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On February 21 2015 05:00 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2015 00:07 rsoultin wrote:On February 20 2015 17:34 Blazinghand wrote:On February 20 2015 17:32 ritoky wrote:
I just can't see how LS is not scum from his play. he slipped pretty clearly, he manufactured a read that is a direct contradiction, his defense was bad.....there's just so much there...I can't really see myself voting on anyone else at this point, but if you have a better case or equal one then I am up for hearing it. I don't. I'm discusssing what's our best strategy for getting LS Lycnhed today. Do you get what i'm saying? I'm voting LS 100% but how much I write about him... like it might not be optimal for me to actually write a lot of case on him, you get what I'm saying? People are stupid and dont' trust me Blazinghand, is your main reason for scumreading LS that one post about HtS? Because, frankly, I think that's beneath you, and I'm not at all comfortable with Damdred's willingness to call it damning, either. Ritoky's vote analysis has more backing in logic than that, although I'm not sure how statistically sound it is to assume mafia follow each other around like ducklings. There's a lot more statistics and logic to my vote analysis, I just elect to not post it in the thread cuz I have before and people find it unreadable and boring as hell and choose not to read it. I track lynches contributed to, town/mafia voted on, most voted with, when scum vote on partners, first 3 and last 3 on a wagon, and more such things. but I mean simply look at the #s for the day 1 votes, there are (for me) 8 people who are question marks on that vote. 3 of them are on the lead lynch, 3 of them are on the secondary lynch, and 2 are stray voting. generally speaking from my statistics I keep stray voting is a way that mafia easily die late in the game, so many non-afk type mafia tend to avoid it. palmar and slam aren't really the afk type. anyway just by averages alone it would say that there is 1 among each block of voting, but if you bring in the second vote you can see patterns emerge of people voting with eachother, when they move, etc. there's a lot of explaining to it, but suffice it to say that if I look at my statistics when there are split votes mafia very often vote in blocks of 2 or 3, and in consolidated votes can often be found bunched.
if you dont want to, i get it, but please understand that ppl saying things that i cant verify for myself makes me tend to tune out. id actually appreciate the full analysis so i can see where youre coming from. as a sidenote, i think im going to have to reevaluate my read on you as well. im a sucker for appeals to logic lol
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kk that was all the time i had. saw your post ls. if you look town to me after going through all these cases you know ill keep championing you, so do your thing. lol not sure what you were trying to do with that jat case xP
bb in several hours
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Blazinghand
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OK, so all of the dead townies were townreading LS. The only one who wasn't was the one who was shot last night (Robik), by the scumteam.
So, here's one of Robik's, um, last benedictions? Robik was shot N2 but during N1 he was serious. Later one he gives scumreads of LS, prplhz, damdy and rsoultin. HE was, of course, right about damdy.
On February 17 2015 07:13 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 07:07 LightningStrike wrote:On February 17 2015 06:58 Palmar wrote:On February 17 2015 05:53 Town Puppy wrote:
Notable nulls: Palmar, ray, HtS. I just haven't read enough of any of their posts. I still feel like HtS wouldn't fakeclaim miller, and I think 2 Jk, 2 mill, 1 cop is probably legit. So I guess she's town but this is predicated on a yolo read so yeah.
I liked what Palmar said when he posted and I didn't like ray's tone when he posted. But it's weak. Eh.
It's official. I am stuck in some kind of an eternal purgatory where no one will be sure I'm town. Ever. I been townreading you for since I started to see you would do shit on the weekend when normally you CBA to do shit on the weekend :O LYNCH LS TOMORROW. DO NOT FUCKIGN QUESTION IT. JUST DO IT. I MAY NOT BE AROUND, BUT YOU HAVE ONE FUCKING MISSION AND THAT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PERSON DOES NOT SURVIVE TIL TOMORROW. I MAY OR MAY NOT EXPLAIN WHY IN POSTGAME, BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO TRUST THAT THIS READ IS ACCURATE. PALMAR -- IT'S KINDA LIKE THE READ I GAVE ON YOU IN HEAVYWEIGHT. PLEASE JUST FAITH.
