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On May 14 2015 02:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Damdred is there because of the BM shot. He seems townie enough, but shooting someone like BM with no flip was terribad. I get that he had to die, but I wanted him to flip and I think others wanted him to flip too. Damdred removed that possibility.
As townie as he sounds, he's capable of sounding townie as mafia. I'm just being cautious.
Yeah, but there really is no mafia motivation for it that I can see. I would have also prefered having BM flipped but due to unfortunate circumstances that wasn't possible ...
If BM was town - why shoot him as mafia dayvig? He is a mislynch waiting to happen. If he is mafia (which is more likely in my eyes) and even pardoned - why the fuck shoot him? I mean damdred is not confirmed town but this should not be a reason to doubt him in my opinion.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
2/15
Thanks for taking the time to respond!
On May 13 2015 11:16 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 10:48 Blazinghand wrote:1/15 (including the generous donation from stutters) On May 13 2015 09:38 Stutters695 wrote:
##give 10 posts Blazinghand
I plan on getting some stuff out tomorrow, don't waste those plz BH. Thanks, Stutters. I'll make sure to meet and/or exceed your expectations. I won't specifically mention any pms the host may or may not have sent me, but if *I* were hosting this game, I think the correct way to deal with Blazinghand's overposting would be to allow him 5 posts during N1 and 10 posts during the combined D2+N2 cycle. I'd be pretty surprised if Hapahauli diverged from this gold standard. Not saying anything about any PMs I may or may not have recieved from mods though, since that would be against the rules, just saying that I'd expect someone in my position to be allowed 5 posts N1 and 10 posts during D2+N2, and so some donations (AFTER THE START OF D2) would potentially be useful. Since I have 14 posts for tonight, I'll make sure to stay focused. I definitely pushed it with the amount of posts near the end of D1 there but it prevented me from getting lynched. Sadly, I didn't have the thread influence to make the yamato lynch happen. My initial plans for the N1 involve talking about Yamato a bit, and investigating a couple other scumreads. Probably not rsoultin, since I think it's not important to consider her unless she lives to D2 (she's a very very popular N1 shot since she's universally townread in very game). Then it would be time to talk about her. I'd be interested to hear a bit more from damdy about the his thoughts on what happened with BM and the nature of his Policy Shot. Although I appreciate stopping BM dominating the D1 discussion, what happened to the follow-up on LS and Xat? It's not the strangest thing you voted me (given that you didn't like the fact that I hesitated for like 30 seconds in thread to save Marv), but it *is* strange that you completely fell off on those reads. Maybe they just fell to the back of your mind, but I'ld like to hear what you have to say about them now, Damdred. KSC, I'd like to talk to you about the evolution of your reads on Rsoultin. Early on, you chat with her a bit, then you express some skepticism about her play early on http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24234567 and wonder why people are so quick to (link) call her town. In your consolidated reads post (link)you judge a lot of people on their interactions with her then say she gives you brain cancer. you then adds Rsoultin to your "town cricle and Trfel, to his enormous credit, calls your out on it. KSC, your response is (link): rsoultin - I have trouble reading her posts , it seemed like she was reluctant to label anyone town or mafia hence my questioning, my town read comes from the fact that if you put the effort to decipher the posts she does give reads and the fact that I remember her as a standout from n0 makes her town to me. which does not actually jive with n0, unless by standout you mean "person who made lots of posts.". The fact that she made lots of posts isn't new information at this point, so I'm wondering if you could elaborate a little on your thought process back there, or was it just you decided that peopel who posted extensively N0 were town, and hadn't thought of that until later on? Your followup is to point out some posts by rso (link) then say (link) that her reasons for calling mafia are bad becasue she called people town. Now here's the thing, I think rsoultin's reason for her 180 on Xata, which is, and I quote, nd i dunnae xata just...eh. lol he can fool me easily. carol proved that. and i find it really difficult to believe he's already forgotten carol -_- and vivax going after him hard, cause i remember it quite clearly is probably one of the least convincing cases I've ever read. In fact, you definitely read this cause you bolded the text next to it. rsoultin then tells you about this reason, and your rsponse is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24246204
ok, i just didn't think "eh he fooled me before" was a good enough reason to do a 180 on a read.
i'm sorry
Rsoultin calls you out on it and phrases the read more forcefully (if she did this before then I could see it be a little more convicning and you have this interaction (link) in which rsoultin basically calls you bad and your response is to apologise and make excuses, and remember, this is after you say rsoultin's like, in your town circle or whatever, then you say this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24246281On May 12 2015 11:31 KelsierSC wrote:On May 12 2015 11:30 rsoultin wrote:
fine. so maybe the problem is that you apologizing to me looked to me like you were retracting your read. am i scum or aren't i, ksc? yeh mate and then this: On May 12 2015 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:On May 12 2015 11:35 rsoultin wrote:
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i'm going to assume that was meant for me and not ksc -_-
not sure why you seem so damn timid around me, ksc, if you really think i'm scum. i really don't think i'm that scary a person. can tell you one thing, though...that half-assed bullshit isn't going to get me lynched any more than onegu's non-points lol >< okey dokey i don't really care about lynching you today. So now I'm confused. Are you null/confusedreading rsoultin, and don't know why people were townreading her (as earlier)? are you townreading her as part of your town circle? or are you scumreading her? or do you not want to lycnh her? Obviously there's a progression here, but I'm very very confused about what you are thinking near the end here. You then call Vivax's read on rso confusing (link) or confused, then vote Xat. Eventually, you end up here: On May 13 2015 09:51 KelsierSC wrote:
i'm not sure how to evaluate RS actions EOD as apparently she had some personal vendetta to get bh lynched . not too happy if that is the case.
