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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 03 2014 23:48 GMT
#1861
On December 04 2014 08:47 rsoultin wrote:
Ty...I'm not sure where to find these on the site. If you (or anyone else) would be willing to link me to the database with the games you've participated in that would be great.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 03 2014 23:56 GMT
#1862
rsoultin i think we lynch hopeless today.

His last post was about SL and was asking people what they thought about his posts. He was obviously trying to make this lead somewhere yet has failed to follow up on it. This is probably the best lynch for today.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2014 00:03 GMT
#1863
yeahhhhhhh thats right breshke.

##vote Hopeless
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2014 00:04 GMT
#1864
Why did you change your mind btw?
It looks like you were leading up to lynch bats.
No gg, No skill.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 04 2014 00:13 GMT
#1865
I actually looked at hopelesses filter for one.

Also if bats is mafia i would think it weird him telling us to lynch meat and if meat flips town oats is probably town because right now there is a strong towncircle well at least for me of rsoultin, myself and HTS. If meat flips town and he has provided logic that saying that he would then think oats is town the only two players left is bats and hopeless and i think bats would be more aware of this is mafia. Although one could say he was setting himself up to scumread HTW with the following post

On December 04 2014 07:17 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 07:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Rasputin, give me a shout if you want me to change my vote.

##vote batsnacks


This is the second time you've been more confident in rsoul alignment than your own? 0_o


Also i think it is legitimately scummy to point something out and ask people to comment on it and then to not post again? Like hopeless obviously thought he was on to something so even if he was busy you think he would try and follow up.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 04 2014 00:16 GMT
#1866
Obviously if meat is bats partner then what i said means nothing
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 00:20 GMT
#1867
I can see your point, Breshke. I'll go through the threads and see what is there.

The other purpose for that post could be to take suspicion off Oats if bats and Oats are working together, though, so going to leave my vote where it is. Could buy the whole I don't think thing, but I'm still not good with policy lynches over scum reads. So I'll go digging as you suggested bats. Give me some reads while I do so, will you? Hope is just one player.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 00:43 GMT
#1868
Yo, Breshke, you may want to take a look at bats' filters, too. I wouldn't exactly call him inactive as mafia. Gonna pop in on his town threads.

Bats, you're probably going to need more than this as your defense, just sayin'. You've also used the argument about not lynching people active in the thread over people with small filters before, too.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 04 2014 00:49 GMT
#1869
Don't get me wrong I still think bats is probably mafia i just think hopeless is the lynch today. I don't see bats not getting lynched this game.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 00:49 GMT
#1870
EBWOP: Though you do seem to be generally more active when vanilla than mafia, that's true @bats
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 00:52 GMT
#1871
Ah. Lol. Okay. Yeah, see my thought process is hopeless and bats probably aren't mafia together, so I was going with my stronger scum read. Also...I have a sneaking suspicion about oats that I'd like to investigate. Bats flips scum we've got wiggle room. If not it almost clears oats for me...because its oats' almost ignoring bats as possible scum that makes me itch about him. That and definitive statements he's always making.

Maybe Oats is always that sure of himself though.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 04 2014 01:02 GMT
#1872
On December 04 2014 09:52 rsoultin wrote:
Ah. Lol. Okay. Yeah, see my thought process is hopeless and bats probably aren't mafia together, so I was going with my stronger scum read. Also...I have a sneaking suspicion about oats that I'd like to investigate. Bats flips scum we've got wiggle room. If not it almost clears oats for me...because its oats' almost ignoring bats as possible scum that makes me itch about him. That and definitive statements he's always making.

Maybe Oats is always that sure of himself though.


oats. thinks. I'm. mafia.

You didn't read any of my games, did you?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-04 01:12:06
December 04 2014 01:12 GMT
#1873
Vote Count

batsnacks (2): Half the Sky, rsoultin
Hopeless1der (2): Breshke, Oatsmaster
Meatpudding (1): batsnacks

Not Voting (2): Meatpudding, Hopeless1der

Currently, batsnacks is set to be lynched. Day 4 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 04 2014 01:13 GMT
#1874
On December 03 2014 21:57 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 19:50 meatpudding wrote:
What is the point of this? Half his reads are null anyway. Is there anything you can tell from here or any reason to repost it now?


Read this AND the last thing I posted on his record. Now that we know LS is scum, I'm re-reading everything he's done and put out there. His list of threes tells me he seemed like he wanted to take you out for awhile, which makes me reconsider you as scum, second page, since all the reads are together, he probably didn't want to indicate he was possibly aligned with anyone. It's always good to go back and re-examine someone when their role is revealed and that's so that we aren't missing anything. I am also posting such that if anyone else here had a different opinion on this, they can say something on it.

Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 19:52 meatpudding wrote:
On December 03 2014 13:00 sicklucker wrote:
Heres the only situation you should vote breske out. If theirs one mafia left and its the roleblocker. Even then im not saying you should do it but thats the only situation where it makes sense.


That makes absolutely no sense. Any scum could have claimed not just the rb.


Context. If there's one mafia left and it's the roleblocker...the key word here is AND. Even then I would take this a step further and say that if it's one scum left, we know it's RB, and the people left are what we think are the towncircle. Either way his situation he describes is that we know what specifics are being revealed as a scum goes.

You read the N3 post right? It revealed LS as a goon, so we have one goon and the RB left.


