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On November 03 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 23:27 Half the Sky wrote:On November 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 23:12 Half the Sky wrote:On November 02 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:On November 02 2015 18:19 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them.
So what, do you think we are all scum or what? No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that. What i am trying to say that i find it suspicious you are not trying to make reads yet, and i think that is not normal for you. Especially when this is not a situation where making reads does not help anything (unlike for example if in a mafia game you think everyone who has posted so far are town). If i compared this to a normal mafia this would be a situation where you know at least one of the people who have posted is mafia for sure but you are refusing to figure it out further. OK bro. I don't have townreads on anyone that posted. I don't have scumreads on them either. I have suspicions on Superbia, kita and you. This post seems somewhat contradictory (not the only post I'll comment on from Rels). Based on the sentences bolded you should in theory be scumleaning the three you listed. I'm also not clear on why you are scumreading rayn or what is jumping out at yoru scumread on rayn. I understand your argument for your initial exchange on Superbia/Xatalos is that Superbia's read on Xatalos was manufactured and I'm seeing your followup on page 16, but where was the suspicion on rayn coming from page 11? I thought this question was scummy: On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I take it that you don't have any townreads Rels? No. That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them. So what, do you think we are all scum or what? No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that. On November 02 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
Also Rels, my post on shockey was because of him saying he's catching up, he hadn't posted jack all before that. It indicates that you read the thread, or at least the last few posts starting page 16, when you said you were stuck on page 12. Not sure it's alignement indicative but I have no idea why you would lie about that. I don't see how that made rayn scummy. He's coming to conclusions with his arguments and he's trying to see if you are coming to conclusions on people's alignments which is generally a town trait. And if you are struggling, why, townies can struggle with getting reads too (reference rsoultin in Drams) so naturally he's nitpicking to see your rationale. Mm maybe I didn't explain why I thought it was scummy. On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I take it that you don't have any townreads Rels? No. That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them. So what, do you think we are all scum or what? No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that. Oh I actually did! The scummy isn't nitpicking specific points, which is something town!rayn always do; the problem was asking a dumb question, when I remembered him getting angry at the fact he was being ask a dumb question, so I don't know why he would do this himself. Now rayn quoted the angry post, and it was not really the same context. Admittedly I'm finding this tenuous but after reading a few times I think I am understanding your viewpoint, you are saying that rayn isn't acting consistently between games (correct?). I don't agree this makes him scum, but I can at least see this. My only thing here - "are you mafia?" he and others have done this (example: Koshi - "how mafia are you?") out of spite/emotion, and I'm not sure such types of questions can really be taken seriously nor most people who ask them don't really expect, those questions are out of emotion imo - how can people really answer? For example when Koshi does this he accompanies that question with something else to substantiate that emotion (reference: Void), rayn does the same thing except he splits his posts up (reference SOTW I believe). The reason I disagreed with the question being dumb because I saw the purposes and how he reached his conclusions from the questions asked. Am I making sense here? You are making sense. You are wrong concerning rayn. I don't see him asking dumb questions like that. In fact, he gets angry when he's being asked dumb questions. But I agree the "do you really have 4 scumreads ?" was more of an accusation that a dumb question.
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On November 03 2015 01:40 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 01:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 03 2015 01:36 Half the Sky wrote:On November 03 2015 01:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 03 2015 01:17 Rels wrote:On November 03 2015 01:02 Xatalos wrote:On November 03 2015 01:01 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Rels why do you actually think i am town? I'm not sure you are. You're attacking people over small logical things and you are thinking about the game as a whole; that is town indicative, but I know you can replicate that as town; at least that what you and several other people claimed before. Hm... Who would replace rayn then? In which team ? rayn could be town so I'm OK with him in a team; I would prefer you / Xata / me though. I fully support this team. Hi! If you could find a way to bleed town in the next 3-4 hours it would greatly help me. Xx Afraid I'm not gonna be home for another 4 at least so that seems unlikely. Phoneposting atm. Fair enough. Don't work too hard. Or at least I hope the tail end for you is the sport part.