I personally think there's quite a lot fish about RS (with the unusual amount of emotes, the super dense and difficult to read posts, and the "joking" vendetta that became serious during D1). I'd like to hear more about RS from you, KSC. IT seems like you're confused about your read WRT EoD stuff, but I'd also like to hear about what you were thinking as time went by during N0/D1 as well, when you have the chance. sure I can talk about that. N0 I didn't understand the town reads she got because of her style and it felt like she wasn't committing to any reads so she was hard to evaluate for me. when we got into day phase I wanted to evaluate her. I read what she had put down and i thought going through it that she was making reads it just took a bit of time to fish them out so I had her as town. I also based it on other people calling her town and at the time it was just how I felt about her. She was indeed a standout in my mind from the N0 because she had made a significant contribution in terms of posts. as for the interaction about her xatalos read, I think the 180 she did was absolutely terrible but sarcasm doesn't really come across well over the internet. the "i'm sorry" was a sarcastic response , basically continuing to state that her read switch was terrible. I made it clear with my follow up that I hadn't dropped any reads but that arguing that particular point wasn't going anywhere because she would just insult me or my reading and she is rather unpleasant to talk to. Maybe I could have committed more to that exchange but it was late , i'd been drinking , didn't really feel like carrying on. to clear up confusion at that point I was scum reading her but I was also aware I was drunk and didn't feel like pushing it along. I did say "i haven't dropped any reads" I still have a scum read of rs at this point but I haven't really read into what she did EOD, I need to see if her actions were motivated, as you pointed out, by a pathetic personal vendetta, or if she truly thought you were scum and had a good case. as for ending up on xatalos, he was my strongest scumread at the EOD , I made a case on him and pushed him for a long time. around EOD it was clear that no one wanted xatalos anymore and with the choice being you or vivax I decided that I thought you were town, i liked the post trefl and HTS made on vivax and other people on my town list had also voted him. I didn't want to waste my vote. hopefully that clears things up
Hmm, okay, I see how your read progression worked. Thanks again for taking time to outline this. I haven't had a chance to seriously filter dive rsoultin yet, but it seems like a lot of her posts are really hard to read, even though she's giving solid reads. Her fake joking or non-fake non-joke (still not clear what's going on there) generally rings hollow for me, so I'm tentatively going to say I think she's scum. I'll take some time to read her reactions to the BM nuke situation in detail and see if what she said and thought makes sense. Let me know when you've had a chance to analyze her EoD stuff. The fact that something seems very off about her play to me makes me like, really suspicious of her. I'll have to figure out a way to write a case that everyone can get behind, but I'll make it happen. I promise on my honor as a Spaniard.
I view there to be like, 4 or 5 pivotal events throughout D1 that could potentially have generated a lot of reads. BM's 2 nuke launches, the 2 anti-nukes, the pardon, the dayvig, and the wagon developments on Vivax, Xat, and myself (as well ast he EoD shenannigans). I'm going to be using that structure for the basis of my analysis of what people think.
Batsnacks
Hey Batsnacks, hope you're doing well. I'd like to chat with you about your (link) scumread on Sandro. As far as I can tell, this is your only scumread this game, and in fact that post represents the entirety of your contribution. That, plus the weird poem thing makes me think you've got some kind of Blue role, but nothing actually FITS you knowing Sandro is town or scum during D1. During N0 blue roles get the pm "town" so there's no actions. During D1, msot roles, especially inbestigative ones, don't have actions. For example, I could see you being a Coronor, who can "Can check the alignment and/or roles of unflipped players." according to the OP, but again, it's D1. When I was scumreading Sandro, I didn't think much of it, but since Sandro came through and actually did research about my meta, I don't really think it's possible that Sandro can be scum. He's gotta be town. So now I'm concerned about your read. What's the deal, man?'
posts like this:
On May 14 2015 01:43 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 14 2015 01:40 batsnacks wrote:
No one explain it to him. I'll do it if necessary. By all means! Nothing else you're doing is convincing me of anything! If you're town I strongly suggest you focus on something else for a while... At the very least until you can vote me 
are obviously softclaiming Blue, except that no Blue would ACTUALLY do this. What's the deal, bats? You have the capacity in you for good play, and you must know as well as I do that with me and Palm protecting Sandro there's no way he's getting lynched. You'll have to convince us with an actual case, rather than strange hints, or this guy you think is scum (assuming you're not lying) won't get lynched.
Fill me in brometheus?
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On May 14 2015 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 02:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Damdred is there because of the BM shot. He seems townie enough, but shooting someone like BM with no flip was terribad. I get that he had to die, but I wanted him to flip and I think others wanted him to flip too. Damdred removed that possibility.
As townie as he sounds, he's capable of sounding townie as mafia. I'm just being cautious. Yeah, but there really is no mafia motivation for it that I can see. I would have also prefered having BM flipped but due to unfortunate circumstances that wasn't possible ... If BM was town - why shoot him as mafia dayvig? He is a mislynch waiting to happen. If he is mafia (which is more likely in my eyes) and even pardoned - why the fuck shoot him? I mean damdred is not confirmed town but this should not be a reason to doubt him in my opinion.
Well we can agree to disagree about one of my unsure reads.
What do you think about my mafia reads? You mentioned moving BH down to my mafia list, and disagree with my Damdred (non)read, what about my mafia reads?
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On May 14 2015 02:53 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:On May 14 2015 02:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Damdred is there because of the BM shot. He seems townie enough, but shooting someone like BM with no flip was terribad. I get that he had to die, but I wanted him to flip and I think others wanted him to flip too. Damdred removed that possibility.
As townie as he sounds, he's capable of sounding townie as mafia. I'm just being cautious. Yeah, but there really is no mafia motivation for it that I can see. I would have also prefered having BM flipped but due to unfortunate circumstances that wasn't possible ... If BM was town - why shoot him as mafia dayvig? He is a mislynch waiting to happen. If he is mafia (which is more likely in my eyes) and even pardoned - why the fuck shoot him? I mean damdred is not confirmed town but this should not be a reason to doubt him in my opinion. Well we can agree to disagree about one of my unsure reads. What do you think about my mafia reads? You mentioned moving BH down to my mafia list, and disagree with my Damdred (non)read, what about my mafia reads?
Well, I also said that I would remove bats.
If I heavily disagreed with any of the rest I would have said so. RoL would probably go to idk for me but I have next to no experience with him. I think YOSO (?) was pretty much the only game I played with him and he was a useless lurker as town.
The rest I agree with. Less sure about palmar because he is just openly trolling but his sandro stuff makes 0 fucking sense.
No reason to townread any of oats, Onegu and Xatalos.
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@BH would you have voted Sandro if not for survival purposes?
