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A few questions for you obi for things that came up as I was looking through your filter, if you don't mind responding when you have a chance.
What was your upgrade condition and did you achieve it?
On August 21 2015 06:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm perfectly happy with killing rux.
If he's actually blue somehow, oh well.
Does this infer that you didn't think rux was blue after his claim? It seems weird that you would make that clarification when you knowingly joined a theme game.].
On August 23 2015 11:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah, mark that as "might." He's just not active enough for my tastes. I liked most of the few posts that he had,
Which posts of rayn did you like at the time you made this post? Looking at what he had said by that point, there were only a couple short posts, a 30 sec read that geript was mafia without explaining, rels was mafia but he was going to post about it later, and that yamato was town, which conflicted with your views at the time.
On August 31 2015 11:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2015 11:34 ritoky wrote: Oh goodie, something to tear to shreads. I'm listening. (Btw, that was a very entertaining case to read. There were a bunch of bits that I liked but we'll see how this plays out.)
On September 01 2015 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm aware I haven't really responded to JJ. Long story short is that I thought the bits on ritoky's actions after the day 1 lynch and possibly him avoiding rayn during lynch. I'd give more details but I'm tired and I don't know what else I'd elaborate on.
Technically he's still on my lynch list but I'm at a loss as to who else I should lynch, aside from possibly TT.
What made you decide that TT was a better lynch than ritoky yesterday? You said you liked my case and was going to see how it plays out, You then pointed out what you liked about the case.....but followed with "technically he's still on my lynch list" as if you wanted to vote elsewhere and list TT as the alternative. At one people you said you planned to sheep someone because you hadn't put the effort into finding the best lynch yourself. What made you sheep someone else rather than my case?
On September 03 2015 11:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote: No, damdred claimed on the 21st and that list was on the 25th. So he put damdred in his townlist, because...Bad?
The fuck lol.
Well the list is kinda irrelevant because he had to complete his upgrade by night two which had passed by that point.
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My upgrade condition was to claim vt really really early in the game. I took care of it simply because I was roleplaying who I got but dropped it pretty quickly. I got my upgrade and I was like "oh, neato." I think I said that a while ago but I'm not really entirely certain. As for rayn, I kinda liked that he came in and was immediately giving reads and doing stuff. It wasn't entirely objective but you know, people who don't annoy me tend to slip my by peripherals a lot more. Someone disagreeing with me doesn't usually make them mafia. PLUS, there were so many inactives at the time that it was kind of "eh" zeroing in on any of them aside from maybe yamato. I think I covered why Tt was a better lynch - ritoky responded somewhat adequately and I posted my Tt reasoning during my work hours. I wasn't really confident in it but whatever I suppose.
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I didn't even realize the upgrade thingy had passed. I basically auto completed mine and forgot about it. /shrug
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And as an aside, I'm still not certain that Tt is the best lynch. I'm sure my bias in killing him for being awful isn't really helping but you know.
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On September 03 2015 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I posted my Tt reasoning during my work hours. I wasn't really confident in it but whatever I suppose.
Mind quoting what you are referring to here?
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On September 02 2015 01:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2015 01:50 geript wrote: There's not a clear stylistic town v scum. Basically. iirc I don't recall ritoky's defense being that bad, plus I thought his bit on Tt made sense. The only thing I remember from Tt is him writing a rehashed bad case on me. It's not strong enough to warrant defending rit but that's where I'm at.
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On September 02 2015 21:18 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2015 17:45 Fidei86 wrote: @geript
Doesn't town TT use the power 100% as well? If he knows he's town and he *thinks* the other wagon is mafia, it is always the right play to fix the votes. Hell, even if he doesn't think ritoky is mafia, it's still the correct play, mechanically, from a town perspective. Since when am I faulting him for using his power?
I really don't like how Geript is going about this, like he's basically saying it doesn't matter if I'm town or not he just wants to lynch me kus of my ability.
