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On July 06 2014 12:26 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:23 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:22 jakethesnake wrote:On July 06 2014 12:21 Caihead wrote:
Well guess I gotta cheer for a Heart vs Pigbaby finals. Same. And hopefully Pigbaby is the royal roader we all dream of. It'll depend on his PvZ. Does anyone know how well HyuN's PvZ is at this moment, by any chance? I think that Heart and Bomber are both really good at TvT, such that either one of them can go to the finals. Recent results looks like he's been beating foreigners comfortably besides a 4-3 vs Lilbow and losing to Sjaak but struggled vs Koreans
I see. I always thought that HyuN had good ZvP, but that isn't as relevant as "current form."
Any thoughts on how likely HyuN is to win the whole thing, considering all the players' forms?
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Eh.. guys, guys... Taeja was not playing the best series of his life. Also Pigbaby showed some great preparation, while Taeja was playing at his hands.
Look at his plan to go for widow mine drop in game 3 vs mass observer Pigbaby. Also i suppose he had too many marauders. More marines, hellbats or mines would prolly be better vs that no?
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On July 06 2014 12:24 Darkhorse wrote:
Can we have a shred of maturity in the thread please. Pigbaby beat him. That is that.
? People seem to be handling this pretty well. Even more surprisingly, I feel like I'm seeing more posts happy TL's "Mvp 2.0" he-who-shall-not-be-bashed-ever lost than otherwise, and it's refreshing.
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On July 06 2014 12:27 coL.hendralisk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:25 stuchiu wrote:On July 06 2014 12:24 Darkhorse wrote:
Can we have a shred of maturity in the thread please. Pigbaby beat him. That is that. You came to the wrong thread if you wanted that! wait so the horse isn't hoarse anymore :O?
I know it's a travesty but we don't judge him for it
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The best terrans of the pile lost 0-3 and to zerg and protoss no less! ZPcraft!!!!!
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On July 06 2014 12:24 Darkhorse wrote:
Can we have a shred of maturity in the thread please. Pigbaby beat him. That is that.
Darkhorse you know the LR community frowns on big words like "Maturity" 2 syllables or less pls 
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On July 06 2014 12:25 jakethesnake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:25 The_Templar wrote:
I just realized that this falls into line with the templar curse, although much more severe than usual -.- What is this curse? There are too many to keep track of at this point.
Every time I assume, without any evidence, that something about a player is bad, whether it's some aspect of their play or their overall ability, the opposite becomes true.
I assumed that Pigbaby was bad.
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On July 06 2014 12:27 coL.hendralisk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:25 stuchiu wrote:On July 06 2014 12:24 Darkhorse wrote:
Can we have a shred of maturity in the thread please. Pigbaby beat him. That is that. You came to the wrong thread if you wanted that! wait so the horse isn't hoarse anymore :O?
It's fucking weird isn't it?
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I was expecting two terrans to be eliminated. The last thing I was expecting was for Polt AND Taeja to be eliminated.
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On July 06 2014 12:27 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:26 Shellshock wrote:On July 06 2014 12:23 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:22 jakethesnake wrote:On July 06 2014 12:21 Caihead wrote:
Well guess I gotta cheer for a Heart vs Pigbaby finals. Same. And hopefully Pigbaby is the royal roader we all dream of. It'll depend on his PvZ. Does anyone know how well HyuN's PvZ is at this moment, by any chance? I think that Heart and Bomber are both really good at TvT, such that either one of them can go to the finals. Recent results looks like he's been beating foreigners comfortably besides a 4-3 vs Lilbow and losing to Sjaak but struggled vs Koreans I see. I always thought that HyuN had good ZvP, but that isn't as relevant as "current form." Any thoughts on how likely HyuN is to win the whole thing, considering all the players' forms?
I'm not too familiar with Pigbaby's PvZ but I would imagine HyuN is probably the overall favorite atm if he beats him. Heart and Bomber have decent TvZ though. Both better than Polt's imo
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On July 06 2014 12:25 jakethesnake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:25 The_Templar wrote:
I just realized that this falls into line with the templar curse, although much more severe than usual -.- What is this curse? There are too many to keep track of at this point.
Templar's is saying Scarlett will lose thus ensuring she will win.
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On July 06 2014 12:27 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:24 Darkhorse wrote:
Can we have a shred of maturity in the thread please. Pigbaby beat him. That is that. Darkhouse you know the LR community frowns on big words like "Maturity" 2 syllables or less pls
We dun like dem big smarty words.