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Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point.
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## Give Half the Sky 2 posts
I cant give anymore out.
But really how can you say I havent pushed LS much, besides rsoul he is the only other push I have made. Because I didnt vote him? I voted another one of my scum reads...
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On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point.
79/79
Someone bothered to read it! \o/ Blazinghand and to a lesser extent VE clearly didn't, but that's okay. I realize that um...reading is like, hard. And stuff. Apparently. Or I'm just boring when I'm not giving people head cancer.
Why don't you actually give some reads? I'm bored with your wrong scumread on me, and I already have LS as my weakest townlean for practically the same reason you just cited, so that's boring, too.
Do you have anything new? Lots of stuff happened, but you're not talking about any of it? Do you have any comments about the content of the novel I wrote regarding Marvellosity and Blazinghand, or are you just going to pick a random sentence to demonstrate that you read it?
I'm willing to keep trying to figure out your alignment. I'm not convinced that you're trying to figure out mine at all. You may be a tunneled town (you've done it with me before) but if so...can you pretend for a moment that you might be wrong and discuss this game with me so that if I'm wrong I can move on to real scum?
Please and thank you!
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On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point.
I had a strong scumread on Vivax but then I reconsidered later because he started to look very townie and tried to switch Xata since I liked KSC's case on him and other people also thought he was scum and so I tried to change my vote to Xata but for some reason mods didn't see my vote switch at all....... I still think Xata is scum along with Oats, and BH. Again you keep misrepresenting me on my meta because I did try to look for scum as both alignments..................................................................................................................... I mean check out JOAT and Guardians when I was scum............................
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##Give rsoultin 5 posts She is out of posts and would rather have her talk more since I think she is town.
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On May 14 2015 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point. I had a strong scumread on Vivax but then I reconsidered later because he started to look very townie and tried to switch Xata since I liked KSC's case on him and other people also thought he was scum and so I tried to change my vote to Xata but for some reason mods didn't see my vote switch at all....... I still think Xata is scum along with Oats, and BH. Again you keep misrepresenting me on my meta because I did try to look for scum as both alignments..................................................................................................................... I mean check out JOAT and Guardians when I was scum............................
Ok no meta. You aren't looking for scum and making cases, you are only commenting on the thread direction. Therefore you are only trying to blend in. Therefore you are scum.
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On May 14 2015 03:13 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point. 79/79 Someone bothered to read it! \o/ Blazinghand and to a lesser extent VE clearly didn't, but that's okay. I realize that um...reading is like, hard. And stuff. Apparently. Or I'm just boring when I'm not giving people head cancer. Why don't you actually give some reads? I'm bored with your wrong scumread on me, and I already have LS as my weakest townlean for practically the same reason you just cited, so that's boring, too. Do you have anything new? Lots of stuff happened, but you're not talking about any of it? Do you have any comments about the content of the novel I wrote regarding Marvellosity and Blazinghand, or are you just going to pick a random sentence to demonstrate that you read it? I'm willing to keep trying to figure out your alignment. I'm not convinced that you're trying to figure out mine at all. You may be a tunneled town (you've done it with me before) but if so...can you pretend for a moment that you might be wrong and discuss this game with me so that if I'm wrong I can move on to real scum? Please and thank you!
You dont know how I play yet I focus in on what I find interesting. Right now thats you and LS. LS looks much worse then you now though.
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On May 14 2015 03:35 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point. I had a strong scumread on Vivax but then I reconsidered later because he started to look very townie and tried to switch Xata since I liked KSC's case on him and other people also thought he was scum and so I tried to change my vote to Xata but for some reason mods didn't see my vote switch at all....... I still think Xata is scum along with Oats, and BH. Again you keep misrepresenting me on my meta because I did try to look for scum as both alignments..................................................................................................................... I mean check out JOAT and Guardians when I was scum............................ Ok no meta. You aren't looking for scum and making cases, you are only commenting on the thread direction. Therefore you are only trying to blend in. Therefore you are scum.
Why look if I think I found scum?
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On May 14 2015 03:37 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 03:13 rsoultin wrote:On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point. 79/79 Someone bothered to read it! \o/ Blazinghand and to a lesser extent VE clearly didn't, but that's okay. I realize that um...reading is like, hard. And stuff. Apparently. Or I'm just boring when I'm not giving people head cancer. Why don't you actually give some reads? I'm bored with your wrong scumread on me, and I already have LS as my weakest townlean for practically the same reason you just cited, so that's boring, too. Do you have anything new? Lots of stuff happened, but you're not talking about any of it? Do you have any comments about the content of the novel I wrote regarding Marvellosity and Blazinghand, or are you just going to pick a random sentence to demonstrate that you read it? I'm willing to keep trying to figure out your alignment. I'm not convinced that you're trying to figure out mine at all. You may be a tunneled town (you've done it with me before) but if so...can you pretend for a moment that you might be wrong and discuss this game with me so that if I'm wrong I can move on to real scum? Please and thank you! You dont know how I play yet I focus in on what I find interesting. Right now thats you and LS. LS looks much worse then you now though.
80/84
Yeah, I don't even understand your scumread on me, frankly xP It's like you decided at some point early on in the game that I was scum come hell or high water lol. Which is a little...okay, this isn't a nice word, but retarded, frankly. I know you suck at reading me sometimes, but this game you're taking it to an extreme.
Onegu, dude, you can't just ignore 80% of the game and expect me to townread you for it when you claim to be actually trying. The majority of the world actually, you know, pays attention to what is going on and has opinions on it. If this is your genuine serious way of playing, you should probably consider approaching the game differently or sticking to the just playing around, because I can't find a reason to townread you beyond...well maybe he could actually be this bad -_- Which is not the way that I like to approach reads.
Don't let me stop you from poking at LS, though. If you actually have questions for me I'd appreciate if you asked them, yeah?
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I think I'm about at the post limit so not gonna post much tonight. I guess I should focus more on bigger posts and reading with these restrictions instead of posting whatever I like usual.
Thanks for not lynching me yesterday. It was too bad that I had to wake up so early this morning, but life is life. In the next days I should have plenty more time and also capability to stay awake for deadlines.