Since people are still clearly unable to read what it is I was actually able to do I'll spell it out for everyone in my next post. however I will admit I lied just a bit.
The whole deal was one shot, I implied I could still use it today just in case I could draw a NK on me, but it was a long shot.
Also I can confirm Obi vanillized me, so even if you don't believe me about the One-shot I don't have any role anymore besides VT thanks to him.
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Ok here you go full rundown on my role and the soft claims I made.
On August 19 2015 13:18 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2015 12:50 Half the Sky wrote: Tictock probs Geript, could be scum.
Talks about ruxxar's points on meta, but doesn't discuss the rest of ruxxar's posting, which others had found scummy. Post to VA doesn't indicate thoughts on his opening. I will neither confirm nor deny this. Nor will I describe how absolutely terribly a wagon on me would derail.And meh It's early, I don't want to get all serious just yet.
On August 22 2015 08:43 Tictock wrote: Honestly atm, I'm tempted to believe all the restriction/role related stuff being claimed atm.
The only one that stands out...
Is ritoky's.
All of them are rather silly and makes their votes NAI, however rit's is the only one that is a pure hindrance without anything else attached. The other roles seem to be more situational/conditional and have some leeway.
My own role has a nifty little trick, but it's unlikely that I will get to use it since it's rather conditional.
So right now I'm thinking Rit is either lying to us about something or is mafia.
I think there was a few more little one liners dropping hints, but that's more or less how I was softing my ability.
The role itself is as follows: Once per game I am able to move the vote of someone voting for me to a player of my choosing, in addition my own vote counts twice when I use it.
Upgrade Condition (failed): Correctly townread 7 unflipped players in a single post before EoD2
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On September 01 2015 15:07 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 14:05 ritoky wrote: here's my last bit of shit until i come back to vote:
JJ - wrong, pushing wrong for bad and falsified reasons, voted at 59 on rayn wagon but found gif in time; is wrong, what is end game when i flip town if mafia? not trying to get read on anyone else, claimed MH aka don't lynch me bro role
OWS - poe from rayn wagon, vanillizing not alignment indicative role would lean toward it being mafia sided but meh, play is more town than others
TT - stone nothing, literal 0 memory of his play since rayn lynch, suddenly now under pressure = more active, claims no active ability role when almost eveyone has had, will not talk about role even though everyone claimed and has not justified it, PoE cuz fid prob town, damd 3p, ger town, me town.
Heh, yea ok your prob mafia. Scum reading me because I'm suddenly "more active" when being pushed and not wanting to discuss my role. Yet using the point's I've brought up against JJ against him at the same time. Though I do agree about the 1 shot nullify thing from obi being nai and thus not a great reason to think him more town, but ignores that Obi was telling people to avoid him because something bad would happen. Oddly enough I think a lot of people agree Obi could be scum here and he might very well be the best lynch. The reason I say I feel like his lynch isn't too informative is because there is less contention there. It's the mechanical easy play, (Everyone not on Rayn wagon - green checks = Obi) and it will still be there tomorrow so I'm inclined to leave him alone another day. @ JJ I'll respond to your stuff sometime in the morning
This was the point when I voted Rit, and was the point that tipped me from being unsure on him to thinking he had a real shot at being mafia.
Rit's whole play last cycle was really uninvolved past defending himself, he wasn't really pushing any real reads and the post I quoted from him here was the culmination of his reads. It looked like total shit to me, especially since I remembered Rit making a post N2 or D3 that was showing how I was probably confirmed town from how Rayn reacted to my post suggesting we lynch him. Overall it looked to me like Rit just didn't care who got lynched besides him based off this post though.
On September 02 2015 04:31 ritoky wrote: we lynching tt? cool he is on the list.
honestly don't care and haven't read anything since my last post. just gonna try to lynch mafia and block kp in the night since i am confirmed town.
So I was pretty sure around EoD that he was mafia and thus chose to blow him up over myself.
