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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Kaneh
Canada737 Posts
Did they perform well at IEM? yes. Did they get credit and hype? yes Then they shit the bed at MSI. They got credit, they got thier due saying hey, maybe they had a bad/unlucky tournament. But they still (rightfully) got knocked down a peg) Then they did nothing to prove they were still an elite team. They're 11-7. Losing games to bottom tier relegation teams. Fnatic have proven they are a world class team by not only rising to the occasion at MSI, but by then following it up with a perfect regular season. The excessive bias towards TSM is rediculous. its not korean overlords and all, credit is being given to Fnatic because they are consistently showing they're good. TSM is losing to T8 at this point. They have a lot to prove with such lackluster results. I think I'm getting trolled honestly. If this isn't Limping Goat and 2 alt accounts then the TSM delusion is baffling. | ||
Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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LimpingGoat
898 Posts
On July 30 2015 12:32 Kaneh wrote: uhh noone isn't judging TSM without regards to circumstance. Did they perform well at IEM? yes. Did they get credit and hype? yes Then they shit the bed at MSI. They got credit, they got thier due saying hey, maybe they had a bad/unlucky tournament. But they still (rightfully) got knocked down a peg) Then they did nothing to prove they were still an elite team. They're 11-7. Losing games to bottom tier relegation teams. Fnatic have proven they are a world class team by not only rising to the occasion at MSI, but by then following it up with a perfect regular season. The excessive bias towards TSM is rediculous. its not korean overlords and all, credit is being given to Fnatic because they are consistently showing they're good. TSM is losing to T8 at this point. They have a lot to prove with such lackluster results. I think I'm getting trolled honestly. If this isn't Limping Goat and 2 alt accounts then the TSM delusion is baffling. I hate to see so much energy go to waste but I wasn't even talking about TSM and circumstance is as it relates to individual players and how their skill is perceived by the community not the circumstance surrounding teams' results. | ||
Gahlo
United States34967 Posts
On July 30 2015 12:32 Kaneh wrote: uhh noone isn't judging TSM without regards to circumstance. Did they perform well at IEM? yes. Did they get credit and hype? yes Then they shit the bed at MSI. They got credit, they got thier due saying hey, maybe they had a bad/unlucky tournament. But they still (rightfully) got knocked down a peg) Then they did nothing to prove they were still an elite team. They're 11-7. Losing games to bottom tier relegation teams. Fnatic have proven they are a world class team by not only rising to the occasion at MSI, but by then following it up with a perfect regular season. The excessive bias towards TSM is rediculous. its not korean overlords and all, credit is being given to Fnatic because they are consistently showing they're good. TSM is losing to T8 at this point. They have a lot to prove with such lackluster results. I think I'm getting trolled honestly. If this isn't Limping Goat and 2 alt accounts then the TSM delusion is baffling. I mean, not to rain on the parade and all, but how is beating IWC reps and a collapsing TSM in group stage and then losing to Koreans "rising to the occasion"? | ||
God Killer v2
United States434 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On July 30 2015 12:32 Kaneh wrote: uhh noone isn't judging TSM without regards to circumstance. Did they perform well at IEM? yes. Did they get credit and hype? yes Then they shit the bed at MSI. They got credit, they got thier due saying hey, maybe they had a bad/unlucky tournament. But they still (rightfully) got knocked down a peg) Then they did nothing to prove they were still an elite team. They're 11-7. Losing games to bottom tier relegation teams. Fnatic have proven they are a world class team by not only rising to the occasion at MSI, but by then following it up with a perfect regular season. The excessive bias towards TSM is rediculous. its not korean overlords and all, credit is being given to Fnatic because they are consistently showing they're good. TSM is losing to T8 at this point. They have a lot to prove with such lackluster results. I think I'm getting trolled honestly. If this isn't Limping Goat and 2 alt accounts then the TSM delusion is baffling. For starters, TSM has second best shot at going to Worlds after TL; in order for TSM to not go to Worlds, you'd need a result like TL finishing in 2nd place and then TSM losing the Bo5 series for the NA regional qualifier finals. It COULD happen, but TSM is probably going to Worlds, regardless of all the doubts about their current form. If TSM does go to Worlds, then they have plenty of time to shape up; Worlds doesn't start until October. So even if all the doom and gloom about TSM's form is well grounded, they'll have plenty of time to try and fix their problems, and most everyone here has a high opinion of Reginald's competence as an owner. I'm one of the many who is critical of TSM's current strength, but with 90 championship points in the bank from the Spring Split, I also find that TSM is the team that can weather a temporary slump most comfortably. TSM has until October to figure out whether their current slump is the exception or the norm. | ||
DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On July 30 2015 14:32 God Killer v2 wrote: Honestly, as bad as TSM is, the only thing FNC proved at MSI is that they're better than TSM. Ahq is the team that rose to the occasion rather than fnatic. Of course, the reason for fnatic's praise becomes clear if you then look at their regular season but just going off of Msi ahq is the only team that looked worth anything other than skt and edg Fnatic brought SKT to game 5, Febi managed to solokill Faker. Those are great achievements considering that the team was still relatively new in comparison to the competition. Ahq did very well too, but it was overshadowed here because most people watch Western teams and support them more. If TSM does go to Worlds, then they have plenty of time to shape up; Worlds doesn't start until October. So even if all the doom and gloom about TSM's form is well grounded, they'll have plenty of time to try and fix their problems, and most everyone here has a high opinion of Reginald's competence as an owner. TSM's problems are similar to CLG, in that their arguably biggest weak points (relying heavily on Bjergsen, Dyrus getting camped and possibly feeding, Turtle's yolo positioning) don't seem to go away with time. They'll probably be stronger without a doubt going into Worlds, but even if they solve those problems they still wouldn't be a contender for top 4: there are a ton of teams out there that will simply outplay them because they are flexible, from Fnatic to Ahq to everyone coming from KR and CN. Santorin is better than Dandy and Spirit This also implies that Aluka is second only to Dyrus. ... | ||
Caiada
United States3052 Posts
Ahq beats Fnatic once and everybody assumes they're much better. It's... confusing, to say the least. I like to have a little more support than one group stage game. | ||
Gahlo
United States34967 Posts
On July 30 2015 22:27 Caiada wrote: Just assume that every single-sentence post I make is followed by a twitch meme. Except this one. Ahq beats Fnatic once and everybody assumes they're much better. It's... confusing, to say the least. I like to have a little more support than one group stage game. Well, SKT has been roflstomping Korea so hard they don't even want to scrim SKT anymore. So SKT is scrimming with a few Chinese and LMS teams, including AHQ. I think. It's been a while since I looked at that story. | ||
oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On July 30 2015 23:35 Gahlo wrote: Well, SKT has been roflstomping Korea so hard they don't even want to scrim SKT anymore. So SKT is scrimming with a few Chinese and LMS teams, including AHQ. I think. It's been a while since I looked at that story. EDG wasn't scrimming teams who couldn't withstand more than 30~ minutes games last split, so SKT T1 at least has someone to scrim with. But on ahQ's topic, they're scrimming EDG consistently, even if losing, so it's pretty safe conclusion that ahQ is stronger than people expect and stronger than they were at MSI because roster had more time to play together. They might not beat EDG/LGD/SKT T1 but with good brackets or ahQ in first bucket instead of NA LCS champion leads to very good chance of semifinals appearance. | ||
DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On July 31 2015 00:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: EDG wasn't scrimming teams who couldn't withstand more than 30~ minutes games last split, so SKT T1 at least has someone to scrim with. But on ahQ's toping, they're scrimming EDG consistently, even if losing, so it's pretty safe conclusion that ahQ is stronger than people expect and stronger than they were at MSI because roster had more time to play together. They might not beat EDG/LGD/SKT T1 but with good brackets or ahQ in first bucket instead of NA LCS champion leads to very good chance of semifinals appearance. Do you think LGD will recover for worlds? On paper their team is very, very strong, but I wouldn't put them in a group with SKT and EDG yet. Also, I'm rooting for OMG to pick it up because Uzi (if they bench him I hope they fail to qualify), and iG because they've got an awesome roster. | ||
Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
For OMG afaik it's north from here, I don't expect them to make worlds unless cool has the run of a lifetime or xiyang learns a top laner that isn't maokai but they seem better for having north and iG I don't know. Kid's been emo, kakao's been even more kakao than usual and all they do now is run vayne comps who knows what's happening in the iG house anymore. | ||
Gahlo
United States34967 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On July 31 2015 02:25 DarkCore wrote: Do you think LGD will recover for worlds? On paper their team is very, very strong, but I wouldn't put them in a group with SKT and EDG yet. Also, I'm rooting for OMG to pick it up because Uzi (if they bench him I hope they fail to qualify), and iG because they've got an awesome roster. I will be very surprised if LGD isn't top-4 at Worlds if not top-2, if Quan doesn't play. Even if Acorn steps away to coach while BSYY is gone, LGD has one of best possible triple carry threats in competitive LoL right now and leader who can take jungler's hand and run around map. Especially in current meta where support/jungle basically win games singlehandedly. On July 31 2015 02:36 Gahlo wrote: The most annoying thing, to me, is that Kakao said the main reason he left Korea was because China was an easier road to worlds. Now he's probably not even going to make it because China is stacked and his old team has a decent shot with an ADC playing jungle this year. This KT with Kakao and Rookie would wreck a lot of Korea and probably be better than SKT. KaKAO is main reason iG won't be at Worlds, that's most impressive thing. | ||
Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19553 Posts
On July 31 2015 02:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: I will be very surprised if LGD isn't top-4 at Worlds if not top-2, if Quan doesn't play. Even if Acorn steps away to coach while BSYY is gone, LGD has one of best possible triple carry threats in competitive LoL right now and leader who can take jungler's hand and run around map. Especially in current meta where support/jungle basically win games singlehandedly. KaKAO is main reason iG won't be at Worlds, that's most impressive thing. KaKAO is a sad story. I thought he was playing quite well in spring, but he has dropped off. He just doesn't seem to be reading enemy junglers the way that made him so scary. | ||
thejuju
United States413 Posts
That being said, iG at full strength is a scary team, easily top 5. | ||
Trysteenn
United States3 Posts
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