I actually kind of liked BH's recent posts, especially the one where he talked about rsoultin's read changes. It matched well with my own thoughts... So I'm considering just waiting and seeing more from him for now.
Right now I'd most want to lynch LS. His attitude is just completely non-town any way I look at it. I may have to reconsider Onegu for a moment after looking at this exchange between LS and Onegu:
On May 14 2015 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 03:35 Onegu wrote:On May 14 2015 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point. I had a strong scumread on Vivax but then I reconsidered later because he started to look very townie and tried to switch Xata since I liked KSC's case on him and other people also thought he was scum and so I tried to change my vote to Xata but for some reason mods didn't see my vote switch at all....... I still think Xata is scum along with Oats, and BH. Again you keep misrepresenting me on my meta because I did try to look for scum as both alignments..................................................................................................................... I mean check out JOAT and Guardians when I was scum............................ Ok no meta. You aren't looking for scum and making cases, you are only commenting on the thread direction. Therefore you are only trying to blend in. Therefore you are scum. Why look if I think I found scum?
... It felt like Onegu was reading my mind there for a moment.
I'm also seriously considering that HtS might be scum. Just look at her overall posting style. It's way too clean and what's worse, "static". One example: I was her go-to lynch for a long time, even after I had started seriously posting for a while, but her read didn't take my many more recent posts into account at all. It didn't evolve. She just kept repeating her old case (2-3 times I think) and didn't interact with me. Ultimately, much later, her answer was something like "I don't see any change in you" when I had definitely started playing way more actively and focused (with some free time I had gained finally). At that point even Damdred and marv had somewhat changed their minds. And as for HtS... nothing? It feels like she just decided a read beforehand and sticked with it for the day.
rsoultin: I don't think flavor makes someone town. I'm sure the scumteam would be provided with fakeclaims or the game could easily be broken.
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
3/15
Table of Contents (with links!)
(link) Calling out Rso
(link) Batsnacks Convo
(link) RE: Gb's read on BM
(link) BASICALLY A MONDO CASE ON GLOWINGBEAR
resoultin
On May 14 2015 03:13 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point. 79/79 Someone bothered to read it! \o/ Blazinghand and to a lesser extent VE clearly didn't, but that's okay. I realize that um...reading is like, hard. And stuff. Apparently. Or I'm just boring when I'm not giving people head cancer.
I read it. Your stated read is that scumread me because I was inactive, despite the fact that I shot down nukes that you thought were a good idea to be shot down. It was actually WAY more legible than your usual post, and I think you for putting effort into it. The fact that you were willing to produce a post that wasn't punctuated with weird emoticons makes me less likely to scumread you for intentional obfuscation of yrou posts. In regards to what you consider joking or not, the fact of the matter is that you're either bad or scum, and when you try to make yourself legible like this, the third possibility (which is that you're actually good) shines through. Keep up the good work. I haven't had time to read your filter, becasue reading your writing is actually pretty awful usually, but I'll get around to you. Keep on claiming you're joking, though. That's a classic. The fact of the matter is, your reads on me are shit. They've always been shit, and it looks like unless you are wililng to learn from experience, or like actually read meta when you make or accept meta reads, they always will be. I'm sure you're a capable player in your own way, though.
Here's what I want from you, rsoultin. For the rest of your game, post in a way that's comprehensible to other players. Every time you write a post that's mostly waffling, "..."s and smileys, or trying to make your reads seem non-serious or generally nonsensical, I will ignore that post except to note that it seems scummy (in effect, this is how some players already treat your posts. I was talking to some guy earlier, I think KSC? who legit was almost scumreading you, becasue of how you strcuture things). If you communicate in a responsible way, you can expect responsible communication from me. Otherwise, if you act like garbage, I'll treat you like the trash you are and take you out.
Batsnacks
On May 14 2015 03:02 batsnacks wrote:
@BH would you have voted Sandro if not for survival purposes?
Given that sandro only got like 1 or 2 not-me votes, your question doens't seem relevant. When I vote people for survival purposes, I generally announce that I'm doing so (as I did with Vivax). For some reason people like to think this is a scumtell, and almost wagoned back on to me for being honest about it. I don't hide my motivations from the town about these things. In any case, I voted Sandro cause Palmar voted him, and that's basically it. Palmar is usually right. When Sandro actually investigated my meta and like, did reading (he was literally the only person who bothered) I unvoted him. There's no way scum would bother ACTUALLY doing research about the case when literally nobody else was researching my meta, just making stupid uninformed statements about it. He had no reason to do that as scum, so I unvoted him. I trusted my own read more than Palmar's. Palmar apparently is now townreading Sandro also, so I feel pretty good about that.
Nice try dojjing my questions though. What's the deal with the Sandro read?
THE PARDON and GB's thoughts on BM: Nothing suspicious here, just some obesrvations and questions
Hey Stutters, I'm sure you've got a lot on your plate, but I'd like to hear a bit more on your thoughts about THE PARDON.
On May 13 2015 01:41 Stutters695 wrote:
##give 10 posts to Rsoultin
Finishing catching up, what the fuck was that pardon?
Sorry about my absence.
Let's talk about the Pardon. note: GB Pardoned BM, in this post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24247342
On May 12 2015 20:14 GlowingBear wrote:
##Pardon: Bill Murray
Now lynch someone that is scum.
Bye.
basically, he's like "BM is town, don't lynch him" and pardons him, after both nukes and anti-nukes.
This is pretty fitting with his hard defense of Bill (link) though it's worth noting he wavers(link) before later making up his mind that he will save Bill (link) after there's an outpouring of people giving BM posts (an outpouring that was never given to me in my time of need; my warning and censure is a result of that. if you get mad that my posts are super consolidated / long that's because you didn't give me posts yesterday. Give me some at the start of D2 and I will be more conversational)
On May 12 2015 07:31 GlowingBear wrote:
If truffle is town, BH was trying to get town cred
If truffle is Mafia, BH was protecting a scum partner.
I'd also like to note that this is pretty hilarious. You won't let the evidence get in yoru way GB????
Also, GB seems to have a major boner for getting me to give some kind of read on the essentially illegible BM:
On May 12 2015 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 08:13 Blazinghand wrote:On May 12 2015 08:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh boy. Kelsen. BH IS up for the lynch today.