I'm not sure how it makes sense that I'm scum and decided to play out my ability like I did when it clearly did nothing for my towncred but throw it all away. But this is the conclusion you all are reaching kus Town has been really shit this game, especially geript.
At least Fidei had some sense, and JJ is actually playing the game trying to look at stuff and ask questions.
Thinking that I'm the last mafia and made the plays I did is about the worst line of thinking I've seen this game.
W/E though, lynch me if you want. I had my fun this game.
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This was the post from Rit I was referring to btw.
On August 24 2015 11:20 ritoky wrote:Vote on rayn aside I think TT is pretty much confirmed town going forward as well. Cuz of the following: Show nested quote +On August 24 2015 05:40 Tictock wrote:Hi I'm around, and kinda like the way things are moving atm. Going a bit back and forth on Rels, he's made a few posts like he's trying to see if he can push scum on anyone else to save himself but also a few posts with decent thoughts. Like earlier he listed me as part of his town circle but then recently says HtS is good at reading me scum so mighta been onto something. Similar soft push onto geript. + Show Spoiler +On August 20 2015 16:54 Rels wrote: hello
don't have time to play so will sheep my town reads ritoky, geript, HTS, TT, JJ, OWS On August 24 2015 01:12 Rels wrote: Read Hts filter.
Her townread was ritoky, breshke, fidei and TT. TT read is super important to me. Especially, she called TT scum early on as obs in HG I think; in a game when TT was a super good scum and won, so she definitely has a good read of him. If I got the game name right, it was TT first game as scum.
Like wos, scumread ksc tube and yamato, so good chance at least two maybe three mafia in here.
Wary of damdred and chezinu.
Feels a bit more like he's trying to find an alternate wagon to push than trying to identify scum atm. Fidei not being around all day till 2 hours before EoD is no bueno, but I'll at least wait to see what he's got to pass judgment. KSC is another possible lynch for me today mostly just because of this which he never responded too. On August 22 2015 08:56 Fecalfeast wrote: can we talk about why you're claim alignment cop with a green check in the first place? I'm kinda ok letting him live though just because he's probably gunna get NK'd if he's telling the truth. Chez is also an ok lynch since he has done nothing of value, tried to give/get reads, and the only thing of real note is his EoD1 stuff where he was basically broadcasting his role. Might mean more than I know idk anything about the person he rolled. Those are the people I think should be lynched today. Yamato could also be in this list but is pure policy, but hey he doesn't care about this game so I don't really care what happens to him. Show nested quote +On August 24 2015 05:42 ritoky wrote: I would also add ticktock now to the lynchables list. Show nested quote +On August 24 2015 05:52 Tictock wrote: How about we all switch to rayn?
Rels is being pushed too easily imo, plus he's doing stuff.
Rayn is suddenly sheeping geript who he said was mafia last night and hasn't given anything solid for his scumread on rels.
Fidei is also a good target imo both for dropping off the whole day, coming back 2 hours before EoD to write a case on the leading wagon, and also the meh town thing on HtS before she got NK'd. Also the stuff he was being scummed for D1. Show nested quote +On August 24 2015 05:53 Damdred wrote:On August 24 2015 05:52 Tictock wrote: How about we all switch to rayn?
Rels is being pushed too easily imo, plus he's doing stuff.
Rayn is suddenly sheeping geript who he said was mafia last night and hasn't given anything solid for his scumread on rels.
Fidei is also a good target imo both for dropping off the whole day, coming back 2 hours before EoD to write a case on the leading wagon, and also the meh town thing on HtS before she got NK'd. Also the stuff he was being scummed for D1. I like this post honestly. Show nested quote +On August 24 2015 05:54 ritoky wrote:On August 24 2015 05:52 Tictock wrote: How about we all switch to rayn?
Rels is being pushed too easily imo, plus he's doing stuff.
Rayn is suddenly sheeping geript who he said was mafia last night and hasn't given anything solid for his scumread on rels.