On February 20 2015 10:11 IAmRobik wrote:
cause people don't fucking listen to me and it's fucking annoying. I made a raelly really really strong meta case for why rayn was town -- you guys lynched him anyway. Both rayn and i are telling you that VA is town...you insist on trying to lynch him. I said that LS was mafia like 3 fucking days ago, and now that someone made a "real case" people are on board. Like what fucking games are you twits playing
This is his final post. HE wants LS dead. I would like to note (and this is just for you, dead Robik) that Robik never actually writes a case on LS. Times he mentions LS or LightningStrike are always things like "trust me LS is scum" or "I'll explain later" which is annoying as crap.
hmm, if only a confirmed townie had a scumread on LS
well, onto the main show I guess, Slam, here's what happened overnight.
So, LS and ritoky are talking and LS says this:
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 05:32 ritoky wrote:
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explain this in depth please. The non confirmed players are either Mafia or SK and I finding you as either the SK or Mafia by Process of Elimation from all my reads and the confirmed towns were claimed roles or mod confirmed (BH) and then I decided to go meta reading players and elimated but the 5 in the non confirmed pile so that means that you are either A. Mafia or B. Serial Killer. I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary. Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol  I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked. your read is not only bad, but made up. I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS. Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them. so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play? WHAT? Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet. I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them? Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it. I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.
emphasis mine
ritoky replies:
On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
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The non confirmed players are either Mafia or SK and I finding you as either the SK or Mafia by Process of Elimation from all my reads and the confirmed towns were claimed roles or mod confirmed (BH) and then I decided to go meta reading players and elimated but the 5 in the non confirmed pile so that means that you are either A. Mafia or B. Serial Killer. I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary. Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked. your read is not only bad, but made up. I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS. Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them. so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play? WHAT? Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet. I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them? Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it. I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife. still kinda interested in this. she told you this where? cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you? cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.
So, to be clear here, LS is talking about an interaction that never happened. he and HTS never had this discussion in-thread. I prove this:
On February 20 2015 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:Truncated quote: Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife. still kinda interested in this. she told you this where? cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you? cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt. So basically, there's only one time in the ENTIRE thread where HtS replies to lightningstrike about ritoky, and that's this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23771576 talks about ritoky passivity as town vs scum, and his engagmeent with scumreads, with lightningstrike, sepcifically asking about meta and it does not line up because there's no mention DrH or the fact that ritoky is less aggressive. She's asking questions: Show nested quote +On February 17 2015 06:11 Half the Sky wrote:On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia. You're saying he's more passive as town than scum? He's talking a lot about his scumreads, but I don't know if he's not engaging his scumreads because he's unable to. Last I recall his four scumreads were Lian, Breshke, myself and Rayn and none of us are in the US. I think this is a fine reason to lynch both LS and HtS
Now, people are calling this a "scumslip" case, and it's generally well-known that scumslips don't actually exist, and more townies scumslip than scum. However, this isn't the case of accidentally calling someone town or calling someone the gf when you shouldn't be sure of that, it's not some kind of minor slip thing. It's a reference to a conversation. It's not a weirdly worded phrase, it's a deliberate statement. LightningStrike says, "HTS told me X Y Z and ritoky tunnelling this game" when HTS said NO SUCH THING. There's a number of explanations for this, but the most likely is simply that HTS *did* tell him that and he forgot that the interaction didn't happen in-thread.