Oh boy.
Oh. Boy. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ostJwEM.jpg) On May 12 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:
BH, is BM scum?
haha, i have no idea dude. shouldn't you be asking me about my reads on JAT (who I voted), or Trfel and Marv, who I saved? lern 2 interrogate On May 12 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Yamato, my reads are not based on confirmation stuff. It's based on my extraordinarily poor understanding of Blazinghand, Mafia, and human nature in general. No need to get yourself down dude you can just move on to another person HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I love you BH But no, I should be asking you. How can you stop two nukes without considering the launcher's alignment?
Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, after BM was pardoned D1, it may not have been the worst idea to kill him, just cause he'd be a pain in the discourse. The no flip, though. that fuckin noflip gets me good because even though BM was probably town, if he was scum I'd be on e-z street collecting all mah towncred
GB's thoughts on Blazinghand and weird EoD activity D1
Ok, getting a bit off topic here. I guess GB really had a described townread on Bill Murray. GB, I'd be interested to hear more from you about this. Clearly you were townreading Bill Murray hard, then you said there's no way we're lynching him, then when we tried, you PARDONED him. So here's an interesting question for you, GB. You very accurately pointed out it's pretty much impossible that BM and I would be on a scumteam together. It would be the hieght of stupidity for hte scumteam to waste two nukes AND two anti-nukes in such a fashion. It seems that even after BM got no-flip vigied, you're pretty confident he's town (not that tehre's anything wrong with that). You pardoned him. You gave him votes. You fought for him. And when people pointed out the possbility of weird things with his alignment (like Oats' suggestion of a BM BH scumteam) you pointed out the various flaws there.
That's all fine, but I'm confused in how that plays in with your read of me. Your only actual vote of me was literally because you didn't want to vote with Marv (link) and otherwise your posting about me has been a little confused, to say the least.
You scumread me for a strange reason here:
On May 12 2015 07:52 GlowingBear wrote:
To me, Kelsen, BH asked Palmar's permission so he could blame Palmar once marv flips read. This is somehow approaching WIFOM territory, but very plausible.
when, there was like 20 seconds of me hesitating to save marv. wtheck dude, I didn't actually ask Palm's permission, IWas like "hey palm what should I do" since he has good reads then I was like "fuck it, I'll save marv". Now maybe your theory is I saved marv because like, I'm scum with him. Sure. But why the weird Palm permission thing that's obviously literally false?
Then, starting after the Pardon you keep on asking people to lynch me without writing a case (link) (link) before voting Oats for reasons that you don't super elaborate until like, tonight (link) though of course you mention the inconrguities earlier. So at this point, you've scumread me and made vague efforts to form a lynch on me, and scumread oats and voted him. Then the vivax wagon collapses and everyone starts voting me, who is one of your scumreads. At this moment, people are unvoting vivax and voting me.
On May 13 2015 07:25 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, this switch to BH wagon feels unnatural and I bet we have at least one scum in the main wagons.
I'm voting Vivax or Oats today. No one else.
On May 13 2015 07:28 GlowingBear wrote:
YOU STUPID TOWN
LOOK HOW EASILY THE WAGON ON BH WAS FORMED AND HOW EASILY VIVAX WAGON WAS DISBANDED
JUST
USE
YOUR
FUCKING
BRAINS!!!!!
This is after you say,
On May 13 2015 00:53 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 00:47 Half the Sky wrote:45/60 Marv - by that same token, do you think he's being vague in regards to Vivax or is that read from him reasonable? He's using meta as a reason to townread Vivax despite Vivax's wanting to trash his town meta (which I would think should make Sandroba disregard meta as well??). But I was asking him to look into the content. His first few reads in the beginning were fine. On May 13 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
[...]
also sand is right, i don't really know why the things you said about him would make him mafia
i think if sand is mafia he's chosen this game to play much, much, much better than normal for some reason. i don't really think that's the case
his VE read - i think a couple people picked up on that because they didn't like it - well, ok, but VE in years gone by (when sand played a lot more) was MUCH more active than he plays these days. It wasn't an unfair thing for him to think, and i think him saying openly that he wasn't married to his VE read looks ok for him I can't comment on the VE read as I'm not even that familiar with VE now other than he doesn't strike me as a town leader. But I just didn't like his responses on Vivax. In any case he's probably and shouldn't get lynched today for it, but I just found it dicey. GB - Oatsmaster is a third choice for me behind Vivax/Xatalos. I think either of the latter two are more likely to get lynched over him. Going to be back around EoD although I don't have too many posts left either. (Any questions (anyone) ask away and I'll consolidate them to save posts.) Could you point out why Vivax or Xatalos are better lynches? Even if you already have. I'll save posts now. I'll probably deliver a case on oats for you to evaluate, and maybe that consolidated list post I am promising since start of the day
To marv, and
On May 13 2015 07:25 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, this switch to BH wagon feels unnatural and I bet we have at least one scum in the main wagons.
I'm voting Vivax or Oats today. No one else.
This is all very strange. Let me summarize my confusion on GB:
So, to be clear, your first mention of vivax is like "why are vivax or xat better lynches??". Half the Sky responds with a SUPER lackluster case (link) which you never respond to, and then you're like "I'm only voting Vivax or Oats" about 6 hours later with no explanation (link) AT ALL. Okay, fine, whatever. And then, when people jump off the Vivax wagon and onto me, your fllip the FUCK out (link) DESPITE the fact that your'e also scumreading me apparently, so I guess I'm town now? Or maybe you mistrust the shenannies, I guess. But then, when people move BACK onto Vivax, who you reallyw anted to lynch over me, your other scumread, you vote me, the guy who you were really mad people were wagoning onto, on the basis of "not voting with marv" (link).
So, I'm really confused here, GlowingBear. It seems like the obvious explanation here is that you're scum and wanted to seem frantic and cause confusion around the deadline as town waflled between two townies. However, maybe there's some actual thought process that coudl explain your actions right a deadline? Maybe some reasoning as to why you flipped out when people moved off of your vivax scumread and onto me? Was I not a scumread of yours, or was I? When people voted me, you were worried, but then when they voted vivax, you switched to me, despite being only willing to vote oats or vivax.
