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Vivax has been lynched!
(As a reminder, flips are alignment-only unless specified otherwise by a role.)
Vivax has been lynched!
(As a reminder, flips are alignment-only unless specified otherwise by a role.)
Assassination Mafia! - Page 76
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Trfel posted some interesting things trying to distance himself from the lunch though | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Warnings to BlazingHand, KelsierSC, and GlowingBear for flaunting post-count restrictions. Punishments will be notified to these players by PM. Please keep discussion about moderation in PM land. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
FML. I am so sorry Vivax. Looks like I need to focus on the people that jumped on the wagons for shaky reasoning. Going to look at the votes and digest. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On May 13 2015 09:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Please. Was I being stupid, idiotic, and even scummy? Yes. Was I trying to distance myself from the lynch? No, I was not. I said Vivax was the best lynch, I was wrong, that's my fault.Life is tough. Trfel posted some interesting things trying to distance himself from the lunch though I'll need to re-evaulate everything tonight, I feel like my reads are in all the wrong places. Be back later. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
:/ eh well, i'll actually post something more coherent sometime between now and EoN two posts left so...questions/discussion just you know make it clear you're asking me...i'll address those in a separate post. and i'll try to even write more collegiate for y'all even though it'll look all...high-fluting uppity xP just cause you know...brain cancer accusations and the incessant questions to clarify my reads despite the explanations in my filter >> almost broke my heart there for a moment damdy bueno...random sidebar eden's gb meta that i kinda adore is how frequently he changes his vote as town...like a hyper-active jumping bean who can't make up his mind. i'll revisit his filter but that read has worked fairly well for me in the past and makes me inclined to think he's town here :/ -poofs for the night- | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
No warning to Glowingbear because I can't count. Carry on. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
I plan on getting some stuff out tomorrow, don't waste those plz BH. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
I still think Xat is mafia so that is going to be where I look in the night, xatalos was a real lynch but it never quite got there and the lynch ended up between vivax and BH, i need to know how that happened. If BH is town and we know vivax is town then you know i'm more looking at people who wanted the lynch not to be xat or who just seemed happy to sit where they were, off the top of my head, I'd look at these people tomorrow Xat JAT TD LS Rs i'm not sure how to evaluate RS actions EOD as apparently she had some personal vendetta to get bh lynched . not too happy if that is the case. then I also think it is important to consider the people who didn't give a shit EOD and seemed to float under the radar bats RoL obi palmars play was really weird aswell just leaving his vote out on sand when that was never really going to be the lynch. I also don't see stutters vote so I'm not sure what is happening with that. I will look through things more closely during the night phase but that is where I am at right now. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Yamato looks scummy as fuck for not saying anything other than lynch bh multiple times. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On May 13 2015 10:30 Oatsmaster wrote: Kiel, how did I float under the rader? Yamato looks scummy as fuck for not saying anything other than lynch bh multiple times. i didn't say you floated under the radar. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
In other news, I could be willing to give a few posts to Half the Sky if she needs them. I'm doing pretty well at hitting the 20 posts per 24 hours rate, but my reads are not doing so well.... I also realized that the argument that Blazinghand is town because he could have claimed to have no anti-nukes remaining is really bad. If Blazinghand is mafia and doesn't save marvellosity by claiming to have no anti-nukes left, he can't ever use his remaining anti-nukes without getting immediately lynched. Plus, town would almost certainly have anti-nukes as well, so marvellosity would likely be saved. Batsnacks looks extremely suspicious for the drop in his activity and complete absence throughout the lynch. But I'd like him to come back and explain himself, particularly why sandroba is mafia. I had a townread on him earlier (for getting a very natural balance between jokes/sarcasm and reads), and I can't justify changing that for inactivity alone. Still think that Onegu could very well be scum, though his alignment isn't certain yet. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On May 13 2015 09:51 KelsierSC wrote: I'm still in the world where BH is town, his posting EOD and his decision with the nuke, town to me. I still think Xat is mafia so that is going to be where I look in the night, xatalos was a real lynch but it never quite got there and the lynch ended up between vivax and BH, i need to know how that happened. If BH is town and we know vivax is town then you know i'm more looking at people who wanted the lynch not to be xat or who just seemed happy to sit where they were, off the top of my head, I'd look at these people tomorrow Xat JAT TD LS Rs i'm not sure how to evaluate RS actions EOD as apparently she had some personal vendetta to get bh lynched . not too happy if that is the case. then I also think it is important to consider the people who didn't give a shit EOD and seemed to float under the radar bats RoL obi palmars play was really weird aswell just leaving his vote out on sand when that was never really going to be the lynch. I also don't see stutters vote so I'm not sure what is happening with that. I will look through things more closely during the night phase but that is where I am at right now. Why do people think this guy is town? He just name dropped more than a third of the game without any real sense of direction or context and just made almost all of them seem suspicious. It's an incredibly unfocused post and reeks of mafia casting doubt. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Trfel, talk to me in detail because I've kind of been away from the thread: why is KSC town? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Obi, explain why BH is scum, ignoring anti nuke play. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 13 2015 09:38 Stutters695 wrote: ##give 10 posts Blazinghand I plan on getting some stuff out tomorrow, don't waste those plz BH. Thanks, Stutters. I'll make sure to meet and/or exceed your expectations. I won't specifically mention any pms the host may or may not have sent me, but if *I* were hosting this game, I think the correct way to deal with Blazinghand's overposting would be to allow him 5 posts during N1 and 10 posts during the combined D2+N2 cycle. I'd be pretty surprised if Hapahauli diverged from this gold standard. Not saying anything about any PMs I may or may not have recieved from mods though, since that would be against the rules, just saying that I'd expect someone in my position to be allowed 5 posts N1 and 10 posts during D2+N2, and so some donations (AFTER THE START OF D2) would potentially be useful. Since I have 14 posts for tonight, I'll make sure to stay focused. I definitely pushed it with the amount of posts near the end of D1 there but it prevented me from getting lynched. Sadly, I didn't have the thread influence to make the yamato lynch happen. My initial plans for the N1 involve talking about Yamato a bit, and investigating a couple other scumreads. Probably not rsoultin, since I think it's not important to consider her unless she lives to D2 (she's a very very popular N1 shot since she's universally townread in very game). Then it would be time to talk about her. I'd be interested to hear a bit more from damdy about the his thoughts on what happened with BM and the nature of his Policy Shot. Although I appreciate stopping BM dominating the D1 discussion, what happened to the follow-up on LS and Xat? It's not the strangest thing you voted me (given that you didn't like the fact that I hesitated for like 30 seconds in thread to save Marv), but it *is* strange that you completely fell off on those reads. Maybe they just fell to the back of your mind, but I'ld like to hear what you have to say about them now, Damdred. KSC, I'd like to talk to you about the evolution of your reads on Rsoultin. Early on, you chat with her a bit, then you express some skepticism about her play early on http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24234567 and wonder why people are so quick to (link) call her town. In your consolidated reads post (link) you judge a lot of people on their interactions with her then say she gives you brain cancer. you then adds Rsoultin to your "town cricle and Trfel, to his enormous credit, calls your out on it. KSC, your response is (link): rsoultin - I have trouble reading her posts , it seemed like she was reluctant to label anyone town or mafia hence my questioning, my town read comes from the fact that if you put the effort to decipher the posts she does give reads and the fact that I remember her as a standout from n0 makes her town to me. which does not actually jive with n0, unless by standout you mean "person who made lots of posts.". The fact that she made lots of posts isn't new information at this point, so I'm wondering if you could elaborate a little on your thought process back there, or was it just you decided that peopel who posted extensively N0 were town, and hadn't thought of that until later on? Your followup is to point out some posts by rso (link) then say (link) that her reasons for calling mafia are bad becasue she called people town. Now here's the thing, I think rsoultin's reason for her 180 on Xata, which is, and I quote, nd i dunnae xata just...eh. lol he can fool me easily. carol proved that. and i find it really difficult to believe he's already forgotten carol -_- and vivax going after him hard, cause i remember it quite clearly is probably one of the least convincing cases I've ever read. In fact, you definitely read this cause you bolded the text next to it. rsoultin then tells you about this reason, and your rsponse is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24246204 ok, i just didn't think "eh he fooled me before" was a good enough reason to do a 180 on a read. i'm sorry Rsoultin calls you out on it and phrases the read more forcefully (if she did this before then I could see it be a little more convicning and you have this interaction (link) in which rsoultin basically calls you bad and your response is to apologise and make excuses, and remember, this is after you say rsoultin's like, in your town circle or whatever, then you say this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24246281 and then this: On May 12 2015 11:37 KelsierSC wrote: okey dokey i don't really care about lynching you today. So now I'm confused. Are you null/confusedreading rsoultin, and don't know why people were townreading her (as earlier)? are you townreading her as part of your town circle? or are you scumreading her? or do you not want to lycnh her? Obviously there's a progression here, but I'm very very confused about what you are thinking near the end here. You then call Vivax's read on rso confusing (link) or confused, then vote Xat. Eventually, you end up here: On May 13 2015 09:51 KelsierSC wrote: i'm not sure how to evaluate RS actions EOD as apparently she had some personal vendetta to get bh lynched . not too happy if that is the case. I personally think there's quite a lot fish about RS (with the unusual amount of emotes, the super dense and difficult to read posts, and the "joking" vendetta that became serious during D1). I'd like to hear more about RS from you, KSC. IT seems like you're confused about your read WRT EoD stuff, but I'd also like to hear about what you were thinking as time went by during N0/D1 as well, when you have the chance. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On May 13 2015 10:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Terrible switch to Vivax that really shouldn't have happened. Just because you read Marv as town doesn't mean you should just up and sheep him whenever he shows up ITT. He said he was stoned and he basically switched off of BH for no reason. Why do people think this guy is town? He just name dropped more than a third of the game without any real sense of direction or context and just made almost all of them seem suspicious. It's an incredibly unfocused post and reeks of mafia casting doubt. I was explaining where my head was at after EOD and where I planned to look. there is no direction or context at this point because I haven't made up my mind on everyone yet. when I have decided who I think is mafia and who we should lynch then I will let you know. as I have done throughout the game. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
I need people to give me posts. Just three more are okay. I'm not putting any content in here because I don't want to be unfair and keep exceeding post count. This is just a "begging" | ||
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