Fidei is also a good target imo both for dropping off the whole day, coming back 2 hours before EoD to write a case on the leading wagon, and also the meh town thing on HtS before she got NK'd. Also the stuff he was being scummed for D1. might take you off the would lynch list and back to a null list Show nested quote +On August 24 2015 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: That post is fucking terrible. Are you all high?
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Honestly if JJ is the last mafia here he can have the win for all I care right now.
At least he is putting in some effort.
Still like Obi is more likely though.
And no Obi I don't have a case, you've just been on the fence all game. I just want to see which side you land on when you get pushed off.
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I really want to call geript mafia for how much of a shit he is being, but between the green check from FF, the RB from Rit not stopping KP, and the save N1 from KSC's vig shot I just don't see how it's possible.
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I'm still confused what happened with FF's check on LT.
Obi's ability wouldn't have caused that, or at least FF would have know if Obi had used it on him.
I received a PM notifying me that my role has been downgraded to VT, so FF would have gotten the same PM if Obi had vanillized him.
I'm not sure if that's enough to convince me he's town though.
Ehh I'll act like unvoting him means something, it does to me at least.
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On September 01 2015 12:46 JudgeJudy wrote:My lack of thread presence at the deadline wasn't by choice I assure you. Unfortunately I'm at work at that time and to be honest, I'm lucky that I managed to sneak out of a meeting in time to even make it. Look at that on the flip side. I didn't need to show up at that point. I wasn't in the thread so as mafia I could have simply just never moved my vote and nobody would have been the wiser that I was actually around. As for the gif, that takes about 15 seconds. Just type "finger cross gif" in google and bam you've got one You say that rayn was pretty much for sure getting lynched, but remember the vote was 5-5 before the Rels unvote. With the rate that votes were coming in it was incredibly unclear who would have had the tiebreaker at that point. Tube showed up out of nowhere to try to hammer rels. Out of the five votes on Rels, four were from mafia. They were going all in to save rayn the pgo. My vote ensured that there was no tiebreaker because I hammered rayn. In what world does four mafia all vote one way, only to have the fifth mafia show up and ruin all their plans, not only killing off the pgo, but making the remaining players look absolutely terrible. While I couldn't have predicted Rels would swap to Yam, I could have reacted to it by following him. The vote was cast at the start of :59 so I had most of that minute to decide. I saw the yamato anti-nuke and the self vote, I did a quick count and realized my vote back to yam would lynch Rels who I thought was town so I stayed. It's kind of silly that you say I've been pretty towny and then pick out the towniest thing I've done all game as the one detractor.
This doesn't really add up when I think about it, it kinda bugged me yesterday but I couldn't quite place why.
The vote was 6-5 with Rayn in the lead right up till KSC switched at :59, that was when the vote got tied back up to 5-5.
I don't believe you had the time to consider all that you say you did, switch to Rayn, and post that Gif all in the span of 1 minuet.
It's true that as mafia you could have just sat by and let things play out which would have resulted in Rels killing himself while keeping your PGO alive, but there is no way for anyone to know that's how things would have gone.
I have to believe that you got out of a meeting, found a computer (phone posting is possible, but leaves even less time for posting the gif) saw KSC unvote (which still left rayn as the lynch) and considered all that you say you did while voting and posting that gif.
Seems much more likely that you saw Rayn was getting lynched and swapped EoD to get towncred.
The whole thing reminds me of what happened with Milo in Holy Guardians. He saw that town was lynching their only blue role that game and un-voted at :59 leaving him open to a possible modkill. It resulted in him getting insane towncred for the rest of the game.
Every time I look back at it I just see an opportunistic vote with 0 thread presence which just reeks of scum to me.
Idk it sounds like most people agree that after I flip that JJ is the next person to consider so I suppose if my paranoia here is justified then I don't have to worry so much about getting mislynched today.
Wish I had better reasons to townread Obi, then I could die happy today.
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Oh so I'm not putting effort in now? lol Get out.
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Ehhhh I may have jumped the gun on that statement. Hrm. Give me a minute.
