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plus repeatedly calling my case omgus when i explained it wasn't because she was calling me mafia, but the process, the way it was framed, the marginialising with omgus, the way she presented my earlygame read.
all that jazz.
you can keep saying it's just because you switched your read, but it really isn't
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On September 30 2015 23:13 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:11 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:04 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:03 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:01 marvellosity wrote:
i don't understand how rsoultin townreading me earlier changes anything in the slightest about what i said. 'cause your case is based on the fact that she townread you, then scumread you when you made no posts in between i never said once about having no posts in between. OK true. That was my interpretation of the case. Then all this talking about rsoultin townreading you earlier means nothing the point of it was that she got a very strong townread on me and then about 10 players in the game (it is literally 10 players, i went from #2 towniest to #12 towniest) leapt ahead of me in the interim while i was pushing moosy or whatever i was doing. i.e. i don't believe the reevaluation for a moment except that the reason i was townreading you i thought could be wrong and disregarding that i didn't like the rest of your play there's nothing unbelievable about it why didn't post this "the only thing marv did (Moosy push) is useless because of X X X" when you re evaluated ? Or did you ? cause i didn't go through and just tick off why everything was useless? i went hey...has he done anything notable since the reaction to the votes? i can't even remember...that's a bad sign
mm that's not believable
how could marv go from top town to lynch candidate with the following reason: "marv did nothing notable"
without you checking how him pushing Moosy is not notable
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On September 30 2015 23:14 marvellosity wrote:I mean I got bored of filtering myself, but just a handful of posts that aren't just about rsoultin switching her read: Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 18:34 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 18:32 GlowingBear wrote:On September 30 2015 18:28 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 09:59 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 09:56 Damdred wrote:
RS rayn is town? stronger read on you and marv, but i think sohe's being malleable which is more a town trait of his...malleable for rayn, anyway i know that the scott vote contradicts that lol >< On September 30 2015 09:21 rsoultin wrote:
ye that was about it, other than agree with marv 100% on the semantics argument earlier not as interesting as you think it was rayn lol ><
strong townreads
damdy
rayn
marv
On September 30 2015 11:09 rsoultin wrote:
eeeehhhh something's off...has marv been pushing anything worth pushing, damdy? i know you think he's lock town, but i don't think he's ever done anything as asinine as park a vote on me with the mandate "make a post you can only make as town"...it's not a scumread at all and i have one of the most difficult playstyles to nail down, if people's difficulty in catching my scumplay is any indication mafia. ##unvote
##vote: rsoultin I don't see how that questioning revokes her town read on you. Could you break it down to my humble mind to understand? no, not really. if you can't see it, i don't care. i'm probably not gonna get her lynched anyway. but making me her top town (or one of two at least, going by the first post) into questioniing what i've been pushing, and specifically SAYING TO DAMDRED THAT DAMDRED THINKS I AM LOCK TOWN. well no - so does she according to her posts... why is she putting this on damdred?she's asking her top townread about her other top townread saying her top townread is doing asinine things and bleh Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 19:00 marvellosity wrote:Just to make it clear exactly why my suspicions were aroused on rsoultin, in posts that literally no-one can have missed at the start of my filter: On September 29 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 08:58 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 08:57 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, are you staying up late tonight?
I need someone to talk to when I actually read the game properly.... you can talk to me :/ if you still think i'm mafia, you're kind of awful, tbh what have you done that is so townie you would call someone awful for not townreading you? On September 29 2015 09:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 09:10 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 08:58 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 08:57 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, are you staying up late tonight?
