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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Ravagers either need a redesign, a nerf to Corrosive Bile in the early game, or a nerf to the unit itself to move it up to Hive tech. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On April 28 2015 03:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: BURROW MOVE SWARMHOSTS HOLY FUCK Actually that's not even the biggest change, but giving them back the cost of 200/100/3 and removing the upgrade for flying locusts. Burrow move is just icing on the cake.  Impressive change to them nonetheless. | ||
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IncubusStarCraft2
Canada18 Posts
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
Person ally, I like it at the Fusion Core. Together with the Banshee upgrade, they're trying to make sure that there are no buildings in the game that lack relevance, and the only building that currently does in HotS is the Fusion Core. You can see any other structure built in a competitive series and not be surprised. | ||
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justnny
United States171 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3287 Posts
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
(1) If it's an air unit, bin it. (2) If it's a melee unit, bin it. (3) If it's beefier or more expensive than the Tank, bin it. Ghosts, Reapers (seems they're looking at it, though it's far from being a priority!), Hellbats, Mines, Thors, Vikings, Banshees, Ravens all need to undergo mild to drastic changes in their roles and/or stats. There is already enough work to be done here, without making the burden heavier for dubious reasons. The idea of an autonomous Starport tech path is ridiculous. Splitting mech/air upgrades anew is most welcome though. | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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NasusAndDraven
359 Posts
we only gave terran 1 new unit in HotS, fucking hell just add something so they wont be left out. Just such a shame they are now deciding to not do baracks unit again. With lurkers, 8 armor ultralisk, disruptors, pick up siege tanks and nerfed marauders, seems like going bio is not an option in any match up atm. Also does that ravager change mean that they attack 2 times slower? As in half DPS with 2 lower range? If so this is by far the biggest nerf any unit has received in the history of SC2. Even bigger than the Mothership in WoL beta. | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
I'd be sad if they added ship weapons/armor again. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On April 28 2015 03:25 Clbull wrote: The problem with the Ravager isn't the attack period or the weapon range. It's how overpowered Corrosive Bile is. Corrosive Bile offers an early game method for Zerg players to:
Ravagers either need a redesign, a nerf to Corrosive Bile in the early game, or a nerf to the unit itself to move it up to Hive tech. No, actually you hardly hit anything with Corrosive bile(not including buildings). You can't hit Siege Tanks if they have Medivac Support at all and a lot of Terran players open like that nowadays. Reason why Ravagers were too good is because you had to evade Corrosive Bile while Ravagers were dealing enormous damage with their auto-attacks as they have damage of the Roach with attack speed of Hydralisks. Ravager's dps was so high that Corrosive bile didn't matter in a lot of cases as it wasn't reliable. Neither Protoss nor Terran has so much problems with Force Fields that Zerg has for 5 years already so it is pointless to compare Zergs to the rest in that regard. Corrosive bile is strong and it should be, but it probably should be less spammable. Their stats however, need to be different from Roaches/Hydralisks in my opinion, they don't feel like different units, just big Hydras/Roaches with Corrosive Bile. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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spirates
Sweden148 Posts
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NasusAndDraven
359 Posts
On April 28 2015 03:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: POLLS ARE UP!!!!!! Why no "what is damage point?" option for adept change? | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On April 28 2015 03:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: POLLS ARE UP!!!!!! “Are you pleased with the overall direction of the changes?” please | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 28 2015 03:12 Topin wrote: the cyclone upgrade is too far in the tech tree imo, it should be in the armory Should be removed completely. Balances out cyclone verse zerg better. Toss still fucked though. | ||
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tili
United States1332 Posts
On April 28 2015 03:12 Topin wrote: the cyclone upgrade is too far in the tech tree imo, it should be in the armory Ehh, the armory is almost too easy though (usually you could get in around the same time as any significant number of air units), especially since the upgrade is so cheap... and, it has the bonus of incentivizing BC play  | ||
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NasusAndDraven
359 Posts
On April 28 2015 03:34 spirates wrote: sooooo what is this new terran unit that they speak of? Also wtf air upgrade for cyclone from fusion core!? That's so faaaaaaaaar away wtf.. I was looking forward to not having to build useless fucking thors against Muta harrasment but guess thats out the window now Welcome to SC2: Legacy of the Harrasment. Blizzard wants you to suffer. | ||
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