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I don't know. I want to know what JJ thinks still.
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This gif isn't very relevant, but it's cute so it can stay.
On September 03 2015 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote: My upgrade condition was to claim vt really really early in the game. I took care of it simply because I was roleplaying who I got but dropped it pretty quickly. I got my upgrade and I was like "oh, neato."
So your upgrade was the part that vanillizes someone if they visit you that geript triggered and your role you started with was the targeted vanilla role, right?
On August 28 2015 23:28 JudgeJudy wrote:I've kinda had obi on my null-town list most of the game from when I compared his filter to the database filters earlier on. Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 11:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Too late, dickitude activated.
Get some. Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 10:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Are you fucking serious?
I've been saying the same shit on repeat for the past three days and you STILL have no idea why I voted Lt?
Are you actually mafia? Are you deliberately ignoring me? Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 11:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote: It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. It doesn't matter because that's not why I voted Lt. Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 10:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You've called me bad in just about every single game we've been in and you're acting like me getting pissed off is completely unfounded. Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 11:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I love how you think I'm pulling the wool over your eyes as I lay on my death bed. Show nested quote +On November 12 2014 12:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If I ever get tunneled like that again I'm just going to omgus as hard as I possibly can.
I won't even care if whoever is doing it flips town. Never again. At some point in the game, someone (I think it might have been you Rels) brought up how it seemed obi was mafia because the anger he displayed when people shared suspicion of him was way overboard. It was assumed that the anger must be fake since that is something mafia typically do when they are getting pushed. However, obi tends to sometimes get emotional when he is being pushed for reasons that he doesn't see as valid. For instance, here in Hearthstone Mafia (quotes above), then entire town is hammering him for a mislynch and he gets all worked up and he was town that game. That kinda seemed similar to what we saw here earlier. As mafia, the general trend that I found skimming through his games was that he typically has an attitude of "I can't be bothered to read the thread". In this game, there are a few instances where he seems like he is actually spending time to put thought into something or maybe going back to read something, though there are still a few quotes you can find where he simply says that he doesn't care. I wish I had a stronger read here, but I'm kind of on the fence. There are reasons that I see that point to mafia and reasons that could make him town. He is one of the more difficult players to read to begin with in my opinion.
Most of the stuff that I said about obi earlier seems to still apply here, with the exception of the point I made about the chezinu day one interaction and the tube nuke since at that point I thought chezinu was normal mafia, rather than mafia traitor. I've had him as a townish null read for the most of the game. Going into the cycle, I though both obi and TT looked mostly townie, but obviously one has to be mafia unless something went really wrong elsewhere.
There are a few spots that would match up with the detached mafia behavior that I brought up before. Last cycle in particular with the TT reasoning was so brief and the explanation that he was going to sheep because someone else knows better. When it comes to lynches, he has had very few strong opinions. I can't decide if that is towny uncertainty or not. At the same time, there are points where he is thinking about different scenarios that sound genuine that I've had pop into my head too.
Last night I spent all my time reading through obi, so today I'm going to go through TT and hopefully make up my mind afterwards.
On September 03 2015 23:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't know. I want to know what JJ thinks still.
Is there anything in particular that you are wondering about that I can answer or are you just waiting to see where I end up?
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A few replies to the more recent posts before I start the filter dive...
On September 03 2015 15:25 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2015 21:18 geript wrote:On September 02 2015 17:45 Fidei86 wrote: @geript
Doesn't town TT use the power 100% as well? If he knows he's town and he *thinks* the other wagon is mafia, it is always the right play to fix the votes. Hell, even if he doesn't think ritoky is mafia, it's still the correct play, mechanically, from a town perspective. Since when am I faulting him for using his power? I really don't like how Geript is going about this, like he's basically saying it doesn't matter if I'm town or not he just wants to lynch me kus of my ability.
Were you concluding anything here or just sharing frustrations? I don't really see a mafia geript scenario happening at any point.
