EPTso. let's hear it.
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
so. let's hear it. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On July 25 2015 07:34 n00bKing wrote: I don't remember Damdred ever addressing this, so I'll bump it here: I never did address this, probably just forgot along the way. Anyway, bit different now obviously with the game progressing. But a) basically at that point B) you get a town read, you get a town read, everyone gets a town read. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
Yeah, I didn't. disformation said only 4 of 13 players had posted. I corrected him, because 6 of 13 players had posted. The players he was missing were you and Barakos. You and Barakos had each made only 1 throwaway post, which explains why it was so easy for disformation to miss them. I never made a big deal over those throwaway posts, because IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, and you're the only one who wants to keep talking about it. I then made the joke that if we want to lynch all liars, we can start with disformation because of his poor count. So Barakos responded to my joke by making a joke that I was top town because I know how to count. Everything make sense now? | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 25 2015 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: and by that i mean the fact you call it a throwaway post makes it alignment indicative for you. WRONG. I never said there was anything alignment-indicative about the post from you, the one from Barakos, the one from disformation, or the one from Damdred. If you try to decide that you understand my thought processes better than *I* understand my thought processes, you're going to come up with the short end every time. I promise. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 25 2015 07:37 Damdred wrote: I never did address this, probably just forgot along the way. Anyway, bit different now obviously with the game progressing. But a) basically at that point B) you get a town read, you get a town read, everyone gets a town read. Okay, thanks. I didn't know that ruXxar had a tendency to town-read everyone, in his scum games. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On July 25 2015 07:26 n00bKing wrote: This is extremely faulty reasoning, if you're a Town player. If you are Town, and if you think Rels is Town, then the only reason for you to not care that I have my vote on him is if you think I am Scum. If you think all 3 of us are Town, you have a responsibility to help me see why Rels is not the right lynch today. Because every Town vote that is on a Town player gives Scum more control over the Noose. My vote being on a Town player would increase the odds of a mislynch, even if Rels is not the target of that mislynch. I am a reasonable, rational person. If you think there are reasons to townread Rels, let's talk about them. This doesn't argue with anything I've said. Correct, my filter offers no reasons why Barakos isn't Mafia. However, my filter DOES offer reasons why Rels IS Mafia. No one can read my posts about Rels and then ask me "How come you're voting Rels over Barakos or Sulfurus?" Your case on rels is based on a faulty premise. He already explained what he meant by prepared statement, yet you get stuck in details if his original accusation instead of evolving reads from the post where he clarifies his post. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On July 25 2015 07:48 Damdred wrote: He has an easier time giving town reads early generally. This is a correct assessment of my meta so fame. I give more town reads as scum, but my reads are more rigid as town imo. | ||
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Sulfurus
United States166 Posts
On July 25 2015 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: i was looking for this.  tbh i assumed this is what you were after (didn't know and too hard to check on phone, when i got home i forgot). The mind-meld is real | ||
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Sulfurus
United States166 Posts
Here are the towns in order of approximate townyness Towns
And ofcourse lynches in order of aproximate scumyness Lynches
I apologize to disformation for putting your name on the list; I think your probably town but I needed a sixth name. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On July 25 2015 07:52 Sulfurus wrote: I believe I have 'auto' now since in a 13 player game we get 6 lynches (not counting a mafa nk + vigi) and I found at least 7 town including myself. Here are the towns in order of approximate townyness Towns
And ofcourse lynches in order of aproximate scumyness Lynches
I apologize to disformation for putting your name on the list; I think your probably town but I needed a sixth name. Why is flexes more town than disformation?!! | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 25 2015 07:48 ruXxar wrote: Your case on rels is based on a faulty premise. He already explained what he meant by prepared statement, yet you get stuck in details if his original accusation instead of evolving reads from the post where he clarifies his post. I already explained why his explanation of what he meant by prepared statement is NOT believable. He wants us to believe that he used it to mean something other than how the term is actually used in these games. "Prepared statement" means before the Phase begins. His explanation looks like a retcon, to cover his tracks, after it has been pointed out that what he initially said cannot be true. I think his explanation looks like a LIE. His NEW explanation actually still does not make any sense (which is no surprise to me, because it probably isn't what he originally meant). Rels now says that