This still doesn't make sense. IF mafia didn't use the rb, then the rb could have asked someone else to claim.
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 04 2014 01:15 GMT
#1875
On December 03 2014 23:32 batsnacks wrote:
Dudes just lynch hopeless tomorrow. You can always lynch me the next day I'm not going anywhere after how hard scum has been pushing my mislynch all game.


Why is it necessarily scum that has been pushing for your ml, do you think?
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 04 2014 01:16 GMT
#1876
On December 03 2014 22:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 13:02 rsoultin wrote:
Bats reads super scummy to me. Hope is a null. He did try to get me to play ball with him end of day 2, however, which is odd to me for scum.


Damn quote boxes.

I'll be completely honest, Rasputin, I might sound crazy here, but I just haven't been impressed with Meat's posting at all this game. Maybe it's inexperience, I think we're all learning. But even as a beginner myself I've had a difficult time following where he's trying to go with his posts half the time. Although now, I'm not as convinced he is scum after re-reading LS's posts.

There are eight alive right now. I'm good on you, Breshke, SL, Rasputin

We have Meat, Hopeless, Oats and Bats left.

Meat could be scum, but it's unlikely, though I will admit I'm not sold on an argument yet as to why he's not. He did say he's bad at his defense, EoD D3.

Hopeless is a complete tossup.

Bats is the clear scum for me. I think if we take him out, that will reveal all we need to know about Oats.

So in order: Bats, Hopeless and a tossup between Oats and Meat.


What would a bats flip tell you about oats? If bats flips, to me that would suggest that oats is a team, and that they were staging a bus. Can you confirm if this is what you are trying to say.
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 04 2014 01:28 GMT
#1877
Sorry I didn't post reads during the night phase. I was pretty happy that at this point I wouldn't be shot. No problem with updating what I have.

Bats has been under close scrutiny since D1, started by oats and having varying degrees of success. Though he never acted like scum that had been caught. He's been reading slightly town to me, at least not scum at all. I'm bothered by his night posts and late day posts, they are null at best. I can say rasputin hts and the late sl throwing their opinions around but bats is just trying to counter without pushing too much. So with that I can see some reasoning behind the swing to him, I think a case could be made for bats today.

Knowing the alignment of ls is a big step up here. It's been repeated that ls was sheeping bats, and that would not have been a super bright move for a team. From that alone I would say the ls flip was in bats favour.

Maybe he isn't doing the most out of anybody but at least he has been doing something.

On November 28 2014 16:42 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 28 2014 16:31 batsnacks wrote:
On November 28 2014 16:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 28 2014 16:20 batsnacks wrote:
On November 28 2014 16:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 28 2014 15:51 batsnacks wrote:
Oats penny for your thoughts on slam/meat

i told you what I thought about slam earlier.

There was some shit day 1 that I didnt like about meat.
Damn i gotta look but i did mention something day 1.
And his absence kinda doesnt help.

You did say repeatedly day 1 that you didn't like meat. You said you didn't like the content of his list post and some other stuff I think. Your reads are consistent and reasonable for the most part I'm not looking for holes or anything. I just want to know what you think about lynching meat vs lynching slam.

way more for meat, his stuff has some thoughts meaning alignment indicative. None of slams stuff is alignment indicative.

What do you think about rsoultin? I have never once thought this game that he is interested in finding scum.

I like that rsoultin doesn't think I'm mafia but that's all really.

In retrospect he only started not thinking I'm mafia after I called him out on something, so he could just be taking the path of least resistance, which would be scummy.

can you be a bit more solid on your reads? All of your shit is like "eh maybe kinda looks like, maybe maybe maybe".


I'm having a hard time reading people in this game. I can't tell the difference between who's confused, misguided, mafia, or afk.


This actually sums up my thoughts as well. It kind of explains to me why bats has been going after everybody without going after anybody. It's more of a feeling that he is not scum rather than that he is town. (usually) He's been asking good questions but only making one-liner reads and not putting forward any convincing cases. I think he is just unsure of where to go. So now is the time to step it up. We're on a roll so prove to me that you are town and let's lynch scum before I decide to vote you myself.
Be excellent to each other.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 04 2014 01:28 GMT
#1878
On December 04 2014 09:20 rsoultin wrote:
I can see your point, Breshke. I'll go through the threads and see what is there.

The other purpose for that post could be to take suspicion off Oats if bats and Oats are working together, though, so going to leave my vote where it is. Could buy the whole I don't think thing, but I'm still not good with policy lynches over scum reads. So I'll go digging as you suggested bats. Give me some reads while I do so, will you? Hope is just one player.

come on, stop associating me with him. You have like 0 evidence.
No gg, No skill.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 04 2014 01:30 GMT
#1879
So far I'm with voting hopeless. I can't remember what he said that I thought was scummy, I guess it was more about the way he said it. I'll take another look at yesterday because he hasn't posted much in the night. Even though slam only came on once or twice I still had a scum lean on him so I'll take a good look.
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 04 2014 01:39 GMT
#1880
On December 01 2014 11:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
You have 2 pages in like 3 days.
Thats afk/lurking.

Come on Hopeless, try harder pls.

But i dont wanna. meat is so clearly scum, cant i just coast another day?


This is a little bit of sarcasm, but isn't he just pushing the easy lynch instead of making a case? Was the same coasting tactic as ls used.
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