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On September 30 2015 23:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote:
because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why? like, i say i have suspicions on so-and-so because i don't think he's done anything notable why do i need to tick off all the things i don't find notable? i was talking to damdy. i hadn't made a case. i didn't vote marv. i was trying to work out my reads if i made a case, sure...i could see this argument though i'm still not sure that i'd actually do it. i'm not really a case builder
mm
it makes sense
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On September 30 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:40 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote:
because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why? because it was the biggest thing he's done at that point ??? yeah but why do i have to talk about this specifically? if it's not notable why would i note it? lol >< The only reason I find that weird is that you bothered to make "sexy Marv" post partly referring to it
okay let me filter dive myself cause i know i explained the sexy marv post already -_-
i did say it was specifically in reference to his response to rayn and also the vote though. i know that i said this cause that's why i said sexy marv and y'all asked lol ><
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=47#922
ye it was in response to his post at the top of the page ^^
first two posts
anyway...
gb
yeah like i don't remember so well cause distracted, but he definitely was pretty sideline when you brought this case, marv and i know that was what damdy was concerned about with him earlier
i also don't have a strong townread on him and usually i do by this point when he's town?
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On September 30 2015 23:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:40 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote:
because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why? because it was the biggest thing he's done at that point ??? yeah but why do i have to talk about this specifically? if it's not notable why would i note it? lol >< The only reason I find that weird is that you bothered to make "sexy Marv" post partly referring to it okay let me filter dive myself cause i know i explained the sexy marv post already -_- i did say it was specifically in reference to his response to rayn and also the vote though. i know that i said this cause that's why i said sexy marv and y'all asked lol ><
yeah you said it was in reference of the vote (and rayn stuff) and not the content
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OK rsoultin I will assume you're town
I don't think GB or rayn are mafia. rayn because I found him being mafia super easily in personality mafia, and GB 'cause he had the same reads about Trfel than me at the start of the game. Why are they mafia ?
I think it's time for coolTLname and Trfel to come answer stuff. And it's time for scott to start doing stuff
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On September 30 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:44 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:40 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote:
because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why? because it was the biggest thing he's done at that point ??? yeah but why do i have to talk about this specifically? if it's not notable why would i note it? lol >< The only reason I find that weird is that you bothered to make "sexy Marv" post partly referring to it okay let me filter dive myself cause i know i explained the sexy marv post already -_- i did say it was specifically in reference to his response to rayn and also the vote though. i know that i said this cause that's why i said sexy marv and y'all asked lol >< yeah you said it was in reference of the vote (and rayn stuff) and not the content
yeah if you read the post the main thing was clearly his response to rayn and had nothing to do with his push on moosy lol >< vote was more afterthoughtish
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On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:33 LightningStrike wrote:
(Cuddles Tina) Tina I think you're town still and want to know your current reads atm please baby girl? eh i dunnae ls tbh i'm leaning toward gb and rayn with a preference for gb but i've been wasting my time with this and getting frustrated on the plus side i think rels is probably town and marv too so it yielded some fruit >< lol
Care to expand why GB and Rayn could be scum?
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On September 30 2015 23:48 Rels wrote:
OK rsoultin I will assume you're town
I don't think GB or rayn are mafia. rayn because I found him being mafia super easily in personality mafia, and GB 'cause he had the same reads about Trfel than me at the start of the game. Why are they mafia ?
I think it's time for coolTLname and Trfel to come answer stuff. And it's time for scott to start doing stuff
well
i find it unlikely that rayn doesn't push a scumread and everything about his post suggested he'd been scumreading me for ages but never did anything to suss out my alignment? that does not sound like a town rayn at all. usually he screams bloody murder, or at least prods to see if his read is right or not
as for gb...gb is super reactive as town. like all over the place reactive. i've seen him approach it as scum a little when filter diving old games, but it's definitely a town tell and it's missing here
also i think that truffle is town, and regardless if gb were town i don't see how he wouldn't get what truffle was doing with his first two posts. the backstory there is that gb was truffle's first coach? or one of his first coaches? and gb tries to teach his students how to start with a reaction post to make reads and get the game started, people participating. that was clearly what truffle was doing (or trying to convince people he was doing) and gb should know that better than anyone, having taught him it
like him not getting that is super odd and i think i mentioned it early in the game
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On September 30 2015 21:13 rsoultin wrote:
no one is looking at that, because the simple truth of the matter is there is no good scum motivation for what i did
a mislynch is a mislynch; my caring if it was marv or someone else is laughable if i were scum
caring = town
reevaluating and reversing reads suddenly when there are plenty of mislynch targets = town
When I get to work I'll repost the other things ive noted, but thIs set off bells.