On September 03 2015 18:03 Tictock wrote: I have to believe that you got out of a meeting, found a computer (phone posting is possible, but leaves even less time for posting the gif) saw KSC unvote (which still left rayn as the lynch) and considered all that you say you did while voting and posting that gif.
Yeah I mean there isn't a ton I can say here, other than yes I did do all that. I probably got out around 5-6 minutes to go, quickly skimmed the thread from where I had left off, scanned the voting thread, found a gif (didn't actually post it until I decided to go through with the swap), saw the tube and KSC votes and made my own vote because tube was almost certainly mafia with the late show up and I figured he was trying to hammer rels. It was a tight window and the vote count wasn't really clear, but that is what happened.
On September 03 2015 16:00 Tictock wrote: Honestly if JJ is the last mafia here he can have the win for all I care right now.
At least he is putting in some effort.
Still like Obi is more likely though.
And no Obi I don't have a case, you've just been on the fence all game. I just want to see which side you land on when you get pushed off.
Even if you don't have a case, would there be a spark notes version of what you are thinking?
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On August 20 2015 16:20 Tictock wrote: Obi is actually a slight town read for me currently, he has made a few pokes and prods. As scum I'd describe him as "just along for the ride", in this game I feel like he's a little engadged, sorta? Idk he is definitely someone to keep an eye on though.
On August 21 2015 04:28 Tictock wrote: Unfortunately my experience here has shown that often times players who just don't give a shit are just as often town as they are mafia.
You seem to rely on the same "effort tell" in conflicting fashions here. First you say obi tends to be a bit lazy as scum, but shortly later remark that lazy players are just as likely to be mafia. Is this specially a meta read on obi then? If so, would you say it applies to have over the course of this game?
On August 22 2015 07:43 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 03:34 Rels wrote: Hts I cannot see the mafia motivation behind it but you are not reading what I post Never said ruxxar roleplaying ls was a reason to vote him, but you assumed I did Never said you reconsidered, but you assumed I did This is a terrible post from Rels, seems to me like he's soft pushing scum on her. Honestly I dislike the whole interaction between Rels and HtS around the time of this post. Rels claimed to hard townread HtS in his first post and sheeped her vote everywich way. But in this interaction he is just poking at her and never tries to talk about her reads besides him. We def should be lynching Rels today. However!This looks fun too... ##vote: fecalfeast
What was the point of this vote on day two? You just finished explaining why Rels looked bad and then you vote for FF who you hadn't even mentioned after ritoky announces his RNG target. You explained why ritoky's RNG voting was likely fake, yet you jump on the same target? I'll admit the vote was short lived though, so maybe it was just a pressure vote or something?
On August 22 2015 07:39 Tictock wrote: Not sure what this nuke is, but atm it doesn't affect me so w/e
This was an odd response to the nuke considering tube was one of your town reads. Why didn't you question the shot choice here if you felt this way? Did you not find Shining suspicious for this action? You didn't seem to have a strong opinion of Shining one way or the other.
On August 24 2015 05:42 Tictock wrote: Didn't you have a scum read on geript?
Rayn is also a good lynch. Lots of excuses, promised explanations for his "geript and rels are mafia" entrance that never came.
Good post from TT here. I remember this one influenced me a fair bit when he pointed it out because rayn did indeed list geript as one of his mafia reads when he first replaced into the game.
On August 23 2015 05:29 Tictock wrote:I'll bite ##update ChezinuThat is all.
Why the blind trust with this one. From another post that you made it suggests that you didn't think he was town. You even voted him shortly after. What is the point of possibly activating some type of mafia ability here?
On August 24 2015 10:24 Tictock wrote: Everything I've seen from obi is consistent with his scum game.
This post on day two seems to conflict with the post you made on day one. Initially you had him as a slight town for the meta read that he was being engaged, but this suggests he has been consistently mafia. Was there anything in particular that changed between the initial post and this one that changed your mind about him?
I need to take a break for a bit. Probably going to take a nap. I'll finish up with the second half of your filter tonight.
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