it's not a real argument
your case is still weak as shit
other mafia, go
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
it's not a real argument your case is still weak as shit other mafia, go | ||
sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On September 30 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On September 30 2015 22:45 sicklucker wrote: On September 30 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote: like seriously...he was right on me LATE my first scumgame after realizing i'd hard pocketed him...i was previously his top town that is the only time i'd say is comparable to this one and it's not remotely similar? just because the one time he tunneled me he was right doesn't make him right now @.@ he's not one of the better players at reading me by a longshot. course there really aren't any lol the point is actually evaluate his case and decide from there his case is just that i changed my read on him and nitnoidisms from earlier that he'd already dropped and were tonal it's not a case on scum, and it's not strong, but regardless you should want to evaluate it for yourself @.@ oh you shouldnt have said that lol why not? cause dumb people will not notice the logical fallacy and follow it anyway? lol if i get lynched i will enjoy mocking you for your shit ass "certainty" and refusal to look at anyone else in the game and i will refer back to this game LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TIME you attempt to say you have a good read on me because it means marv is 1 - 0 in this spot and that makes me want to vote you even more | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 30 2015 22:48 rsoultin wrote: also literally EVERY SINGLE TIME you attempt to use the "i'm never certain on anyone so this says something" argument like you did in gaiden it's not a real argument your case is still weak as shit other mafia, go it really isn't. but thanks for keeping me certain with posts like these | ||
sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On September 30 2015 22:48 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On September 30 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote: On September 30 2015 22:45 sicklucker wrote: On September 30 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote: like seriously...he was right on me LATE my first scumgame after realizing i'd hard pocketed him...i was previously his top town that is the only time i'd say is comparable to this one and it's not remotely similar? just because the one time he tunneled me he was right doesn't make him right now @.@ he's not one of the better players at reading me by a longshot. course there really aren't any lol the point is actually evaluate his case and decide from there his case is just that i changed my read on him and nitnoidisms from earlier that he'd already dropped and were tonal it's not a case on scum, and it's not strong, but regardless you should want to evaluate it for yourself @.@ oh you shouldnt have said that lol why not? cause dumb people will not notice the logical fallacy and follow it anyway? lol if i get lynched i will enjoy mocking you for your shit ass "certainty" and refusal to look at anyone else in the game and i will refer back to this game LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TIME you attempt to say you have a good read on me because it means marv is 1 - 0 in this spot and that makes me want to vote you even more like seriously why the fuck would i even do this as scum? someone tell me why i would MARV TELL ME WHY I WOULD | ||
sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On September 30 2015 09:41 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On September 30 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, can I have some advice? I could read the thread tonight and almost certainly avoid being lynched. Or I could go watch a movie with friends, which would be far more relaxing, but could very well end with me being lynched. Or I could try to catch up on my studies, where I'm quite far behind (especially for only being a few weeks into the semester, I know I'm quite talented). I don't know what to do I kinda just want to sleep early and forget about all of it... trfel plz -_- feels like this could have been said in the scum qt lol. maybe your not partners | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
fuck it if the lynch is between me and trfel, 9 times out of 10 we're lynching town today good job retards i'm gonna clear my head and come back later...class soon anyway -_- | ||
sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 30 2015 18:28 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On September 30 2015 09:59 rsoultin wrote: On September 30 2015 09:56 Damdred wrote: RS rayn is town? stronger read on you and marv, but i think so he's being malleable which is more a town trait of his...malleable for rayn, anyway i know that the scott vote contradicts that lol >< Show nested quote + On September 30 2015 09:21 rsoultin wrote: ye that was about it, other than agree with marv 100% on the semantics argument earlier not as interesting as you think it was rayn lol >< strong townreads damdy rayn marv Show nested quote + On September 30 2015 11:09 rsoultin wrote: eeeehhhh something's off...has marv been pushing anything worth pushing, damdy? i know you think he's lock town, but i don't think he's ever done anything as asinine as park a vote on me with the mandate "make a post you can only make as town"...it's not a scumread at all and i have one of the most difficult playstyles to nail down, if people's difficulty in catching my scumplay is any indication mafia. ##unvote ##vote: rsoultin She townread you here: On September 29 2015 20:03 rsoultin wrote: meh marv is probably not scum which means whoever is scum is probably cackling into their cheerios especially since damdy isn't scum either marv, you should probably step away or something, though :/ and between this post and her scumread post you did things, so she could have re evaluated. So the question is: did your posts between the original townread and the scumread really warranted a scumread ? Because if that's the case what she's saying makes sense. The only real thing you did during this series of post was a Moosy push, and here are her reasons for finding this push useless: On September 30 2015 22:09 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On September 30 2015 22:05 Rels wrote: On September 30 2015 22:01 rsoultin wrote: On September 30 2015 21:58 Rels wrote: On September 30 2015 21:48 Rels wrote: On September 30 2015 21:36 rsoultin wrote: On September 29 2015 20:03 rsoultin wrote: meh marv is probably not scum which means whoever is scum is probably cackling into their cheerios especially since damdy isn't scum either marv, you should probably step away or something, though :/ this was where i townread him for his reaction, early yesterday morning over 24 hours ago, and when i actually unvoted the sexy post was like 6-8 hours after that between classes cause i liked his vote on moosy and i thought rayn's bitching over semantics was just as asinine as marv's post suggested OK let me check if that makes sense It doesn't fucking make sense marv did things between this post and your scumread of him. The two main things are him defending Trfel and attacking Moosy, both things you're in agreement with! On