Before you make up a lie story, remember that you're claiming to have made an unflipped associative tell (link)
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On May 14 2015 03:58 Xatalos wrote:I think I'm about at the post limit so not gonna post much tonight. I guess I should focus more on bigger posts and reading with these restrictions instead of posting whatever I like usual. Thanks for not lynching me yesterday. It was too bad that I had to wake up so early this morning, but life is life. In the next days I should have plenty more time and also capability to stay awake for deadlines. I actually kind of liked BH's recent posts, especially the one where he talked about rsoultin's read changes. It matched well with my own thoughts... So I'm considering just waiting and seeing more from him for now. Right now I'd most want to lynch LS. His attitude is just completely non-town any way I look at it. I may have to reconsider Onegu for a moment after looking at this exchange between LS and Onegu: Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:On May 14 2015 03:35 Onegu wrote:On May 14 2015 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point. I had a strong scumread on Vivax but then I reconsidered later because he started to look very townie and tried to switch Xata since I liked KSC's case on him and other people also thought he was scum and so I tried to change my vote to Xata but for some reason mods didn't see my vote switch at all....... I still think Xata is scum along with Oats, and BH. Again you keep misrepresenting me on my meta because I did try to look for scum as both alignments..................................................................................................................... I mean check out JOAT and Guardians when I was scum............................ Ok no meta. You aren't looking for scum and making cases, you are only commenting on the thread direction. Therefore you are only trying to blend in. Therefore you are scum. Why look if I think I found scum? ... It felt like Onegu was reading my mind there for a moment. I'm also seriously considering that HtS might be scum. Just look at her overall posting style. It's way too clean and what's worse, "static". One example: I was her go-to lynch for a long time, even after I had started seriously posting for a while, but her read didn't take my many more recent posts into account at all. It didn't evolve. She just kept repeating her old case (2-3 times I think) and didn't interact with me. Ultimately, much later, her answer was something like "I don't see any change in you" when I had definitely started playing way more actively and focused (with some free time I had gained finally). At that point even Damdred and marv had somewhat changed their minds. And as for HtS... nothing? It feels like she just decided a read beforehand and sticked with it for the day. rsoultin: I don't think flavor makes someone town. I'm sure the scumteam would be provided with fakeclaims or the game could easily be broken.
![[image loading]](https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTX2-kRXcPEx2M6fJ2HnddHksjOu_vVEmM0Xfn7qTS41dtuakeCew)
Read my latest scum games in Jack of all Trades and Guardians and look XXX and Student VII for a quick sample of my town games.
XXX: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=lightningstrike
Student VIII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483087-newbie-student-mafia-viii?user=LightningStrike
Jack of all Trades: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Guardains: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike
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On May 14 2015 04:10 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 03:58 Xatalos wrote:I think I'm about at the post limit so not gonna post much tonight. I guess I should focus more on bigger posts and reading with these restrictions instead of posting whatever I like usual. Thanks for not lynching me yesterday. It was too bad that I had to wake up so early this morning, but life is life. In the next days I should have plenty more time and also capability to stay awake for deadlines. I actually kind of liked BH's recent posts, especially the one where he talked about rsoultin's read changes. It matched well with my own thoughts... So I'm considering just waiting and seeing more from him for now. Right now I'd most want to lynch LS. His attitude is just completely non-town any way I look at it. I may have to reconsider Onegu for a moment after looking at this exchange between LS and Onegu: On May 14 2015 03:41 LightningStrike wrote:On May 14 2015 03:35 Onegu wrote:On May 14 2015 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point. I had a strong scumread on Vivax but then I reconsidered later because he started to look very townie and tried to switch Xata since I liked KSC's case on him and other people also thought he was scum and so I tried to change my vote to Xata but for some reason mods didn't see my vote switch at all....... I still think Xata is scum along with Oats, and BH. Again you keep misrepresenting me on my meta because I did try to look for scum as both alignments..................................................................................................................... I mean check out JOAT and Guardians when I was scum............................ Ok no meta. You aren't looking for scum and making cases, you are only commenting on the thread direction. Therefore you are only trying to blend in. Therefore you are scum. Why look if I think I found scum? ... It felt like Onegu was reading my mind there for a moment. I'm also seriously considering that HtS might be scum. Just look at her overall posting style. It's way too clean and what's worse, "static". One example: I was her go-to lynch for a long time, even after I had started seriously posting for a while, but her read didn't take my many more recent posts into account at all. It didn't evolve. She just kept repeating her old case (2-3 times I think) and didn't interact with me. Ultimately, much later, her answer was something like "I don't see any change in you" when I had definitely started playing way more actively and focused (with some free time I had gained finally). At that point even Damdred and marv had somewhat changed their minds. And as for HtS... nothing? It feels like she just decided a read beforehand and sticked with it for the day. rsoultin: I don't think flavor makes someone town. I'm sure the scumteam would be provided with fakeclaims or the game could easily be broken. Read my latest scum games in Jack of all Trades and Guardians and look XXX and Student VII for a quick sample of my town games. XXX: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=lightningstrikeStudent VIII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483087-newbie-student-mafia-viii?user=LightningStrikeJack of all Trades: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrikeGuardains: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike
Im not using meta, you are scummy because you are doing scummy things and not making your own reads or trying to find scum...
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On May 14 2015 04:02 Blazinghand wrote:3/15 Table of Contents (with links!)(link) Calling out Rso (link) Batsnacks Convo (link) RE: Gb's read on BM (link) BASICALLY A MONDO CASE ON GLOWINGBEAR resoultinShow nested quote +On May 14 2015 03:13 rsoultin wrote:On May 14 2015 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Ok LS is lieing he doesnt have any strong scum reads at all this game. He scum read vivax for being different than what he remembers. Then after scum reading Vivax all game he wants to switch to xata because, well Im not really sure he never really gives a good reason to...
A town LS actively looks for scum. He is not doing any of that this game.
Second read his filter he is basicly only giving town reads. And commenting on what is popular in the thread. I mean he made 3 posts on who the smurf is...
This isnt a LS town game.
