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your Country52797 Posts
On July 06 2014 12:32 Superbanana wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:27 The_Templar wrote:On July 06 2014 12:25 jakethesnake wrote:On July 06 2014 12:25 The_Templar wrote: I just realized that this falls into line with the templar curse, although much more severe than usual -.- What is this curse? There are too many to keep track of at this point. Every time I assume, without any evidence, that something about a player is bad, whether it's some aspect of their play or their overall ability, the opposite becomes true. I assumed that Pigbaby was bad. Thanks for all your hard work assuring Pigbaby's and Scarlett's sucess. Please, always root for terrans to lose. I think you want me to root for non-terran to lose unless I'm misreading your post.
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HyuN's ZvP lately has been focused on Ling/Roach/Muta with Melee and Carapace I haven't seen him pull out the Roach/Hydra/Viper composition in a while.
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On July 06 2014 12:34 PhoenixVoid wrote: HyuN's ZvP lately has been focused on Ling/Roach/Muta with Melee and Carapace I haven't seen him pull out the Roach/Hydra/Viper composition in a while. If Pigbaby's capable of being defensive, which of the two styles would be favourable?
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On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote: Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose. You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation. Been practicing on his own for 2 and a half months, but hey I guess he kept the same mentality
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On July 06 2014 12:34 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:32 Superbanana wrote:On July 06 2014 12:27 The_Templar wrote:On July 06 2014 12:25 jakethesnake wrote:On July 06 2014 12:25 The_Templar wrote: I just realized that this falls into line with the templar curse, although much more severe than usual -.- What is this curse? There are too many to keep track of at this point. Every time I assume, without any evidence, that something about a player is bad, whether it's some aspect of their play or their overall ability, the opposite becomes true. I assumed that Pigbaby was bad. Thanks for all your hard work assuring Pigbaby's and Scarlett's sucess. Please, always root for terrans to lose. I think you want me to root for non-terran to lose unless I'm misreading your post. I usually want terran wins, but there are many exceptions. edit: The pic is amusing
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United States23455 Posts
On July 06 2014 12:36 TheFish7 wrote: This is well done.
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On July 06 2014 12:36 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote: Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose. You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation. Been practicing on his own for 2 and a half months, but hey I guess he kept the same mentality I would hope that the mentality wouldn't decay after two and a half months.
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On July 06 2014 12:36 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:36 Yorkie wrote:On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote: Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose. You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation. Been practicing on his own for 2 and a half months, but hey I guess he kept the same mentality I would hope that the mentality wouldn't decay after two and a half months. I'm just saying, some players need a coach in their ear or a team house environment with practice partners to stay on top of their preparation and practice. Pigbaby seems like a good self motivator
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You know, Taeja is becoming a bit like Yellow.
Now before you start telling me I'm wrong, remember that in addition to winning a lot of silvers, Yellow was known as the Special Events King. He wouldn't win the OSL or the MSL, but he won a lot of other events. That's actually kind of the situation that Taeja is in. He is unparalleled in the history of SC2 in weekend tournaments, bar none. But he still hasn't won a GSL or a WCS tournament yet.
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On July 06 2014 12:35 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:34 PhoenixVoid wrote: HyuN's ZvP lately has been focused on Ling/Roach/Muta with Melee and Carapace I haven't seen him pull out the Roach/Hydra/Viper composition in a while. If Pigbaby's capable of being defensive, which of the two styles would be favourable?
Thing is I don't recall PB being very defensive in PvZ.
If he's turned over a new leaf, Hyun will likely bombard him with ling/roach/muta. He's always been one to usually avoid Hive tech units. Expect masses of low-tech units with weak upgrades and tech switches.
Essentially, he's a weaker version of soO, but without ultras :p
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On July 06 2014 12:27 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:26 Shellshock wrote:On July 06 2014 12:23 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:22 jakethesnake wrote:On July 06 2014 12:21 Caihead wrote: Well guess I gotta cheer for a Heart vs Pigbaby finals. Same. And hopefully Pigbaby is the royal roader we all dream of. It'll depend on his PvZ. Does anyone know how well HyuN's PvZ is at this moment, by any chance? I think that Heart and Bomber are both really good at TvT, such that either one of them can go to the finals. Recent results looks like he's been beating foreigners comfortably besides a 4-3 vs Lilbow and losing to Sjaak but struggled vs Koreans I see. I always thought that HyuN had good ZvP, but that isn't as relevant as "current form." Any thoughts on how likely HyuN is to win the whole thing, considering all the players' forms?
Hyun also has this thing where he's capable to raise his play to the occasion whenever it truly matters, which is a good skill to have when you want to be competitive. I'd take that into account as well as his current form.
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On July 06 2014 12:39 Bagration wrote: You know, Taeja is becoming a bit like Yellow.
Now before you start telling me I'm wrong, remember that in addition to winning a lot of silvers, Yellow was known as the Special Events King. He wouldn't win the OSL or the MSL, but he won a lot of other events. That's actually kind of the situation that Taeja is in. He is unparalleled in the history of SC2 in weekend tournaments, bar none. But he still hasn't won a GSL or a WCS tournament yet. How good was YellOw in ProLeague/team events?
edit: outside of the 2v2s
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote: Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose. You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.
I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine.
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On July 06 2014 12:41 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote: Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose. You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation. I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine. Flash is REALLY good at playing cc first. His opponents, sadly realize that.
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United States97274 Posts
On July 06 2014 12:41 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote: Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose. You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation. I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine. but you see there were 3 preparations Flash prepared CC first then he prepared that shine would counter his CC first then he prepared that Shine would counter his counter to his CC first so he went CC first
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 06 2014 12:42 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:41 stuchiu wrote:On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote: Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose. You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation. I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine. Flash is REALLY good at playing cc first. His opponents, sadly realize that.
That prep though, convincing oneself to go cc first against shine.
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On July 06 2014 12:41 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote: Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose. You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation. I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine.
Doing exactly what you are known to do when you know your opponent studies you is in itself a viable strategy, reverse mind games. It's what MC's been doing for years.
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On July 06 2014 12:38 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:36 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:36 Yorkie wrote:On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote: Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose. You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation. Been practicing on his own for 2 and a half months, but hey I guess he kept the same mentality I would hope that the mentality wouldn't decay after two and a half months. I'm just saying, some players need a coach in their ear or a team house environment with practice partners to stay on top of their preparation and practice. Pigbaby seems like a good self motivator Wish I had that self motivating ability. I can't get myself out of bed unless someone else gets mad at me for not doing something. It's the best quality someone can have I think
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 06 2014 12:42 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:41 stuchiu wrote:On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote: Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose. You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation. I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine. Doing exactly what you are known to do when you know your opponent studies you is in itself a viable strategy, reverse mind games.
There is this thing called "keeping your opponent honest" in fgc. Basically you don't do the double mind game until they force you to respect the single level mind game.
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