September 29 2015 23:27 marvellosity wrote: On September 29 2015 23:25 Rels wrote: On September 29 2015 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: On September 29 2015 23:12 Rels wrote: On September 29 2015 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: On September 29 2015 23:07 marvellosity wrote: ok. i'm not sure how/why that's the same though? It's like he says one thing then suddenly he says something completely different when anything should really have not changed in his opinion. It's not obvious from the post you quoted, but if that is what happened, then it is similar to this game's rsoultin read progression. Trfel had called ruxxar mafia for 3 ird-days. (D1/N1). On D2 he says what is quoted red in my post. oooo I thought you were talking about deconduo's read!! Yeah if he scumread ruxxar all game, the sentence "I need to look closer at ruxxar" makes 0 sense. It is not exactly what's happening this game (Trfel didn't forget why he was scumreading rsoultin; he dismissed it, then found another reason) but it's similar! Perfect (= i'm sure i might just be mad, but they don't seem that similar to me at all 1. scumreading someone (seriously) all game -> saying you need to look at them/forgetting what it is 2. scumreading someone with no particular pretense of a read -> weird waffle On September 30 2015 00:40 marvellosity wrote: ##unvote ##vote: moosydoosy for the shit tlname read and the shitty vote on me, a null player placing really unwarranted implicit trust in Damdred's metaread How can you scumread marv on this series of posts when the two maings things he's done are in agreement with your reads ? i was no longer sure on moosy's being scum at the time i started reevaluating and regardless, him saying things that i agree with does not make him town by default which is why your scott's list post is good cause i agree with the reads assertion is weak as shit my assertion which you are not evaluating while seeing if i say things that make "sense" was that he hadn't done much of anything productive all game...even after he responded to the pressure. specifically i asked damdy if he made any pushes worth pushing this you just quoted has nothing to do with that it's not only that. marv pushed for Moosy's lynch. Now maybe you disagreed with this read, but you never said it was why you scumread marv; you said it was because he didn't do anything noteworthy. Which is false since he pushed Moosy i said a push worth pushing...obviously there's some subjectivity involved here he clearly started pushing moosy for voting for him then when off on moosy saying cool "scared" him...which just isn't anything worthwhile imo like even if moosy were scum, why would he be scared of cool? it's definitely not a scum slip and implies just what moosy said it implied...that moosy was calling cool scummy or scum in other words, no, i did not find that push noteworthy or worthy of marv as a player...i liked him voting for moosy cause i was scumreading moosy, nothing more. the sexy comment was mostly for his response to rayn's bitching and the vote, not the argument I think it makes sense | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
point 1) marv is known for tunneling people who scumread him. he did it in horn, he's done it elsewhere, it's not a secret point 2) i had him as a strong townread point 3) no one was really suspecting him point 4) there was a fairly wide distribution of votes when you look at these points together, in order to call me scum, you have to assume that i chose to very noticeably reverse a strong townread to a scumread on a prominent player known for tunneling people who scumread him. you have to assume that i did this despite there being ample opportunity to get off an easier mislynch because the other wagons can't all be scum there is no early reason for me to do this as scum when he's not a wagon, not being suspected. it's suicide as scum town doesn't care about that. town cares about finding scum there is 100% more town motivation to reverse a read here than there is scum motivation, because SCUM LITERALLY WOULD NEVER DO THIS if you guys are retarded enough to lynch me anyway...gl. and i kinda hope scum wins cause i'm pretty sure marv is town and that level of derpery is ridiculous >< | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On September 30 2015 23:01 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand how rsoultin townreading me earlier changes anything in the slightest about what i said. 'cause your case is based on the fact that she townread you, then scumread you when you made no posts in between | ||
sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On September 30 2015 23:00 rsoultin wrote: let me just make this super clear to everyone first point 1) marv is known for tunneling people who scumread him. he did it in horn, he's done it elsewhere, it's not a secret point 2) i had him as a strong townread point 3) no one was really suspecting him point 4) there was a fairly wide distribution of votes when you look at these points together, in order to call me scum, you have to assume that i chose to very noticeably reverse a strong townread to a scumread on a prominent player known for tunneling people who scumread him. you have to assume that i did this despite there being ample opportunity to get off an easier mislynch because the other wagons can't all be scum there is no early reason for me to do this as scum when he's not a wagon, not being suspected. it's suicide as scum town doesn't care about that. town cares about finding scum there is 100% more town motivation to reverse a read here than there is scum motivation, because SCUM LITERALLY WOULD NEVER DO THIS if you guys are retarded enough to lynch me anyway...gl. and i kinda hope scum wins cause i'm pretty sure marv is town and that level of derpery is ridiculous >< | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On September 30 2015 23:03 sicklucker wrote: I forget my reads as scum all the time. town not so much. im gonna look into what rel just posted tho i didn't forget my fucking reads! i changed my read! | ||
Rels
France13467 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 30 2015 23:03 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On September 30 2015 23:01 marvellosity wrote: i don't understand how rsoultin townreading me earlier changes anything in the slightest about what i said. 'cause your case is based on the fact that she townread you, then scumread you when you made no posts in between i never said once about having no posts in between. | ||
sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
marv did things between this post and your scumread of him. The two main things are him defending Trfel and attacking Moosy, both things you're in agreement with" is that true? | ||
rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On September 30 2015 23:04 Rels wrote: rsoultin stop posting this fucking thing. You could have town or scum motivation to put suspicions on marv, repeating this doesn't fucking matter. What's matter is if your read makes sense or not no, the how and the circumstances absolutely do matter -_- my read making sense matters, too, but that's actually a very strong reason against my ever being scum here scum actually does shit with a purpose in mind i mean seriously >< | ||
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