EPTHe has done nothing to advance town and looked more like posting to avoid suspicion rather than posting to find scum.
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Oatsmaster
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He has done nothing to advance town and looked more like posting to avoid suspicion rather than posting to find scum. | ||
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rsoultin
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Hopeless1der
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Oatsmaster
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Breshke
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On December 04 2014 14:04 rsoultin wrote: Simply put my theory is based on the assumption that you are town meat and that scum isnt dumb enough to bpoth all vote for you and all play shenanigans with damdred end of day 2. So hopeless or bats as scum not both. I think you are looking to much into votes which happened at the very start of the day. Why would scum not vote for meat there weather he is town or mafia. If he is mafia they take the vote off him and put it on someone else (a town). This does them no good because now they are both linked and suspicion goes on both of them If he is town they take the vote off him and put it on another town. This just draws suspicion to them in my opinion because I doubt they could have come up with a good reason to accuse a different townie of being scum I think the fact that meat was voted by everyone there says nothing about his alignment. Also meat wasn't someone who did shennannies with damdred at EoD2 so i think you need to not give him a pass. | ||
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rsoultin
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Scum dies. That's good enough for me. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On December 04 2014 13:10 Oatsmaster wrote: Sl wasn't killed cause he was right, he was killed because he wasn't a mislynch opportunity I'm not sure why you said this Oats. No one claimed or implied otherwise. I'm simply not pretending that it was anything other than my convincing the two through my arguments and the fact that they believe me to be town that we should go with bats for the lynch. HTS all but said he would follow my lead before he left today -shrugs- | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On December 04 2014 15:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Who gives a shit that he doesn't "implicate" someone rsoultin? Scum dies. That's good enough for me. Because, and you are not a fool so you already know this, a scum death puts off lylo but doesn't stop it. I'm more or less the only one (though bats did intimate that a scum meat might have you as a partner) who thinks you may be scum. Is it such a terrible thing to prove me wrong? lol So who do you think is scum, oats? You said not meat earlier. You keep pushing hopeless. There has to be a third. If it's bats, what's the problem? Unless you're afraid of what will happen when he flips scum... | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
I would lynch meat over bats at this point though. Bats my new null buddy. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
A mislynch today puts that at 3 town to 2 mafia. We are no better off today than we were yesterday. And people want to lynch a coin flip. Or gamble on both options yesterday being scum...2 out of 9. Possible, but highly improbable, especially with an early vote buss. Explain to me, please, breshke, what the purpose of an early vote buss would be for mafia? Later on in the day it makes sense. These votes came in within the first hour or so, one right after the other. We miss we're at lylo tomorrow. Who do we vote off of hopeless not flipping? Bats? Oats? Meat? Who do we vote if he does flip? What does hopeless tell us? He's been so afk we can't really analyze him even if he flips scum. Town missing today is mafia's best hope. Because they only have to misdirect us one more time. Town missing today is mafia's best hope. Why would they buss? If your doubts are all pushing hopeless why are you falling into line? We get it right...we start tomorrow at 4:1. We mislynch it goes 2:1. You really want to start tomorrow, either in lylo or mylo, with a flip that doesn't give us any further information? It's not enough just to get scum. But I've made my stance clear, and I'm not going to keep pounding it in. There are five town here today. Hopefully we can get this one right. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On December 04 2014 16:05 rsoultin wrote: We are currently at 5 town to 2 mafia. A mislynch today puts that at 3 town to 2 mafia. We are no better off today than we were yesterday. And people want to lynch a coin flip. Or gamble on both options yesterday being scum...2 out of 9. Possible, but highly improbable, especially with an early vote buss. Explain to me, please, breshke, what the purpose of an early vote buss would be for mafia? Later on in the day it makes sense. These votes came in within the first hour or so, one right after the other. We miss we're at lylo tomorrow. Who do we vote off of hopeless not flipping? Bats? Oats? Meat? Who do we vote if he does flip? What does hopeless tell us? He's been so afk we can't really analyze him even if he flips scum. Town missing today is mafia's best hope. Because they only have to misdirect us one more time. Town missing today is mafia's best hope. Why would they buss? If your doubts are all pushing hopeless why are you falling into line? We get it right...we start tomorrow at 4:1. We mislynch it goes 2:1. You really want to start tomorrow, either in lylo or mylo, with a flip that doesn't give us any further information? It's not enough just to get scum. But I've made my stance clear, and I'm not going to keep pounding it in. There are five town here today. Hopefully we can get this one right. An early vote bus makes them fit in with town. they see people they know are town voting their partner, lots of them so they do it in turn so they dont stand out. What if bats is town though rsoultin? Do you want to go into lylo with a coinflip? Hopeless has promised to pick up before EoD so this isnt like a final thing but at this stage of the game i cant not vote someone who has done literally nothing other than try to start a push on someone and didn't explain their thought process at all when it was obvious the push wasnt going to stick. Also i think you misunderstand me. I agree with your bats read and i have also been scared of the paranoid world of bats and oats. It feels very convenient that bats is rising up oats's town list but there is every chance he legitimately reads him as town. Also if you think Oats is mafia why doesn't he hammer meat (who you think is town) yesterday sending us into lylo. For now i think if you think oats is mafia you have to think meat is his partner. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On December 04 2014 16:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Meat was looking around in sl's filter so I said that yeah, mafia didn't kill sl to cover up sl's reads. Fair enough. I told him to look through the night posts to make his own judgments, however, rather than giving him a play-by-play tainted with my biases. But I'm super paranoid.  | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Let's say we lynch bats today. Regardless of his alignment, we still lynch hopeless tmr. Same with meat. So why not we give us a better chance at lylo by not bringing a coinflip in your words, into lylo. I think he's super scum | ||
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Oatsmaster
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rsoultin
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So it's paranoia, flat-out. I want something to work with along with the wiggle room. Hopeless tells us nothing because he's been afk and analysis will mean jack shit. Meat opens a can of worms if he flips scum, and tells us nothing if he flips town. A town bats makes a scum hopeless way more likely, and all but clears oats. I don't like being paranoid lol. I want the question answered. If he flips scum we have wiggle room to check oats for ourselves. And I do not like how he flipped from meat being town to meat being scum overnight, so he could seemingly buddy up to bats. What has bats said since last night that makes you read him null now, Oats? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Nothing other than the ls sheeping shit, and he sheeping me. I wouldn't lynch him before meat or hopeless at the current state of the game. | ||
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rsoultin
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
Oats was one of the first to switch to meat and unlike sicklucker who switched before him oats actually gave a reason. If you read through oats actually tells people to switch to LS as well. | ||
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