He first replies with this:
On February 20 2015 10:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 10:16 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:[quote] Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked. your read is not only bad, but made up. I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS. Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them. so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play? WHAT? Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet. I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them? Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it. I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife. still kinda interested in this. she told you this where? cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you? cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt. It's in her filter but I will dig it up now since you asking for this. I;m back guys I forgot to say that I was going out to dinner with my Mom so catching up still. Found it and it was me talking to HTS and which HTS responded to me that's why it might not be in my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=16#309
which is completely unrelated.
then he rplies with this:
On February 20 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 10:21 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 10:18 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 10:16 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
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Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them. so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play? WHAT? Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet. I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them? Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it. I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife. still kinda interested in this. she told you this where? cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you? cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt. It's in her filter but I will dig it up now since you asking for this. I;m back guys I forgot to say that I was going out to dinner with my Mom so catching up still. Found it and it was me talking to HTS and which HTS responded to me that's why it might not be in my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=16#309 what in the holy fuck? this post has 0 to do with anything and responds to FF? you don't even post on this page, the page before it or the page after it. Crap wrong post. Here it is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=89#1762
which I had already debunked. LS's immediate reaction isn't "oh, this is what I'm talking about, you guys misinterperted me", his reaction is just to link us to shit that isn't relevant. Like, this is NOT a case of a wording issue, this is a case of LS thinking a conversation happened in this thread when it did NOT. my opponents will tell you this is a simple scumslip case, but it is not a scumslip case. LS doesn't react how someone would if his wording has been misinterpreted. He didn't say "oh, I wasn't claming HTS said that, she didn't say that; I meant that I thought that" or something like that. No, he MEANT what he wrote and we interpreted him fine.
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You know what I giving up there is no way in hell I wont get lynched. GG WP I guess  YOLO SWAG 420 BLAZE IT! But I really tired and I can't defend myself or make a good case for people to sheep there is no way I can win this for town T_T
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On February 21 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:You know what I giving up there is no way in hell I wont get lynched. GG WP I guess YOLO SWAG 420 BLAZE IT! But I really tired and I can't defend myself or make a good case for people to sheep there is no way I can win this for town T_T
There's still...... 29.75 hours if I'm not mistaken
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On February 21 2015 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:You know what I giving up there is no way in hell I wont get lynched. GG WP I guess YOLO SWAG 420 BLAZE IT! But I really tired and I can't defend myself or make a good case for people to sheep there is no way I can win this for town T_T There's still...... 29.75 hours if I'm not mistaken
Every time I try to talk it's like I'm talking to a brickwall so what is the point? WHAT IS THE POINT?
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Blazinghand
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hts
ritoky
VA
rsoultin
LS
palm
slam
prplhz
bh
superb
FF
so we've got 11 alive - 7 town, 3 scum, 1 SK. assuming we lynch a scum and SK and scum both shoot into town, tomorrow will be 5-2-1. if we lynch scum again it's 3-1-1, and if we lynch scum or SK from there it's 2-1 LYLO
effectively, assuming the SK only shoots into town, and scum only shoots into town, and we also lynch the entire mafia team before lynching the SK, we are currently at lylo.
Now, this is the worst best-case-scenario: it assumes we ALWAYS lynch scum, but lynch in the worst order, and that scum and SK always shoot into town. IF we lynch the SK today (unlikely) or when we're at 5-2-1 (possible) we end up at 4-2 MYLO instead of 3-1-1 LYLO in a couple days. If scum shoots the SK or the SK shoots into scum again, we potentially could end up at 6-2 or 6-1-1 tomorrow if we lynch scum today, or we could fail to lynch scum and end up at 6-3 or 6-2-1 (6-2-1 progresses to 4-1-1 then to 3-1 MYLO). So basically depending on how shots go, we might get another shot at it, but we MUST lynch scum. Even if we lynch the SK last, even if the SK and mafia only ever shoot into town, we are still fine as long as we always lynch scum.
In any case, if we do mislynch today somehow (I'm talking to you LS; if you're town pay attention this part. You're not town, but I always extend this courtesy) we're actually still not out of the game. we go into tonight at 6-3-1 and assuming scum and SK shoot into us, we come out of it at 4-3-1. At this point it's very unlikely, but plausible, for town to win. SK will want to lynch scum, and if that happens we go into the night 4-2-1. if the SK shoots at random, he's got a 33% chance of hitting scum and dropping us into 3-1-1 which is LYLO for town.