@rsoul. LOL at making a novel and then putting inside of it that people wont read it because it is a novel... <3. Still think you are scum with LS this game. You should have no reason to townread him at this point. 79/79 Someone bothered to read it! \o/ Blazinghand and to a lesser extent VE clearly didn't, but that's okay. I realize that um...reading is like, hard. And stuff. Apparently. Or I'm just boring when I'm not giving people head cancer. I read it. Your stated read is that scumread me because I was inactive, despite the fact that I shot down nukes that you thought were a good idea to be shot down. It was actually WAY more legible than your usual post, and I think you for putting effort into it. The fact that you were willing to produce a post that wasn't punctuated with weird emoticons makes me less likely to scumread you for intentional obfuscation of yrou posts. In regards to what you consider joking or not, the fact of the matter is that you're either bad or scum, and when you try to make yourself legible like this, the third possibility (which is that you're actually good) shines through. Keep up the good work. I haven't had time to read your filter, becasue reading your writing is actually pretty awful usually, but I'll get around to you. Keep on claiming you're joking, though. That's a classic. The fact of the matter is, your reads on me are shit. They've always been shit, and it looks like unless you are wililng to learn from experience, or like actually read meta when you make or accept meta reads, they always will be. I'm sure you're a capable player in your own way, though. Here's what I want from you, rsoultin. For the rest of your game, post in a way that's comprehensible to other players. Every time you write a post that's mostly waffling, "..."s and smileys, or trying to make your reads seem non-serious or generally nonsensical, I will ignore that post except to note that it seems scummy (in effect, this is how some players already treat your posts. I was talking to some guy earlier, I think KSC? who legit was almost scumreading you, becasue of how you strcuture things). If you communicate in a responsible way, you can expect responsible communication from me. Otherwise, if you act like garbage, I'll treat you like the trash you are and take you out. BatsnacksShow nested quote +On May 14 2015 03:02 batsnacks wrote:
@BH would you have voted Sandro if not for survival purposes? Given that sandro only got like 1 or 2 not-me votes, your question doens't seem relevant. When I vote people for survival purposes, I generally announce that I'm doing so (as I did with Vivax). For some reason people like to think this is a scumtell, and almost wagoned back on to me for being honest about it. I don't hide my motivations from the town about these things. In any case, I voted Sandro cause Palmar voted him, and that's basically it. Palmar is usually right. When Sandro actually investigated my meta and like, did reading (he was literally the only person who bothered) I unvoted him. There's no way scum would bother ACTUALLY doing research about the case when literally nobody else was researching my meta, just making stupid uninformed statements about it. He had no reason to do that as scum, so I unvoted him. I trusted my own read more than Palmar's. Palmar apparently is now townreading Sandro also, so I feel pretty good about that. Nice try dojjing my questions though. What's the deal with the Sandro read?
THE PARDON and GB's thoughts on BM: Nothing suspicious here, just some obesrvations and questionsHey Stutters, I'm sure you've got a lot on your plate, but I'd like to hear a bit more on your thoughts about THE PARDON. Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 01:41 Stutters695 wrote:
##give 10 posts to Rsoultin
Finishing catching up, what the fuck was that pardon?
Sorry about my absence. Let's talk about the Pardon. note: GB Pardoned BM, in this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24247342Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 20:14 GlowingBear wrote:
##Pardon: Bill Murray
Now lynch someone that is scum.
Bye. basically, he's like "BM is town, don't lynch him" and pardons him, after both nukes and anti-nukes. This is pretty fitting with his hard defense of Bill (link) though it's worth noting he wavers (link) before later making up his mind that he will save Bill (link) after there's an outpouring of people giving BM posts (an outpouring that was never given to me in my time of need; my warning and censure is a result of that. if you get mad that my posts are super consolidated / long that's because you didn't give me posts yesterday. Give me some at the start of D2 and I will be more conversational) Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 07:31 GlowingBear wrote:
If truffle is town, BH was trying to get town cred
If truffle is Mafia, BH was protecting a scum partner. I'd also like to note that this is pretty hilarious. You won't let the evidence get in yoru way GB???? Also, GB seems to have a major boner for getting me to give some kind of read on the essentially illegible BM: Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 08:17 GlowingBear wrote:On May 12 2015 08:13 Blazinghand wrote:On May 12 2015 08:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh boy. Kelsen. BH IS up for the lynch today.
Oh boy.
Oh. Boy. On May 12 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:
BH, is BM scum?
haha, i have no idea dude. shouldn't you be asking me about my reads on JAT (who I voted), or Trfel and Marv, who I saved? lern 2 interrogate On May 12 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Yamato, my reads are not based on confirmation stuff. It's based on my extraordinarily poor understanding of Blazinghand, Mafia, and human nature in general. No need to get yourself down dude you can just move on to another person HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I love you BH But no, I should be asking you. How can you stop two nukes without considering the launcher's alignment? Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, after BM was pardoned D1, it may not have been the worst idea to kill him, just cause he'd be a pain in the discourse. The no flip, though. that fuckin noflip gets me good because even though BM was probably town, if he was scum I'd be on e-z street collecting all mah towncred
GB's thoughts on Blazinghand and weird EoD activity D1Ok, getting a bit off topic here. I guess GB really had a described townread on Bill Murray. GB, I'd be interested to hear more from you about this. Clearly you were townreading Bill Murray hard, then you said there's no way we're lynching him, then when we tried, you PARDONED him. So here's an interesting question for you, GB. You very accurately pointed out it's pretty much impossible that BM and I would be on a scumteam together. It would be the hieght of stupidity for hte scumteam to waste two nukes AND two anti-nukes in such a fashion. It seems that even after BM got no-flip vigied, you're pretty confident he's town (not that tehre's anything wrong with that). You pardoned him. You gave him votes. You fought for him. And when people pointed out the possbility of weird things with his alignment (like Oats' suggestion of a BM BH scumteam) you pointed out the various flaws there. That's all fine, but I'm confused in how that plays in with your read of me. Your only actual vote of me was literally because you didn't want to vote with Marv (link) and otherwise your posting about me has been a little confused, to say the least. You scumread me for a strange reason here: Show nested quote +On May 12 2015 07:52 GlowingBear wrote:
To me, Kelsen, BH asked Palmar's permission so he could blame Palmar once marv flips read. This is somehow approaching WIFOM territory, but very plausible.
when, there was like 20 seconds of me hesitating to save marv. wtheck dude, I didn't actually ask Palm's permission, IWas like "hey palm what should I do" since he has good reads then I was like "fuck it, I'll save marv". Now maybe your theory is I saved marv because like, I'm scum with him. Sure. But why the weird Palm permission thing that's obviously literally false? Then, starting after the Pardon you keep on asking people to lynch me without writing a case (link) (link) before voting Oats for reasons that you don't super elaborate until like, tonight (link) though of course you mention the inconrguities earlier. So at this point, you've scumread me and made vague efforts to form a lynch on me, and scumread oats and voted him. Then the vivax wagon collapses and everyone starts voting me, who is one of your scumreads. At this moment, people are unvoting vivax and voting me. Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 07:25 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, this switch to BH wagon feels unnatural and I bet we have at least one scum in the main wagons.