the comments were thought about a lot before they were posted, rather than meaning that they were prepared before the game began. I call bullshit again. There is nothing about those comments that indicate they were thought about a lot before being posted, as opposed to being off-the-cuff reactions in the moment. When I point this out, Rels tries to tell me that he can understand why the comments being thought about a lot before they were posted isn't scum-indicative for me, even though it is for him. When that's not even what I said in the first place. He has taken my words and twisted them into something else, before dismissing an argument I didn't actually make. When I point out that the post in question didn't actually contain a VT claim, he says my point is "useless" and tries to discuss it no further. Only after follow-up pressure from rayn does Rels eventually decide that when he said VT, he actually meant "Townie." Another retcon job, when someone has again shown that his initial post doesn't make any sense. And here again, the new explanation doesn't make any better sense than the first one, because if he actually meant "Townie" instead of "VT" then why did he even mention it at all? He thought it would be worthwhile to take time pointing out to everyone that someone had a "prepared post" in which they said they were Town? Really? You're swallowing that, ruXxar? | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
If the mind-meld between rayn and myself is real, then why do you have one of us on your Town reads and one on your Scum reads? lol | ||
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Sulfurus
United States166 Posts
Just look at this post On July 24 2015 10:11 Flexes wrote: hi everybody. i'm new so i really don't know what to say and what conclusions to draw. i don't know why ruxxor is so defensive about his "posting style" when the accusation against him is so baseless. i still think you cannot tell either way though. moosydoosy being the first one to point fingers to gain information gives him a slight townlean for me. He literally sets himself up to not have to give any reads but gives reads anyways as a new player who, as mafia, has every reason to stay as silent as possible while getting used to the thread and once he did get comfortable he posted this gem On July 25 2015 05:39 Flexes wrote: i am here, but i don't wanna post stupid shit that clutters up the thread. i'm writing up my thoughts on all players right now and will post my reads when finished. Instead of acting out of paranoia of getting scum read he is going out of his way to make his posts as high quality as possible. Now compare this with the way Nocturne has been playing... | ||
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Sulfurus
United States166 Posts
On July 25 2015 08:07 n00bKing wrote: If the mind-meld between rayn and myself is real, then why do you have one of us on your Town reads and one on your Scum reads? lol The mind-meld is between me and rayn FailFish | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 25 2015 08:46 Sulfurus wrote: The mind-meld is between me and rayn FailFish ...what? That doesn't make any sense. He wasn't talking to you, he was talking to me. And saying that he thought he had understood what I had been after, when making my post where I asked you what you meant. (A question you still have not answered.) | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On July 25 2015 03:15 ruXxar wrote: Either way I don't want inbetween lines. I want an explicit list of reads. Yeh cuz u suck. Will continue reading from this post. Looks like a lot of action went down or ruXxar spammed a lot during the time I was away. I'll do the list after I'm finished reading since others besides ruXxar asked for it. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On July 25 2015 07:52 Sulfurus wrote: I believe I have 'auto' now since in a 13 player game we get 6 lynches (not counting a mafa nk + vigi) and I found at least 7 town including myself. Here are the towns in order of approximate townyness Towns
And ofcourse lynches in order of aproximate scumyness Lynches
I apologize to disformation for putting your name on the list; I think your probably town but I needed a sixth name. I am staring at this post for quite some time now. No idea where to begin with this... 1) I don't think this is how auto works... auto is when you have overwhelming evidence on one or more scum members. I don't see overwhelming evidence anywhere. Auto also suggests you are done putting any effort into this game... 2) I am quite positive that mafia will at least try to shoot someone every night. So I have no idea how you can work under the assumption of having 6 lynches. 3) At least 7 town reads? Do you have 7 town reads, or do you have 8 town reads, or do you have 9 town reads? 4) Super setup for stuff like "oh I would rather lynch #1 of my scum list, but I can settle for #5, too". Which is pretty scummy... 5) General lack of explanation for anything. 6) Total wrong mindset for town? This reads to me as "instead of finding and lynching the most scummiest person around, I'll just do a huge PoE list (which has half of the players on it) and be content to lynch to that. I don't even... oO | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
"Look I am doing stuff, please no lyncherinos!"? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On July 25 2015 03:55 ruXxar wrote: zzzz, cut the crapperonies. GIve us some reads in plain text. LOL like you should be talking ruXxar. All right all right I'll stop bashing the poor kid. Just can't help seeing these little posts. Will finish reading in silence and post afterwards. | ||
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