Yeah, I'm heading towards capoeira atm. Thanks for the congrats 
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Well fuck me then, my head is spinning trying to wrap around your posts Rels >_<
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Uh.... Rels, I think you could have expressed yourself more clearly there. I guess you stopped considering his questions dumb in that one post... And then started townreading him? It's a bit hard to follow how everything went for you.
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Alright leaving work.
HTS, I won't vote a team you or Superbia are part of atm. Obviously that could change between now or deadline. I'm OK with Xata / kita / rayn / me.
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I don't think rels' point on rayn is particularly alignment indicative hts, do you?
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On November 03 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 01:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 03 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:On November 03 2015 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Rels do you think rayn is scum or not? He's a townlean right now. That probably won't change for the better until a mission he's part of succeeds. Why do you think he's a town lean? Do you still want him to not be part of the first team? Cause he's attacking people over logical things, has hard townreads and is trying to solve the game as a whole. That's his town meta. I'm OK with him being part of the first team.
Wait what?
On November 02 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 22:25 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 17:52 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well thank you captain obvious.
I bet alot of players would not realize that unless you said it. You're welcome! I don't understand why you're hard townreading Superbia, who nitpicked something to death and made it the basis for a "mild" scumread. Is this your way of saying "i agree with the townread on rayn"? I don't understand. Maybe you quoted the wrong post bro. Can you point out to a post of yours where you imply you read me as town for my Superbia read? Because i really feel like your filter says the opposite. Where do I say I read you as town for your Superbia's read ?
So you're changing your stance on rayn from 3 hours ago? Wtf Rels...
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On November 03 2015 01:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 23:27 Half the Sky wrote:On November 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 23:12 Half the Sky wrote:On November 02 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:On November 02 2015 18:19 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:
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No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that. What i am trying to say that i find it suspicious you are not trying to make reads yet, and i think that is not normal for you. Especially when this is not a situation where making reads does not help anything (unlike for example if in a mafia game you think everyone who has posted so far are town). If i compared this to a normal mafia this would be a situation where you know at least one of the people who have posted is mafia for sure but you are refusing to figure it out further. OK bro. I don't have townreads on anyone that posted. I don't have scumreads on them either. I have suspicions on Superbia, kita and you. This post seems somewhat contradictory (not the only post I'll comment on from Rels). Based on the sentences bolded you should in theory be scumleaning the three you listed. I'm also not clear on why you are scumreading rayn or what is jumping out at yoru scumread on rayn. I understand your argument for your initial exchange on Superbia/Xatalos is that Superbia's read on Xatalos was manufactured and I'm seeing your followup on page 16, but where was the suspicion on rayn coming from page 11? I thought this question was scummy: On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I take it that you don't have any townreads Rels? No. That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them. So what, do you think we are all scum or what? No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that. On November 02 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
Also Rels, my post on shockey was because of him saying he's catching up, he hadn't posted jack all before that. It indicates that you read the thread, or at least the last few posts starting page 16, when you said you were stuck on page 12. Not sure it's alignement indicative but I have no idea why you would lie about that. I don't see how that made rayn scummy. He's coming to conclusions with his arguments and he's trying to see if you are coming to conclusions on people's alignments which is generally a town trait. And if you are struggling, why, townies can struggle with getting reads too (reference rsoultin in Drams) so naturally he's nitpicking to see your rationale. Mm maybe I didn't explain why I thought it was scummy. On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I take it that you don't have any townreads Rels? No. That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them. So what, do you think we are all scum or what? No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that. Oh I actually did! The scummy isn't nitpicking specific points, which is something town!rayn always do; the problem was asking a dumb question, when I remembered him getting angry at the fact he was being ask a dumb question, so I don't know why he would do this himself. Now rayn quoted the angry post, and it was not really the same context. Admittedly I'm finding this tenuous but after reading a few times I think I am understanding your viewpoint, you are saying that rayn isn't acting consistently between games (correct?). I don't agree this makes him scum, but I can at least see this. My only thing here - "are you mafia?" he and others have done this (example: Koshi - "how mafia are you?") out of spite/emotion, and I'm not sure such types of questions can really be taken seriously nor most people who ask them don't really expect, those questions are out of emotion imo - how can people really answer? For example when Koshi does this he accompanies that question with something else to substantiate that emotion (reference: Void), rayn does the same thing except he splits his posts up (reference SOTW I believe). The reason I disagreed with the question being dumb because I saw the purposes and how he reached his conclusions from the questions asked. Am I making sense here? You are making sense. You are wrong concerning rayn. I don't see him asking dumb questions like that. In fact, he gets angry when he's being asked dumb questions. But I agree the "do you really have 4 scumreads ?" was more of an accusation that a dumb question.