I'm voting Vivax or Oats today. No one else. Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 07:28 GlowingBear wrote:
YOU STUPID TOWN
LOOK HOW EASILY THE WAGON ON BH WAS FORMED AND HOW EASILY VIVAX WAGON WAS DISBANDED
JUST
USE
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BRAINS!!!!! This is after you say, Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 00:53 GlowingBear wrote:On May 13 2015 00:47 Half the Sky wrote:45/60 Marv - by that same token, do you think he's being vague in regards to Vivax or is that read from him reasonable? He's using meta as a reason to townread Vivax despite Vivax's wanting to trash his town meta (which I would think should make Sandroba disregard meta as well??). But I was asking him to look into the content. His first few reads in the beginning were fine. On May 13 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
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also sand is right, i don't really know why the things you said about him would make him mafia
i think if sand is mafia he's chosen this game to play much, much, much better than normal for some reason. i don't really think that's the case
his VE read - i think a couple people picked up on that because they didn't like it - well, ok, but VE in years gone by (when sand played a lot more) was MUCH more active than he plays these days. It wasn't an unfair thing for him to think, and i think him saying openly that he wasn't married to his VE read looks ok for him I can't comment on the VE read as I'm not even that familiar with VE now other than he doesn't strike me as a town leader. But I just didn't like his responses on Vivax. In any case he's probably and shouldn't get lynched today for it, but I just found it dicey. GB - Oatsmaster is a third choice for me behind Vivax/Xatalos. I think either of the latter two are more likely to get lynched over him. Going to be back around EoD although I don't have too many posts left either. (Any questions (anyone) ask away and I'll consolidate them to save posts.) Could you point out why Vivax or Xatalos are better lynches? Even if you already have. I'll save posts now. I'll probably deliver a case on oats for you to evaluate, and maybe that consolidated list post I am promising since start of the day To marv, and Show nested quote +On May 13 2015 07:25 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, this switch to BH wagon feels unnatural and I bet we have at least one scum in the main wagons.
I'm voting Vivax or Oats today. No one else. This is all very strange. Let me summarize my confusion on GB:So, to be clear, your first mention of vivax is like "why are vivax or xat better lynches??". Half the Sky responds with a SUPER lackluster case (link) which you never respond to, and then you're like "I'm only voting Vivax or Oats" about 6 hours later with no explanation (link) AT ALL. Okay, fine, whatever. And then, when people jump off the Vivax wagon and onto me, your fllip the FUCK out (link) DESPITE the fact that your'e also scumreading me apparently, so I guess I'm town now? Or maybe you mistrust the shenannies, I guess. But then, when people move BACK onto Vivax, who you reallyw anted to lynch over me, your other scumread, you vote me, the guy who you were really mad people were wagoning onto, on the basis of "not voting with marv" (link). So, I'm really confused here, GlowingBear. It seems like the obvious explanation here is that you're scum and wanted to seem frantic and cause confusion around the deadline as town waflled between two townies. However, maybe there's some actual thought process that coudl explain your actions right a deadline? Maybe some reasoning as to why you flipped out when people moved off of your vivax scumread and onto me? Was I not a scumread of yours, or was I? When people voted me, you were worried, but then when they voted vivax, you switched to me, despite being only willing to vote oats or vivax. Before you make up a lie story, remember that you're claiming to have made an unflipped associative tell (link)
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Frankly, no.
xD Some random townie once told me, I refuse to be intimidated or threatened! Do you realize how fucking ridiculous it would be for me to write posts like that constantly? The majority of this site can look at my meta and not be complete shit players and realize that I'm town despite the emoticons and the jumping around. This is how I play. This is my meta which actually, you should be quite familiar with given how many games you've hosted with me in them.
I refuse...to do...what you...refuse...to do. I refuse...to play differently...just because...you're threatening...to lynch me.
I wrote that post expressly for the purposes of making it easier for people to follow me that one time, and while I may consider changing how I play in the future, I will not be strong-armed. Threatened. Intimidated. You may lynch me, but you will just prove how scum or shit you are, and how little awareness you actually have of the thread. So bring it on. I'm graduating this weekend and I could care less for once if y'all mislynch me.
You think you're good enough to get the world to follow you on a mislynch of a clear, obvious, practically confirmed (if you were reading at all) town? Maybe you are. You're great at bullshitting, and maybe you'd even believe it. However, if you're town and trying to win you'd drop this bullshit trying to force me to play differently and actually find scum.
You yourself said that I am one of the most universally townread players on this site on a regular basis, a standard Night One (let me add Night Two/medic save xP) night kill because it's just so obvious.
So are you now honestly admitting to being worse than practically the entirety of TL Mafia at identifying obvious townies?
lolol ><
Please. Do. Try to lynch me. Prove how fucking bad you are. \o/
Nice WIFOM on the night kill bit btw.
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On May 14 2015 04:14 rsoultin wrote:
I'm bad and refuse to write legibly. Although I'm good at not getting lynched as a townie, and admittedly bad at hunting scum or pushing my cases, I don't think being useful to town is my main goal this game. Instead, my goal is to survive. Being helpful is not important to me, since i'm an awful person and/or scum
kk trash prepare to get taken out. you're obviously secondary to more important/relevant people like GB but you will not survive to and end game town victory this game, on my honor as a Scotsman
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