I need someone to talk to when I actually read the game properly.... you can talk to me :/ if you still think i'm mafia, you're kind of awful, tbh what have you done that is so townie you would call someone awful for not townreading you? truffle specifically is slow on the uptake boring me, marv your calling people awful and calling stuff boring just makes you look scummy On September 29 2015 17:49 marvellosity wrote:On September 29 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:36 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:29 rsoultin wrote:
-squints at-
so i'm wondering how early is too early to start reading into people setting up moving votes to me later ^^ scum will be in there somewhere It is never too early especially when you point out something relatively inconsequential in a half serious post where I list 3 other people besides you. kudos for nonsense never too early to start suspecting people saying they could lynch me meets your post is inconsequential and not serious how? are you or are you not scumreading the people in your list? -sighs- My post was what I was thinking, but I phrased it in a joking manner. I just find it strange that you're picking out one bit about yourself in a post that was phrased jokingly especially when I mention that one other person that you're townreading (Trfel) is scummy in my eyes. ^ I was just phrasing that bit sarcastically. then it wasn't inconsequential and it was serious, now wasn't it? see i'm watching this pretty mislynch forming up and i'm seeing who is taking advantage, cause otherwise they have to shoot me ^^ it's still probably early for that, though the soft scumreads still don't make me feel all warm and fuzzy about you, especially when you try to downplay them like you just did ^ mafia paranoia On September 29 2015 17:57 marvellosity wrote:
i'm just gonna tunnel rsoultin till she makes posts she can't make as mafia, which she always does as town
she has not yet. yet rsoultin describes my push as asinine because it was only about wanting her to post stuff she only does as town. Well, yes, of course, but it's pretty obvious from what came before that isn't why i put her vote on her. I put my vote on her BEFORE i made the comment about making townie posts QED Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 19:03 marvellosity wrote:
also, the fact remains that rsoultin hasn't made a single post that she can't make as mafia. i'd be happy for someone to prove me wrong, but "tone" isn't good enough. Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 19:11 marvellosity wrote:
The massive switch is definitely part of it. It's also the way it's framed. Putting the responsibility on Damdred for Damdred's hard townread on me when she previously supposedly had one. My posts being good enough for a top 2 townread into describing me as a non-entity. Describing her vote on me as having had the desired reaction because it made me react and look town (where did that go?). [b]Describing my push on her at the start of the game in a way that puts what I did in a very bad light, and a very incorrect light.
I would think if she was suddenly suspicious of me (as town) she would at least have CHECKED, cursorily, the reasons for my mafiaread on her at the start of the game, but no. Instead it's "asinine" (when it wasn't) [/b]
regarding addressing damdred...
yes, he is my top townread, and more than that he's fucking smart and i respect his opinion, so i wanted to talk to him about my change in reads. stating that he thought you were lock town was acknowledging that i knew his previous read on you. that doesn't mean i was denying that i had you as a top townread earlier, just because i didn't mention it? obviously i had doubts at the time of this post. <- there is nothing scummy about this
regarding your early scumreads and calling your "post a town post or i'll tunnel you till the end of days" push asinine...
you didn't like my saying that truffle should know i was town...truffle knows me well and i was leaving him hints in my posts that i saw what he was doing with his opening. so yes, in my opinion, he should have. i told you it was specific for him when you commented the first time...which makes your comment moot.
you then said that me calling people awful or boring is scummy. everyone who has played with me knows i do that as town. constantly. this is nai
calling my paranoia mafia paranoia...what makes it mafia and not town? i do think that mafia cackles and takes advantage of a d1 rsoul mislynch. why wouldn't they?