Yeah I saw that part, but the underlined is what I was referring to. And you said I (my read) at that time was wrong on rayn. And I also interpreted that as you including the "are you mafia" part as a dumb question. Not just even thinking about the 4 scumreads part.
Now do you see why we're going about in circles here?
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On November 03 2015 01:43 Rels wrote:
Alright leaving work.
HTS, I won't vote a team you or Superbia are part of atm. Obviously that could change between now or deadline. I'm OK with Xata / kita / rayn / me.
Kita?
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On November 03 2015 01:43 Xatalos wrote:
Uh.... Rels, I think you could have expressed yourself more clearly there. I guess you stopped considering his questions dumb in that one post... And then started townreading him? It's a bit hard to follow how everything went for you.
Dunno, it's clear in my head. It was actually a few hours ago that I dropped this "dumb question" stuff, since this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497443-resistance-v-section-31?page=13#257
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On November 03 2015 01:44 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 01:41 Rels wrote:On November 03 2015 00:56 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 23:27 Half the Sky wrote:On November 02 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 23:12 Half the Sky wrote:On November 02 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:On November 02 2015 18:19 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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What i am trying to say that i find it suspicious you are not trying to make reads yet, and i think that is not normal for you. Especially when this is not a situation where making reads does not help anything (unlike for example if in a mafia game you think everyone who has posted so far are town).
If i compared this to a normal mafia this would be a situation where you know at least one of the people who have posted is mafia for sure but you are refusing to figure it out further. OK bro. I don't have townreads on anyone that posted. I don't have scumreads on them either. I have suspicions on Superbia, kita and you. This post seems somewhat contradictory (not the only post I'll comment on from Rels). Based on the sentences bolded you should in theory be scumleaning the three you listed. I'm also not clear on why you are scumreading rayn or what is jumping out at yoru scumread on rayn. I understand your argument for your initial exchange on Superbia/Xatalos is that Superbia's read on Xatalos was manufactured and I'm seeing your followup on page 16, but where was the suspicion on rayn coming from page 11? I thought this question was scummy: On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:
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No. That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them. So what, do you think we are all scum or what? No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that. On November 02 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
Also Rels, my post on shockey was because of him saying he's catching up, he hadn't posted jack all before that. It indicates that you read the thread, or at least the last few posts starting page 16, when you said you were stuck on page 12. Not sure it's alignement indicative but I have no idea why you would lie about that. I don't see how that made rayn scummy. He's coming to conclusions with his arguments and he's trying to see if you are coming to conclusions on people's alignments which is generally a town trait. And if you are struggling, why, townies can struggle with getting reads too (reference rsoultin in Drams) so naturally he's nitpicking to see your rationale. Mm maybe I didn't explain why I thought it was scummy. On November 02 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I take it that you don't have any townreads Rels? No. That's interesting since there are five people who have posted something that can actually be at least considered as content. If you exclude yourself from the pool, that leaves you four people. Now for you, it is impossible that those four people are al scum -- there has to be at least one townie in them. So what, do you think we are all scum or what? No. That is a dumb question. I'm pretty sure you were the one refusing the answer dumb questions like "are you mafia ?", maybe in the newbie game with noobking. Let me check that. Oh I actually did! The scummy isn't nitpicking specific points, which is something town!rayn always do; the problem was asking a dumb question, when