EPTI'm sorry for arguing like that with you. It was not called for. My apologies, you didn't deserve it in the slightest. Until those pushes on Breshke and me, you were playing a very good scum game.
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Trfel
7015 Posts
I'm sorry for arguing like that with you. It was not called for. My apologies, you didn't deserve it in the slightest. Until those pushes on Breshke and me, you were playing a very good scum game. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
I was planning on casing Bourneq too but ran out of energy. Rso said something about not needing defending then I realized maybe I shouldn't say anything about Bourneq. Later Trfel said its weird no ones pushing Bourn, so I didn't. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 18 2015 08:43 plotspot wrote: your post are kinda hard to understand, maybe if i used the same formatting, i can channel on to it >< what'd ya mean by filthy military language? i kinda read on down under 2, this one guy going after you, that was extreme, but you also seemed to provoke him (unwittingly or not), did you noticed something to avoid so such a thing might not occur again? if you're talking about robik i did that on purpose lol ^^; so just...don't do it on purpose? | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 18 2015 08:59 Breshke wrote: The vigilante claim was questionable.Srry for that vet claim play. I cant say enough how in retrospect idk how i thought it would work. The vet claim had to happen there. You weren't going to get shot, and you were under reasonably heavy suspicion. That was a good choice, I think. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On April 18 2015 08:56 rsoultin wrote: if you're talking about robik i did that on purpose lol ^^; so just...don't do it on purpose? Plotspot - I moderated that game, so I can definitely say this - and most other mods will agree but here's the thing with that situation: The vast majority of moderators will never have a problem if you use a forceful tone/a few swear words when focusing on an argument. It is when you start using personal attacks and start attacking the person (like saying I hope you get AIDS or not wanting to play with the person again in a certain game) then it becomes grounds for a warning or a modkill depending on the extent. In that situation, this individual - Robik - went through nearly a page of personal insults, and one particular post was borderline criminal. It had zero place ever in a TL game. I had no choice but to remove him from the game especially as he was subsequently forum banned. See, ripping a case apart is okay. Calling someone's argument absurd/idiotic/bullshit/rubbish/whatever is okay. But once you wade into the ad hominem territory depending on the moderator, you risk either a warning to a modkill and if you get modkilled, you will have been issued a standard behaviour ban in post-game. There's nothing wrong with showing passion for or against a position, but you need to do it in a way that is appropriate. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 18 2015 08:52 Trfel wrote: Hi, Tubesock. I'm sorry for arguing like that with you. It was not called for. My apologies, you didn't deserve it in the slightest. Until those pushes on Breshke and me, you were playing a very good scum game. I didn't take it personal. I didn't think you said anything mean or degrading. personally, you at least talked about how my case was bad with reasons. In the past scum just called me stupid to and tried discrediting me on dumb newbness. You Breshke, and Prphlz used reasons. I had to town Breshke and Prplhz earlier. Town tube would have backed down and pushed no lynch. Hard no lynch. It made it easier to keep distracting but also I was planning on doing more today on you. I didn't want my cases too good because before when I did my tin foils I had more and more rational and easier to read posts. I knew I couldn't organically come up with anything. I had some posts in mind of yours that I thought I could argue you were just nitpicking. Like shining couldn't read 16 pages in 30 minute. You didn't seem to consider he read X amount before replacing or that they were mostly one liners. My goal was to get town to consider you. I got word I'm working all weekend 12-16 hour days so knew I was going to die even if I didn't case you and breshke. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 18 2015 08:59 Breshke wrote: Srry for that vet claim play. I cant say enough how in retrospect idk how i thought it would work. lol <3 tbf my reaction to your claims would have been the same as town lol >< like you would never have had to claim vet if you hadn't fake-claimed vig, though i do see what you were doing and did the moment you bolded all caps'd  of course it was a bit more annoying as scum cause then i had two confirmeds i had to work around on top of everything else lol(as town i would have hoped you were fake-claiming vet there but yeah...that's not much better...either way if it were me i wouldn't have claimed vet unless i was about to be lynched?) but i don't even cc as scum even when the play is optimal lol >< and my jk claim was abysmal in guardians, so live and learn! | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
robik has a pretty well-known anger problem lol >< most of the players here aren't anything like that | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On April 18 2015 09:01 Trfel wrote: The vigilante claim was questionable. The vet claim had to happen there. You weren't going to get shot, and you were under reasonably heavy suspicion. That was a good choice, I think. Questionable lol. We all know it was definitely a bad idea. hahaha I just felt i was useless cos id get rb'd and killed and was selfish so tried to go for a big play. #neveragain | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