and yes i think the entire mandate is asinine because i honestly don't believe there is such a thing as a post that couldn't be made as scum. by anyone. in context there are lots of things that are more likely to come from town, but i don't think there's such a thing as a pure town post? especially from me? i'm not a shit scum player except when i'm lazy lol >< and yeah, with your scumreads earlier based on so little and in my opinion extremely misguided to the point of even being retarded, i found it weird. i've never seen you do something like that before -_- you're usually more of a fence sitter
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On September 30 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:13 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:11 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:04 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:03 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:01 marvellosity wrote:
i don't understand how rsoultin townreading me earlier changes anything in the slightest about what i said. 'cause your case is based on the fact that she townread you, then scumread you when you made no posts in between i never said once about having no posts in between. OK true. That was my interpretation of the case. Then all this talking about rsoultin townreading you earlier means nothing the point of it was that she got a very strong townread on me and then about 10 players in the game (it is literally 10 players, i went from #2 towniest to #12 towniest) leapt ahead of me in the interim while i was pushing moosy or whatever i was doing. i.e. i don't believe the reevaluation for a moment except that the reason i was townreading you i thought could be wrong and disregarding that i didn't like the rest of your play there's nothing unbelievable about it why didn't post this "the only thing marv did (Moosy push) is useless because of X X X" when you re evaluated ? Or did you ? cause i didn't go through and just tick off why everything was useless? i went hey...has he done anything notable since the reaction to the votes? i can't even remember...that's a bad sign mm that's not believable how could marv go from top town to lynch candidate with the following reason: "marv did nothing notable" without you checking how him pushing Moosy is not notable
because i didn't find it notable the first time i read it @.@
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On September 30 2015 23:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:13 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:11 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:04 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:03 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:01 marvellosity wrote:
i don't understand how rsoultin townreading me earlier changes anything in the slightest about what i said. 'cause your case is based on the fact that she townread you, then scumread you when you made no posts in between i never said once about having no posts in between. OK true. That was my interpretation of the case. Then all this talking about rsoultin townreading you earlier means nothing the point of it was that she got a very strong townread on me and then about 10 players in the game (it is literally 10 players, i went from #2 towniest to #12 towniest) leapt ahead of me in the interim while i was pushing moosy or whatever i was doing. i.e. i don't believe the reevaluation for a moment except that the reason i was townreading you i thought could be wrong and disregarding that i didn't like the rest of your play there's nothing unbelievable about it why didn't post this "the only thing marv did (Moosy push) is useless because of X X X" when you re evaluated ? Or did you ? cause i didn't go through and just tick off why everything was useless? i went hey...has he done anything notable since the reaction to the votes? i can't even remember...that's a bad sign mm that's not believable how could marv go from top town to lynch candidate with the following reason: "marv did nothing notable" without you checking how him pushing Moosy is not notable because i didn't find it notable the first time i read it @.@
I thought you liked the Moosy vote, and that's why you posted sexy Marv! Going to check but I'm pretty sure you said that
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like essentially marv i couldn't even see how your early scumleans made any sense, cause you've played with me enough to know that i call people awful and scummy, and i don't see how paying attention to who is jumping onto a wagon later looking for scum is mafia paranoia
to me the thrust of your push seemed to be "she hasn't posted a post she can only post as town"
which is...asinine
i mean completely asinine if you have no good reason to scumread me prior. and i would never have called those reasons you gave earlier good, or would have thought that you thought they were any good
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On September 30 2015 23:29 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:26 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:13 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:11 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:07 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:04 marvellosity wrote:On September 30 2015 23:03 Rels wrote:
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'cause your case is based on the fact that she townread you, then scumread you when you made no posts in between i never said once about having no posts in between. OK true. That was my interpretation of the case. Then all this talking about rsoultin townreading you earlier means nothing the point of it was that she got a very strong townread on me and then about 10 players in the game (it is literally 10 players, i went from #2 towniest to #12 towniest) leapt ahead of me in the interim while i was pushing moosy or whatever i was doing. i.e. i don't believe the reevaluation for a moment except that the reason i was townreading you i thought could be wrong and disregarding that i didn't like the rest of your play there's nothing unbelievable about it why didn't post this "the only thing marv did (Moosy push) is useless because of X X X" when you re evaluated ? Or did you ? cause i didn't go through and just tick off why everything was useless? i went hey...has he done anything notable since the reaction to the votes? i can't even remember...that's a bad sign mm that's not believable how could marv go from top town to lynch candidate with the following reason: "marv did nothing notable" without you checking how him pushing Moosy is not notable because i didn't find it notable the first time i read it @.@ I thought you liked the Moosy vote, and that's why you posted sexy Marv! Going to check but I'm pretty sure you said that
again, i already answered this
i liked the vote, the case was eh
i liked the vote cause i was scumreading moosy
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(Cuddles Tina) Tina I think you're town still and want to know your current reads atm please baby girl?
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you did:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 22:09 rsoultin wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 22:05 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 22:01 rsoultin wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 21:58 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 21:48 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 21:36 rsoultin wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 29 2015 20:03 rsoultin wrote:
in other words, no, i did not find that push noteworthy or worthy of marv as a player...i liked him voting for moosy cause i was scumreading moosy, nothing more. the sexy comment was mostly for his response to rayn's bitching and the vote, not the argument[/QUOTE]
you also said the "sexy Marv" was for the vote, not the push.