I remembered him getting angry at the fact he was being ask a dumb question, so I don't know why he would do this himself. Now rayn quoted the angry post, and it was not really the same context. Admittedly I'm finding this tenuous but after reading a few times I think I am understanding your viewpoint, you are saying that rayn isn't acting consistently between games (correct?). I don't agree this makes him scum, but I can at least see this. My only thing here - "are you mafia?" he and others have done this (example: Koshi - "how mafia are you?") out of spite/emotion, and I'm not sure such types of questions can really be taken seriously nor most people who ask them don't really expect, those questions are out of emotion imo - how can people really answer? For example when Koshi does this he accompanies that question with something else to substantiate that emotion (reference: Void), rayn does the same thing except he splits his posts up (reference SOTW I believe). The reason I disagreed with the question being dumb because I saw the purposes and how he reached his conclusions from the questions asked. Am I making sense here? You are making sense. You are wrong concerning rayn. I don't see him asking dumb questions like that. In fact, he gets angry when he's being asked dumb questions. But I agree the "do you really have 4 scumreads ?" was more of an accusation that a dumb question. Yeah I saw that part, but the underlined is what I was referring to. And you said I (my read) at that time was wrong on rayn. And I also interpreted that as you including the "are you mafia" part as a dumb question. Not just even thinking about the 4 scumreads part. Now do you see why we're going about in circles here?
LOL yeah p: I was explaining myself from before in the underlined post. I disagreed on you on the fact that rayn would ask dumb question, that's it.
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On November 03 2015 01:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 01:43 Xatalos wrote:
Uh.... Rels, I think you could have expressed yourself more clearly there. I guess you stopped considering his questions dumb in that one post... And then started townreading him? It's a bit hard to follow how everything went for you. Dunno, it's clear in my head. It was actually a few hours ago that I dropped this "dumb question" stuff, since this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497443-resistance-v-section-31?page=13#257
That was six hours ago, let's refer back to my post:
On November 03 2015 01:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:On November 03 2015 01:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 03 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:On November 03 2015 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Rels do you think rayn is scum or not? He's a townlean right now. That probably won't change for the better until a mission he's part of succeeds. Why do you think he's a town lean? Do you still want him to not be part of the first team? Cause he's attacking people over logical things, has hard townreads and is trying to solve the game as a whole. That's his town meta. I'm OK with him being part of the first team. Wait what? Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 22:25 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 17:52 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well thank you captain obvious.
I bet alot of players would not realize that unless you said it. You're welcome! I don't understand why you're hard townreading Superbia, who nitpicked something to death and made it the basis for a "mild" scumread. Is this your way of saying "i agree with the townread on rayn"? I don't understand. Maybe you quoted the wrong post bro. Can you point out to a post of yours where you imply you read me as town for my Superbia read? Because i really feel like your filter says the opposite. Where do I say I read you as town for your Superbia's read ? So you're changing your stance on rayn from 3 hours ago? Wtf Rels...
That post was right now.
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On November 03 2015 01:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 01:43 Xatalos wrote:
Uh.... Rels, I think you could have expressed yourself more clearly there. I guess you stopped considering his questions dumb in that one post... And then started townreading him? It's a bit hard to follow how everything went for you. Dunno, it's clear in my head. It was actually a few hours ago that I dropped this "dumb question" stuff, since this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497443-resistance-v-section-31?page=13#257
So that's the post where your stance changed?