So, I guess what I'm getting at here LS is that if you get lynched and flip town, town doesn't automatically lose. We have a very strong chance of losing, but we don't lose automatically. We can still win in the right circumstance,s and those circumstances rely on being able to lynch scum every day for the rest of teh game.
That's where you come in, LS. If you flip town, I promise to read your filter and push your cases. As you die, I will treat you with respect and engage you on reads. Leave behind knoweldge for us, use your coming confirmation (in 24 hours) as a scalpel to cleave apart the scum.
AS a townie, you still win if you're dead and the town wins.
Be a man and write cases, even if they wont' save you. There's more to life than surviving, sometimes you gotta live.
If you're really town: Catch scum and win the game for us, even in death.
If you're scum, though, feel free to complain, pretend to be tired, and slink away into the darkness. I won't mind.
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Blazinghand
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On February 21 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2015 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 21 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:You know what I giving up there is no way in hell I wont get lynched. GG WP I guess YOLO SWAG 420 BLAZE IT! But I really tired and I can't defend myself or make a good case for people to sheep there is no way I can win this for town T_T There's still...... 29.75 hours if I'm not mistaken Every time I try to talk it's like I'm talking to a brickwall so what is the point? WHAT IS THE POINT?
I am willing to engage you on topics of conversation and, except for the part where I push you and vote you and get you lynched, I will treat you like a confirmed town player. Ignore the others, if you must, but if you flip town, that doesn't lose the game for us, if we play perfectly and the stars align.
So, from your perspective, you're conftown in about a day. Your words carry weight. You're smart, dedicated, and soon you will be utterly trustworthy. Even better, you have one of the best players in this game here to help you think and bounce ideas off of. Let's get to work.
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On February 21 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2015 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 21 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:You know what I giving up there is no way in hell I wont get lynched. GG WP I guess YOLO SWAG 420 BLAZE IT! But I really tired and I can't defend myself or make a good case for people to sheep there is no way I can win this for town T_T There's still...... 29.75 hours if I'm not mistaken Every time I try to talk it's like I'm talking to a brickwall so what is the point? WHAT IS THE POINT?
Helping town! If you don't care about winning then idc, you just said you have reason to believe slam is mafia and that you deduced this from his last scum game's filter. You've already laid the foundation for a case and you give up instead? I don't get it. Yeah, mafia is at times frustrating or stressful or tiring but what I meant when I said you have 29 hours is that you have time to calm down, have a sleep, play a couple games of LoL to clear your head and come back. Giving up now is just. ugh.
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On February 21 2015 08:26 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:On February 21 2015 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 21 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:You know what I giving up there is no way in hell I wont get lynched. GG WP I guess YOLO SWAG 420 BLAZE IT! But I really tired and I can't defend myself or make a good case for people to sheep there is no way I can win this for town T_T There's still...... 29.75 hours if I'm not mistaken Every time I try to talk it's like I'm talking to a brickwall so what is the point? WHAT IS THE POINT? I am willing to engage you on topics of conversation and, except for the part where I push you and vote you and get you lynched, I will treat you like a confirmed town player. Ignore the others, if you must, but if you flip town, that doesn't lose the game for us, if we play perfectly and the stars align. So, from your perspective, you're conftown in about a day. Your words carry weight. You're smart, dedicated, and soon you will be utterly trustworthy. Even better, you have one of the best players in this game here to help you think and bounce ideas off of. Let's get to work.
Okay had you played with Slam when he was Mafia or remember how played he in Slytherin? If so do you think he's playing his Mafia meta?
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Oh cool BH is on the same page.
