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I've been trying to get this "sdsdsdsdsdsdsd" but end up only getting "sdddddddddd". Yet i have a mechanical keyboard (SteelSeries 6Gv2). Only i'm using linux and it uses a USB port.
Should i put it on a PS/2 port ? supposedly i'd get real nkro, but how is it related to the fact that you 2 keys pressed will effectively output an alternated sequence ?
I've been googling for quite a while, but i'm afraid i miss the right search words (nkro not being useful here).
So JaKaTaK, do you use your keyboards on windows in a PS/2 port ?
Other question : it seems that using a macro on special keyboard (doing more than one action) is bannable. Now if i set the macro "Backspace+V", it's two actions. How is using a special keyboard allowing this not bannable and setting a macro doing it bannable ? (since it produces the exact same output right ?)
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Other question : it seems that using a macro on special keyboard (doing more than one action) is bannable. Now if i set the macro "Backspace+V", it's two actions. How is using a special keyboard allowing this not bannable and setting a macro doing it bannable ? (since it produces the exact same output right ?)
The Blizzard rule is one key for one action. Setting a macro to press two keys (or alternating two keys) is ban-able while pressing those two keys so that they repeat is difficult and a skill which someone can get right or wrong (as you have noticed). Pressing one button is a lot easier.
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I use USB. Works on my Razer BW TE and my Das Ultimate Stealth 
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Ok, so after extensive testing, here's the answer for those interested (Rapid Fire Inject Technique = RFIT) :
1) Tested under windows with a Logilink 1$ keyboard (USB) : double key repeat works every time for all keys combinations i tried (fgfgfgfgfgfgfg etc...). So this keyboard works 100% for the RFIT.
= PS/2 is definetly not required for the RFIT under Windows
2) Tested under Windows with the SteelSeries 6Gv2 (USB) and after a lot of testing around, "fgfgfgfg" and "öäöäöäöäöä" work but nothing near as reliably as with the 1$ keyboard mentionned in 1). Also, i could never get ghghghgh (only ghhhhhhh). It's like it's more precise, and makes it harder to push the 2 keys at the exact same time.
= the SteelSeries 6Gv2 is hardly compatible with RFIT. (very unreliable, especially under stress in a real game)
3) Tested under Linux, neither my 1$ keyboard, nor my SteelSeries 6Gv2 can get a double key repeat, ever. Be it USB or PS/2 (both tested).
= the RFIT *cannot work* under Linux (both USB and PS/2 won't work). (aside from some Xorg hacks i'm not in the mood to look at right now)
On November 17 2014 12:54 MilExo wrote:
The Blizzard rule is one key for one action. Setting a macro to press two keys (or alternating two keys) is ban-able while pressing those two keys so that they repeat is difficult and a skill which someone can get right or wrong (as you have noticed). Pressing one button is a lot easier.
Following this logic, if by some magic i can make "AltGr+M" translate into "Backspace+V" through a keyboard macro, than it's 2 keys pressed for 2 keys pressed right ? i feel like all this is nearing sophism : i read that the double repeat key behaviour is actually a windows bug, not supposed to happen. And it certainly is an unfair advantage to the ones using windows + the right, allowed keyboard.
Btw, "pressing those two keys so that they repeat is difficult" is not true : as i tested, i noticed that with the right keyboard and the right OS, it works 100% of the time.
On November 17 2014 14:20 JaKaTaKSc2 wrote:I use USB. Works on my Razer BW TE and my Das Ultimate Stealth
Thanks for your videos and your great input overall ! and yeah, as i found out, USB works...
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does huk use the rapid fire warp in ? his warp ins are really fast
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Almost all pro protoss players use rapid fire warp-in, even many korean players.
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it's hilarious that people think even using keyboard macro "is bannable" although it's technically impossible to do. What do you expect blizzard to do? writing a key logger?
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How is it possible to bind more than 1 hotkey to the "choose ability or AI Target"?
Grubby gave me this command, but when i add it to my hotkey file it doesn t change anything.
TargetChoose=LeftMouseButton,Z,S
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you don't want to add the command, but edit the one already in your .SC2Hotkeys file.
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Is there any way to use rapid fire warp in with default hotkey setup? I don't think I can switch to the core or anything at this stage. Too much muscle memory already used on my own hotkeys.
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On November 25 2014 23:58 TheWisp wrote:
it's hilarious that people think even using keyboard macro "is bannable" although it's technically impossible to do. What do you expect blizzard to do? writing a key logger?
Maybe not. I will use my macros to say "gl hf" and "gg" (because with the core and a tiltet keyboard, it sucks to chat)
But that is hardly the point. A crime is a crime, regardless of whether you are caught or not. There might be a way to maphack, without beeing caught, is that ok then?