So you KNOW I'm a mislynch I see. Rels too? Got it.
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the post GB made about being able to push me if we lynched rsoultin and she flipped town was very, very, very weird.
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On September 30 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
the post GB made about being able to push me if we lynched rsoultin and she flipped town was very, very, very weird.
i agree
like i think your push on me marv was one of the most obviously townie things you've done all game
this if he's wrong i'll push him thing was at best awful
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On September 30 2015 23:53 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 21:13 rsoultin wrote:
no one is looking at that, because the simple truth of the matter is there is no good scum motivation for what i did
a mislynch is a mislynch; my caring if it was marv or someone else is laughable if i were scum
caring = town
reevaluating and reversing reads suddenly when there are plenty of mislynch targets = town When I get to work I'll repost the other things ive noted, but thIs set off bells. So you KNOW I'm a mislynch I see. Rels too? Got it.
no, i know that with a votespread of more than two people besides myself, even if i were scum at least one would have to be a mislynch
hello scott ^^ your timing is interesting
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On September 30 2015 23:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
the post GB made about being able to push me if we lynched rsoultin and she flipped town was very, very, very weird. i agree like i think your push on me marv was one of the most obviously townie things you've done all game this if he's wrong i'll push him thing was at best awful
especially as he agreed with me on what i said about you
if he agrees with me, my push isn't scummy regardless of what you flip.
pushing away from Trfel? what nonsense!
so anyone who has a lynch candidate who is not-Trfel is by default scummy?
scummyscummy.
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On September 30 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
the post GB made about being able to push me if we lynched rsoultin and she flipped town was very, very, very weird.
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I have 20 minutes to read his filter and give my thoughts, after that I'm leaving work
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On September 30 2015 23:53 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 21:13 rsoultin wrote:
no one is looking at that, because the simple truth of the matter is there is no good scum motivation for what i did
a mislynch is a mislynch; my caring if it was marv or someone else is laughable if i were scum
caring = town
reevaluating and reversing reads suddenly when there are plenty of mislynch targets = town When I get to work I'll repost the other things ive noted, but thIs set off bells. So you KNOW I'm a mislynch I see. Rels too? Got it.
pretty cool you appear when the fight is over (=
will gladfully read your reads when you post them
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On September 30 2015 23:55 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:54 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
the post GB made about being able to push me if we lynched rsoultin and she flipped town was very, very, very weird. i agree like i think your push on me marv was one of the most obviously townie things you've done all game this if he's wrong i'll push him thing was at best awful especially as he agreed with me on what i said about youif he agrees with me, my push isn't scummy regardless of what you flip. pushing away from Trfel? what nonsense! so anyone who has a lynch candidate who is not-Trfel is by default scummy? scummyscummy.
ye, that's true lol >< i mean it's gb and he's capable of awful but i don't see how he could have so little reaction to this whole mess, and it sounds a lot like setting you up to push you d2...course i'm not sure he'd actually follow through with it as scum but he might
also gb's read on me this game has been very unclear >< i thought at first he was doing it on purpose with rayn to get a read, but if he wasn't it's super fucking odd that his read on me changes by implication constantly when he's barely talked about me at all
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meh, maybe it's possible i am wrong about you.
if i'm wrong we should totally lynch GB.
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On September 30 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote:I'm back guys and Shining plus Damdred had a question towards me after I went to play LoL with my clan for a little bit: Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 12:06 The Shining wrote:On September 30 2015 11:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I been kinda busy with some college but I finally got done with my college work and now going to play. I see I got people to think I could be either alignment just because I was actually being a little playful yet serious with lots of 1 liners -_- I could see some of truffle's post being similar to tropical storm but in that game(I told Tina this on skype and she can attest to this on how I caught truffle) he had a very forced town read on Tina it was like wow but so far some them seemed forced but not to the degree it was in Tropical Storm and his stuff going back and forth on Tina seems very odd idk if it's within his town play honestly. I could sheep a lynch on him but I should be careful of Rels considering our last game together >.>
@Damdred: What you take of Marv's alignment after your ego clash fight?
@Marv: Have you caught up to the thread currently and if so can you give me a list of your reads please babe?
