He has been missing for a while though, which is a concern. Looking at his games in the database, he takes a bit longer to get going as mafia it seems.
I'm undecided on Xata. I'll come back to him after lunch.
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Anti-super? I didn't really notice it >.>
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On November 03 2015 00:07 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 20:41 Superbia wrote: 2. It downplays scum.
2 is super weird from a town perspective, and leans me more towards mafia. Regardless I feel like commenting on how "weak" mafia is is mafia indicative as it sets up for a lax game. This seems like quite the over analysis for an intro one-liner. There doesn't have to be spy motivation in every post. Why conclude that he is somehow pushing an agenda where it benefits him to trick town into thinking the spies will get steam rolled. Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 20:41 Superbia wrote: I feel like if you were town and believed this you would've focused on the strength of town, rather than the weakness of mafia, and as a result, would've said something along the lines of "mafia gonna get #rekt #noqt" (or something less trolly) Really a stretch here. More speculation without basis than anything.
Ah, I guess this counts....
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Still a pretty... unimpactful? push or whatever it was
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I'm pretty much going to reject the xata/rayn combo wombo. I'd rather see the first team mentioned - hts,super,xata go through. At least if a sabotage happens, we definitely have a good chance of finding the mafia until the next mission.
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Departing from Berlin shortly. About bloody time.
And Kita, as for less active players, sicklucker has done jack all, and Shockey I scumread but not for activity, I did pick out what I didn't like about him. Artanis I can go either way - he's inactive so if he was town he wouldn't have good reads, but I cannot rank him above say, rayn.
And "missing" for awhile, yeh that is why I am considering alternatives.
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I'm putting in my alternative. I'll evaluate when I'm sorted at home.
##nominate: Xatalos, raynpelikoneet, Half the Sky
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.......annnddddddd that didn't bold for some reason on mobile.
##nominate: Xatalos, raynpelikoneet, Half the Sky
Hoping there'll be more to work with when I'm home. Until later lovelies...
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On November 03 2015 03:15 ShoCkeyy wrote: I'm pretty much going to reject the xata/rayn combo wombo. I'd rather see the first team mentioned - hts,super,xata go through. At least if a sabotage happens, we definitely have a good chance of finding the mafia until the next mission.
Hm do you still scumread rayn? What's more, me&rayn? Anything else than rayn being angry and us "allying" in the thread?
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On November 03 2015 03:16 Half the Sky wrote: Departing from Berlin shortly. About bloody time.
And Kita, as for less active players, sicklucker has done jack all, and Shockey I scumread but not for activity, I did pick out what I didn't like about him. Artanis I can go either way - he's inactive so if he was town he wouldn't have good reads, but I cannot rank him above say, rayn.
And "missing" for awhile, yeh that is why I am considering alternatives.
Why are you scumreading me? Because of my null alignment on certain people? I answered that btw, idk if you even read it though. However, you're scumreading me for the wrong reasons.
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On November 03 2015 03:18 Half the Sky wrote: .......annnddddddd that didn't bold for some reason on mobile.
##nominate: Xatalos, raynpelikoneet, Half the Sky
Hoping there'll be more to work with when I'm home. Until later lovelies...
Well, that seems fine. I think it's acceptable at least. Would be good to hear possible objections now rather than later.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 03 2015 03:12 Xatalos wrote: Still a pretty... unimpactful? push or whatever it was
Well I stated my opinion about that post, asked HTS to comment, asked rayn to comment, asked HTS to clarify a second time, and then elaborated on my distrust. You don't find that sufficient?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 03 2015 01:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 01:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I actually think shockeyy is kinda scummy for trying to nail rels on changing his reads. Town changes their reads a lot more than scum does and is less careful in general. Not trying to nail anything, I'm just questioning his stance on rayn. If you read the thread you would of seen that Rels was actively going after rayn in the beginning, to be able to do a 180 and call him town in a few hours is quite interesting to me.
Are you satisfied with the response Rels gave? The topic got dropped after this post.
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