It is not believable. So in your timeline:
1 - marv votes Moosy
2 - rsoultin likes the vote and post "sexy Marv"
3 - rsoultin finds the push useless but doesn't say it
4 - rsoultin townreads Marv
5 - rsoultin scumreads Marv for not doing anything notable, but does not explain how the Moosy push is not notable
how the fuck do you congratulate marv for his vote and at the same time thinks his push is useless ? It's nonsense
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you did:
On September 30 2015 22:09 rsoultin wrote:
in other words, no, i did not find that push noteworthy or worthy of marv as a player...i liked him voting for moosy cause i was scumreading moosy, nothing more. the sexy comment was mostly for his response to rayn's bitching and the vote, not the argument
you also said the "sexy Marv" was for the vote, not the push.
It is not believable. So in your timeline:
1 - marv votes Moosy
2 - rsoultin likes the vote and post "sexy Marv"
3 - rsoultin finds the push useless but doesn't say it
4 - rsoultin townreads Marv
5 - rsoultin scumreads Marv for not doing anything notable, but does not explain how the Moosy push is not notable
how the fuck do you congratulate marv for his vote and at the same time thinks his push is useless ? It's nonsense
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[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 23:34 Rels wrote:
you did:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 22:09 rsoultin wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 22:05 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 22:01 rsoultin wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 21:58 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 21:48 Rels wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 30 2015 21:36 rsoultin wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 29 2015 20:03 rsoultin wrote:
in other words, no, i did not find that push noteworthy or worthy of marv as a player...i liked him voting for moosy cause i was scumreading moosy, nothing more. the sexy comment was mostly for his response to rayn's bitching and the vote, not the argument[/QUOTE]
you also said the "sexy Marv" was for the vote, not the push.
It is not believable. So in your timeline:
1 - marv votes Moosy
2 - rsoultin likes the vote and post "sexy Marv"
3 - rsoultin finds the push useless but doesn't say it
4 - rsoultin townreads Marv
5 - rsoultin scumreads Marv for not doing anything notable, but does not explain how the Moosy push is not notable
how the fuck do you congratulate marv for his vote and at the same time thinks his push is useless ? It's nonsense[/QUOTE]
no -_-
i called him sexy mostly for calling rayn's semantics argument shit, and liked the vote because he was voting for my scumread
why do you have a problem with this now when you didn't before?
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because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point
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On September 30 2015 23:33 LightningStrike wrote:
(Cuddles Tina) Tina I think you're town still and want to know your current reads atm please baby girl?
eh i dunnae ls tbh i'm leaning toward gb and rayn with a preference for gb but i've been wasting my time with this and getting frustrated
on the plus side i think rels is probably town and marv too so it yielded some fruit >< lol
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On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote:
because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point
why?
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On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote:
because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why?
because it was the biggest thing he's done at that point ???
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On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote:
because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why?
like, i say i have suspicions on so-and-so because i don't think he's done anything notable
why do i need to tick off all the things i don't find notable? i was talking to damdy. i hadn't made a case. i didn't vote marv. i was trying to work out my reads
if i made a case, sure...i could see this argument though i'm still not sure that i'd actually do it. i'm not really a case builder
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On September 30 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote:
because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why? because it was the biggest thing he's done at that point ???
yeah but why do i have to talk about this specifically? if it's not notable why would i note it? lol ><
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i do think GB could be mafia also.
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On September 30 2015 23:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote:
because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why? because it was the biggest thing he's done at that point ??? yeah but why do i have to talk about this specifically? if it's not notable why would i note it? lol ><
The only reason I find that weird is that you bothered to make "sexy Marv" post partly referring to it
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like i'm pretty sure i said something about marv just doing semantics arguments which would have been a reference to moosy's case but i didn't specifically outline it? and i'm still not sure why you assume that the only way it makes sense for me to go "he didn't do anything interesting" is by outlining all the boring things?
your reasoning here isn't very solid, rels
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