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Oh nvm, that's what you just said 
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On November 03 2015 01:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:On November 03 2015 01:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 03 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:On November 03 2015 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Rels do you think rayn is scum or not? He's a townlean right now. That probably won't change for the better until a mission he's part of succeeds. Why do you think he's a town lean? Do you still want him to not be part of the first team? Cause he's attacking people over logical things, has hard townreads and is trying to solve the game as a whole. That's his town meta. I'm OK with him being part of the first team. Wait what? Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 22:25 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 17:52 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well thank you captain obvious.
I bet alot of players would not realize that unless you said it. You're welcome! I don't understand why you're hard townreading Superbia, who nitpicked something to death and made it the basis for a "mild" scumread. Is this your way of saying "i agree with the townread on rayn"? I don't understand. Maybe you quoted the wrong post bro. Can you point out to a post of yours where you imply you read me as town for my Superbia read? Because i really feel like your filter says the opposite. Where do I say I read you as town for your Superbia's read ? So you're changing your stance on rayn from 3 hours ago? Wtf Rels...
Yes.
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Someone talk to me. I'm lonely 
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On November 03 2015 01:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 01:45 Rels wrote:On November 03 2015 01:43 Xatalos wrote:
Uh.... Rels, I think you could have expressed yourself more clearly there. I guess you stopped considering his questions dumb in that one post... And then started townreading him? It's a bit hard to follow how everything went for you. Dunno, it's clear in my head. It was actually a few hours ago that I dropped this "dumb question" stuff, since this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497443-resistance-v-section-31?page=13#257 That was six hours ago, let's refer back to my post: Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 01:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 03 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:On November 03 2015 01:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 03 2015 01:34 Rels wrote:On November 03 2015 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Rels do you think rayn is scum or not? He's a townlean right now. That probably won't change for the better until a mission he's part of succeeds. Why do you think he's a town lean? Do you still want him to not be part of the first team? Cause he's attacking people over logical things, has hard townreads and is trying to solve the game as a whole. That's his town meta. I'm OK with him being part of the first team. Wait what? On November 02 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 22:25 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2015 17:52 Rels wrote:On November 02 2015 17:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well thank you captain obvious.
I bet alot of players would not realize that unless you said it. You're welcome! I don't understand why you're hard townreading Superbia, who nitpicked something to death and made it the basis for a "mild" scumread. Is this your way of saying "i agree with the townread on rayn"? I don't understand. Maybe you quoted the wrong post bro. Can you point out to a post of yours where you imply you read me as town for my Superbia read? Because i really feel like your filter says the opposite. Where do I say I read you as town for your Superbia's read ? So you're changing your stance on rayn from 3 hours ago? Wtf Rels... That post was right now.
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I dropped the dumb question stuff from 6 hours ago.
I was still scumreading rayn 3 hours ago.
I'm townleaning him right now.
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On November 03 2015 01:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Someone talk to me. I'm lonely
I liked kita's posts on Superbia. What do you think of them ?
I mean, if you even read the whole thread.
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On November 03 2015 01:43 Rels wrote:
Alright leaving work.
HTS, I won't vote a team you or Superbia are part of atm. Obviously that could change between now or deadline. I'm OK with Xata / kita / rayn / me.
Going to be blunt, that's not happening, Kita is definitely not happening right now, if I swap Superbia out, it's probably going to be for Xata, and right now I'm not sure of anyone else to swap me out unless I went Superbia/Xata/rayn.
*yawn*
Thankfully this doesn't need to be unanimous. What is concerning is the lack of reads from a lot of people (inactives aside) because other than Rels saying he won't vote for certain teams, not knowing what teams are going to pass makes this doubly difficult.
I know where rayn, Rels and Xata stand, kita to a lesser extent, the rest....shit. I'm hoping as the day wears on, we'll see more activity from the NA-based players (or at least I can resolve Kita). If I'm home on time, I should have at least 30m to see if I last minute swap someone.
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I actually think shockeyy is kinda scummy for trying to nail rels on changing his reads. Town changes their reads a lot more than scum does and is less careful in general.
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