@Tina: What your current read on Rayn right now since he had posted more?
@Scott: When I talked about Sicklucker claiming scum it was kind of a joke hence why I didn't vote him lol.
My reads of town:
Damdred: Not acting like his last two games with me when he would call me scum for horrendos reasons
Marv: He actually cared about how people thought of him and as scum he actually doesn't
scott: Seemed to be much more focused this time around and doing stuff
Tina: Tone read of mine she actually acts like this more as town than scum when asking for people's attention
GB: He doesn't make much sense as town and as scum he does make more sense
Rest null with Truffle leaning scum since I like the case on him. I don't really like this post. The excuse is NAI but there's a soft on Trfel saying his reads seem forced but not AS forced as Tropical. Could sheep a lynch on him. But then asks nothing to him or about him. Just votes him, while saying he wants to be wary of Rels cuz of last game. It doesn't seem like he believes in who he's sheeping but does it, anyway. The GB townread isn't clear either. He doesn't make much sense as town but more sense as scum? So do you think GB is not making sense this game, LS? He kinda not making sense a little bit this game plus he has a happier tone this game than the game when he rolled scum with me in Witchcraft 3. Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:On September 30 2015 11:38 LightningStrike wrote:On September 30 2015 11:22 Damdred wrote:
Ls how much have you read of the thread Pretty much all of it but it mostly skimmed through it honestly. So, you know I have a scum read on Marv that you should sheep? I thought you flopped your read at the time O_o Do you still think's he's scum and if so what's the case on him so I can at least take a look at it because I think he's town myself. Sorry I that was wanting to play LoL with my clan when I wasn't able to play LoL all day because of College and having to go to a concert for my Music Appreciation class :\ Also I noticed that sicklucker and Tfrel had a little fight O_o I also noticed that another fight broke loose between Marv and Tina and additonally Marv fought GB O_o even though I think both Tina and Marv are town it was kinda ego clashing I think or I'm wrong on Tina and prob eat a hat at EoD if I wrong on her. Now that I gotten that out of the way I wont be here at EoD due to my Geology Lab ending 10 mins before EoD and will be picked up at around EoD so :\ So unless my lab ends early gl on getting me to do stuff at EoD. @Marv outside of rsoultin who you think is Mafia? @Everyone that played with sicklucker: I used to be read him well but then I got wrecked by him in Linux. How you read his alignment now?
I already noted this. He's more free flowing as town. He hasn't said he's confirMed town yet. You are doing the play by play junk again and it's not helpful as town. What do you get out of their fight? I get town vs town vibes, but you do not say that...
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On September 30 2015 23:00 rsoultin wrote:
let me just make this super clear to everyone first
point 1) marv is known for tunneling people who scumread him. he did it in horn, he's done it elsewhere, it's not a secret
point 2) i had him as a strong townread
point 3) no one was really suspecting him
point 4) there was a fairly wide distribution of votes
when you look at these points together, in order to call me scum, you have to assume that i chose to very noticeably reverse a strong townread to a scumread on a prominent player known for tunneling people who scumread him. you have to assume that i did this despite there being ample opportunity to get off an easier mislynch because the other wagons can't all be scum
there is no early reason for me to do this as scum when he's not a wagon, not being suspected. it's suicide as scum
town doesn't care about that. town cares about finding scum
there is 100% more town motivation to reverse a read here than there is scum motivation, because SCUM LITERALLY WOULD NEVER DO THIS
if you guys are retarded enough to lynch me anyway...gl. and i kinda hope scum wins cause i'm pretty sure marv is town and that level of derpery is ridiculous ><
there is so much wrong in this post.
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OK that's what I thought. GB's origin for Trfel's read is not his opening posts but this:
On September 29 2015 07:39 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:37 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 07:33 sicklucker wrote:On September 29 2015 07:32 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 07:30 sicklucker wrote:
My bad town read is trfel because hes making a god awful vote 10 minutes into day 1 that alone will never last 48 hours in 1000 years And why won't it last? because i dont even understand it and the day is only 1% over. you will find something else I never understood why people vote 1 minute into a game and then change it 19 times Do you have a read on rsoultin? On September 29 2015 07:35 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2015 07:33 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, why wasn't being town one of the requirements for being your buddy? What kind of answer were you expecting when you asked this? No clue, but I was hoping that it would be useful. Ok so what do you make out of his answer?
So that's not scummy (related to rsoultin's "GB coached Trfel he should know posts like that are bait")
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