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On February 21 2015 08:32 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:On February 21 2015 08:13 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 21 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:You know what I giving up there is no way in hell I wont get lynched. GG WP I guess YOLO SWAG 420 BLAZE IT! But I really tired and I can't defend myself or make a good case for people to sheep there is no way I can win this for town T_T There's still...... 29.75 hours if I'm not mistaken Every time I try to talk it's like I'm talking to a brickwall so what is the point? WHAT IS THE POINT? Helping town! If you don't care about winning then idc, you just said you have reason to believe slam is mafia and that you deduced this from his last scum game's filter. You've already laid the foundation for a case and you give up instead? I don't get it. Yeah, mafia is at times frustrating or stressful or tiring but what I meant when I said you have 29 hours is that you have time to calm down, have a sleep, play a couple games of LoL to clear your head and come back. Giving up now is just. ugh.
I didn't really have a solid foundation tbh it was just my own thoughts and having autism makes it hard for me to give out my thoughts the way I want to present them :|
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If you don't have a good foundation, why did you pick slam as your target, then?
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Blazinghand
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Hmm, I like where you're going here with slam, to an extent. I'm actually really interested in this, as I have a strong townread on slam this game! I naturally don't question your motivations much as you are conftown, but let's talk reasoning. I'm uh, not sure what exactly you're trying to point me at here in slytherin mafia. I do notice that in Slytherin mafia, slam isn't actually a huge pusher, but he does make some votes. In general though, yeah, his play in slytherin is definitely laconic. I'm not sure his play THIS game really matches up though, you know? Let me show you some of his stuff from this game that has no comparison from slytherin:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23763674
in this post, Slam is actually pretty clear. He shred's TP's post with like, one lucid sentence. Not bad. Note that he also turns out to be right as there's double JK this game.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23773965
this and his two posts after it show some critical thought that I'd not have expected from scum slam.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23778007
though he's wrong here it's a noble attempt.
I guess also part of it is that Slam acts like this as town, too, you know? Like yeah he's fooling around a lot but he IS making plays, compared with slytherin where he makes few.
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BH since you seem to be dealing with LS more handily than I, is there any legwork you want done? I can dive a filter or two or something.
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On February 21 2015 08:36 Blazinghand wrote:Hmm, I like where you're going here with slam, to an extent. I'm actually really interested in this, as I have a strong townread on slam this game! I naturally don't question your motivations much as you are conftown, but let's talk reasoning. I'm uh, not sure what exactly you're trying to point me at here in slytherin mafia. I do notice that in Slytherin mafia, slam isn't actually a huge pusher, but he does make some votes. In general though, yeah, his play in slytherin is definitely laconic. I'm not sure his play THIS game really matches up though, you know? Let me show you some of his stuff from this game that has no comparison from slytherin: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23763674in this post, Slam is actually pretty clear. He shred's TP's post with like, one lucid sentence. Not bad. Note that he also turns out to be right as there's double JK this game. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23773965this and his two posts after it show some critical thought that I'd not have expected from scum slam. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23778007though he's wrong here it's a noble attempt. I guess also part of it is that Slam acts like this as town, too, you know? Like yeah he's fooling around a lot but he IS making plays, compared with slytherin where he makes few.
I think I just got paranoia again from just playing a game with Slam being Mafia >.> I tend to get paranoia when I just played with the player when they were Mafia. But I think prpl or however you spell his seems mafia and I might just build my own case on him but warning I only had 7 hours of sleep >.>
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Canada11355 Posts
How.. how much sleep do you normally get? Wanna trade?
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On February 21 2015 08:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
How.. how much sleep do you normally get? Wanna trade?
I normally get 8 to 9 but I stayed up till 1:00 am CST and woke up 8:00 am CST but I also didn't get any caffeine today either that's not helping at all >.>
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Canada11355 Posts
Ok ok no coffee is understandable. Carry on.
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Blazinghand
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On February 21 2015 08:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
BH since you seem to be dealing with LS more handily than I, is there any legwork you want done? I can dive a filter or two or something.
I can handle the slam meta read. If you could do a reread on palmar that would be awesome
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