Inactivity kills towns more than anything else. D1 everyone who was possibly getting lynched (plot, dwarf, and myself) were not active. That meant that scum just had to be moderately active and they escape a lot of scrutiny. This happened all 3 days essentially with different people. Additionally, although scum hunting is obviously important establishing yourself as solid town is just as important in some cases. Although my reads were ass, my d2 posting took me out of the lynch discussion and allowed the town to focus on checking other people. Prpl did a great job of this d1 but I was so caught up on his inactivity d2, I never realized it. Had that clicked and didn't distract half the town from investigating others, we would have had significantly more information and basically confirmed towns moving forward making it much easier to narrow down the pool. Regarding PRs, although I don't understand Shining's reason for shooting me, it was probably a good time to shoot considering he probably would be mislynched d3 if not. However, when you are a vigilante unless there is some obvious reason you generally want to take out a lurker you aren't sure will start contributing more. If I were the vig for example, I probably would have shot one of Breshke/Bourneq/Tube since if I lived and prpl never returned he would easily be lynchable or I can get a better read if he does return, while they were mia a lot of d2 and seemed harder to read. Going into d3 after the vig, that left town at 5-3 MYLO. This is where town misused the PRs imo. Scum has no reason to claim Vig unless one of them is getting lynched and they need save themselves. So by fake claiming, you're forcing the real vig to cc or town might not believe him when he does later. In a lylo/mylo situation you want as many confirmed players as you can get so a no-lynch without claiming would be preferable as it buys you time and doesn't dictate who scum needs to shoot. Once the game gets late, it would be even more suspicious for Rso to be alive. Obviously it wouldn't have mattered for this game, but it might in others. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
I just started saying that after i rescinded because shining shooting stutters didnt make much sense to me and i thought he was mafia. I also needed a way to explain my play without saying claiming vet as i thought that was still an option at the time. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On April 14 2015 01:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: My top town pick would be Tubesock. He is going way over the top hunting me so he is not likely to be mafia. Am I some kind of threat to mafia? I haven't done almost anything. Except... Tinfoil hat mode online He is doing this on purpose. He makes himself look like town with this but in reality he is part of the mafia. That's thing to remember.  Also, I think HtS said she has played before with Tubesock and saw his tinfoil hat theories. If Tubesock was town that time and now he is mafia, its great way to do again that to act like town  My top scum/(most likely to be) is Stutters695. My earlier post is still valid. I just find him suspicious. Damn, I have to use tinfoil hat more. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
On April 18 2015 06:02 rsoultin wrote: obviously all the people i called stupid or idiotic i didn't mean it <3 prp, oneg, bresh ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/n7UgiOA.gif) | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
why didn't you lynch shining d2 then? @rso | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 18 2015 21:47 prplhz wrote: wait a second why didn't you lynch shining d2 then? @rso honestly? i try to get in a town mindset as much as i can and reacted as i would have in that situation lol >< i wasn't thinking it through. i realized later as i was defending myself with it that that would have absolutely been the best play for us lol well maybe not absolutely since you know town shooting town worked out quite well for us xP but yeah, no way of knowing if he was vet or vig or if i was even right he was blue for sure lol | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 18 2015 22:24 marvellosity wrote: jarjar + rsou were pretty catchable as a pair because jarjar wasn't very crazy (scummy for him) and rsou was never calling him out (so scum together) i sort of said this at some point! On April 17 2015 04:21 prplhz wrote: can you explain again why you made a big point out of wanting to be right on jjb and then not paying attention to him all game? totally has the gist of it, paying too little attention to jjb. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
jjb mentioned it too, prob in the scum qt but maybe just when he called me thinking i thought he was mad at me lol xP him not being a silly goober is his scumtell and i basically ignored him all game lol tbf we really did have schedules where we were like never around at the same time but it was still pretty obvious ^^ | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On April 18 2015 22:24 marvellosity wrote: jarjar + rsou were pretty catchable as a pair because jarjar wasn't very crazy (scummy for him) and rsou was never calling him out (so scum together) I told Artanis this D1 in my coaching qt but was discouraged from making such associative reads. :/ | ||
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