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On July 06 2014 12:23 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:22 jakethesnake wrote:On July 06 2014 12:21 Caihead wrote:
Well guess I gotta cheer for a Heart vs Pigbaby finals. Same. And hopefully Pigbaby is the royal roader we all dream of. It'll depend on his PvZ. Does anyone know how well HyuN's PvZ is at this moment, by any chance? I think that Heart and Bomber are both really good at TvT, such that either one of them can go to the finals.
Depending on how you look at it, HyuN's ZvP is either pulling out a narrow victory to probably losing to Pigbaby tier. In DreamHack he lost to Sjaak, beat HuK and lost to MC, in MLG beat Alicia and HuK again while losing to Trap twice. In WCS he lost to Alicia and in a online tournament barely won 4-3 against Lilbow. Pigbaby's PvZ is mostly wins against Revival and XiGua being the most recent.
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On July 06 2014 12:24 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:22 Walnuts wrote:On July 06 2014 12:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On July 06 2014 12:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:
It's kinda funny that people saw Taeja "winning every engagement". If by winning you mean committing a large portion of your armed forces against a Protoss with a superior economy and not actually killing any workers, sure I guess he was "winning every engagement".
Pigbaby trades his army defensively and favourably to protect his worker lines, while having more workers than the Terran. He then builds up a very strong army and strikes with good upgrades, while using heavy observer coverage to prevent economic harassment. That first game especially, Taeja wasn't really winning any engagements. He lost like 20 bio units to snipe one colossus I was specifically referring to the last game, the other ones Taeja was losing the entire time. What did Taeja do to Pigbabys economy in Game 3? He was outmicroed in his initial harass, he killed Colossus but spent almost his entire bioforce doing it and Pigbaby was outproducing him. Show nested quote +You're claiming that good players with high skill levels consistently lose to a single player because he has some kind of force at his control which causes his opponents to mess up. I agree, it's called SKILL. It is unfortunate that skill only works in European weekend tournaments
It works all over  he has had incredible success in GSL, making it out of groups multiple times. If winning a WCS or a GSL is the only criteria for a good player, then I would have to say your players weren't good, but they are. They're REALLY fucking good. So is Taeja.
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Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.
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On July 06 2014 12:27 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:26 Shellshock wrote:On July 06 2014 12:23 IntoTheheart wrote:On July 06 2014 12:22 jakethesnake wrote:On July 06 2014 12:21 Caihead wrote:
Well guess I gotta cheer for a Heart vs Pigbaby finals. Same. And hopefully Pigbaby is the royal roader we all dream of. It'll depend on his PvZ. Does anyone know how well HyuN's PvZ is at this moment, by any chance? I think that Heart and Bomber are both really good at TvT, such that either one of them can go to the finals. Recent results looks like he's been beating foreigners comfortably besides a 4-3 vs Lilbow and losing to Sjaak but struggled vs Koreans I see. I always thought that HyuN had good ZvP, but that isn't as relevant as "current form." Any thoughts on how likely HyuN is to win the whole thing, considering all the players' forms?
I honestly think Hyun is most likely to win, though not by much. His ZvP is hit and miss but I don't really think much of Pigbaby even after this.
Neither Terran probably stands a chance.
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Any thoughts on HyuN vs. Pigbaby? 'Cuz I have the feeling that Pigbaby going to the finals might allow him to do well, depending on the aggression of his opponent, anyway.
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On July 06 2014 12:27 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 12:25 jakethesnake wrote:On July 06 2014 12:25 The_Templar wrote:
I just realized that this falls into line with the templar curse, although much more severe than usual -.- What is this curse? There are too many to keep track of at this point. Every time I assume, without any evidence, that something about a player is bad, whether it's some aspect of their play or their overall ability, the opposite becomes true. I assumed that Pigbaby was bad.
Thanks for all your hard work assuring Pigbaby's and Scarlett's sucess.
Please, always root for terrans to lose.
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On July 06 2014 12:32 IntoTheheart wrote:
Any thoughts on HyuN vs. Pigbaby? 'Cuz I have the feeling that Pigbaby going to the finals might allow him to do well, depending on the aggression of his opponent, anyway.
I think Hyun might invest in a overseer or two.
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On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.
You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.
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