Blizzard considers it cheating (as do I), therefore, if you do it, you have a small p*enis ;-)
btw. Are you sure there is no way for blizzard to know, besides a keylogger? I am not...
If you open a game in SClight or similar, you can see every command that has been given. Who knows, what data is stored by SC2?
On December 11 2014 14:12 Ashent wrote:
Is there any way to use rapid fire warp in with default hotkey setup? I don't think I can switch to the core or anything at this stage. Too much muscle memory already used on my own hotkeys.
You can use it in any hotkey setup, you just have to
Bind an alternate to "Choose Abilily or AI target" that matches another command (such as spawn larva).
whether or not it will cause a conflict in some cases is a different story. You have to play around, a bit or use a completely unused key for that.
Btw. I only use the rapid injects now if i am sure, i have 1 queen per hatch and they are right next to it. For example, before I plan to attack I make sure they are. that way, I can inject during the attack, without loosing out on micro much.
The other times, i use the basecam method with double clicking my rapid fire key, instead of holding it down. Works a charm.
I had very bad experience with using that method after beeing attacked. maybe I should put the queens on hold command...?(should use that more often anyway)
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hm, what's the way to bind more than two hotkeys? (like, I want to be able to rapid fire both creep spread and infested terrans, how do I do it?)
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On December 24 2014 03:10 Alchemik wrote:
hm, what's the way to bind more than two hotkeys? (like, I want to be able to rapid fire both creep spread and infested terrans, how do I do it?)
You have to exit starcraft and edit the hotkey file manually.
Find this folder:
C:\Users\YOUR_USER_NAME\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts\LONG_NUMBER\Hotkeys
Backup then open whichever .SC2Hotkeys file you use in notepad (with SC2 closed).
And find the line;
TargetChoose=LeftMouseButton
And add any keys you wish to use for rapid fire, my line is;
TargetChoose=LeftMouseButton,A,S,D,W
A,S,D cover all my units special abilities (mostly). So AutoTurret, Point Defence, Seeker Missle, Sniper, EMP. W is my key for call down mule.
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I am trying to set up multiple alternates but when I go to access my profile's hot key file, it says it can't be accessed. So I opened it through notepad manually and got some of the text but almost all of it is missing, including the section needed for setting up rapid warp in. Anyone else have this problem?
EDIT: Just read the above comment, I might have had my client running when I did this. Whoops.
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2 problems:
A) I can't find where to edit my hotkey file for more than one additional rapid fire key. I can find the hotkey file, but there's only a few lines there (the things I changed), but not the command I'm looking for. Can I put it in there? Where?
B) When I use the rapid fire, my keyboard (G6v2 Steelseries) will make 1 click, wait half a second, after that, rapid fire starts. It is not in the standard windows setting. Can anybody point me in the right direction for that?
tyty♥
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A) add a single alternate in game, and TargetChoose= will appear in the .SC2Hotkeys file
B) not sure what you're asking here. Your keyboard is overriding your windows settings?
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On January 15 2015 06:28 SC2Toastie wrote:
B) When I use the rapid fire, my keyboard (G6v2 Steelseries) will make 1 click, wait half a second, after that, rapid fire starts. It is not in the standard windows setting. Can anybody point me in the right direction for that?
tyty♥
Something to do with the keyboard repeat rate? The function key and button combo on the keyboard should increase or decrease it.
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On January 15 2015 08:17 JaKaTaKSc2 wrote:
A) add a single alternate in game, and TargetChoose= will appear in the .SC2Hotkeys file
B) not sure what you're asking here. Your keyboard is overriding your windows settings?
B)
When you push and hold a button (a), it goes:
a <slight pause> aaaaaaaaaaa
I think he wants to change the slight pause.
Might be interesting to fiddle arround with it. It sometimes feels very long, until the rapid fire starts, but it might cause problems, if you make it too short...
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On January 15 2015 18:40 Wildbuddha wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 08:17 JaKaTaKSc2 wrote:
A) add a single alternate in game, and TargetChoose= will appear in the .SC2Hotkeys file
B) not sure what you're asking here. Your keyboard is overriding your windows settings? B) When you push and hold a button (a), it goes: a <slight pause> aaaaaaaaaaa I think he wants to change the slight pause. Might be interesting to fiddle arround with it. It sometimes feels very long, until the rapid fire starts, but it might cause problems, if you make it too short...
Yes, that's what I mean.
For example, when rapid firing, I can spam 16 Infested Terrans at a line, and the speed of it makes it so there's one ball of 15 ITs forming and the first one is slightly ahead, if that makes sense. It is the Keyboard Repeat Delay in Windows Setting, but I put that on the lowest setting. I was wondering if there were other methods.
EDI: It's under keyboard properties.
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For those who got qwwwww instead of qwqwqwqwqwqw:
Just google: "Keyboard King"
In the programm u have to uncheck the buttons u will need.
Glhf with it.
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