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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 06 2014 03:34 GMT
#1761
On July 06 2014 12:32 Superbanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:27 The_Templar wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:25 jakethesnake wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:25 The_Templar wrote:
I just realized that this falls into line with the templar curse, although much more severe than usual -.-

What is this curse? There are too many to keep track of at this point.

Every time I assume, without any evidence, that something about a player is bad, whether it's some aspect of their play or their overall ability, the opposite becomes true.

I assumed that Pigbaby was bad.

Thanks for all your hard work assuring Pigbaby's and Scarlett's sucess.
Please, always root for terrans to lose.

I think you want me to root for non-terran to lose unless I'm misreading your post.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
July 06 2014 03:34 GMT
#1762
HyuN's ZvP lately has been focused on Ling/Roach/Muta with Melee and Carapace I haven't seen him pull out the Roach/Hydra/Viper composition in a while.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 06 2014 03:35 GMT
#1763
On July 06 2014 12:34 PhoenixVoid wrote:
HyuN's ZvP lately has been focused on Ling/Roach/Muta with Melee and Carapace I haven't seen him pull out the Roach/Hydra/Viper composition in a while.

If Pigbaby's capable of being defensive, which of the two styles would be favourable?
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
July 06 2014 03:36 GMT
#1764
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 06 2014 03:36 GMT
#1765
On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.

You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.

Been practicing on his own for 2 and a half months, but hey I guess he kept the same mentality
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 03:38:03
July 06 2014 03:36 GMT
#1766
On July 06 2014 12:34 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:32 Superbanana wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:27 The_Templar wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:25 jakethesnake wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:25 The_Templar wrote:
I just realized that this falls into line with the templar curse, although much more severe than usual -.-

What is this curse? There are too many to keep track of at this point.

Every time I assume, without any evidence, that something about a player is bad, whether it's some aspect of their play or their overall ability, the opposite becomes true.

I assumed that Pigbaby was bad.

Thanks for all your hard work assuring Pigbaby's and Scarlett's sucess.
Please, always root for terrans to lose.

I think you want me to root for non-terran to lose unless I'm misreading your post.

I usually want terran wins, but there are many exceptions.
edit: The pic is amusing
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 06 2014 03:36 GMT
#1767
On July 06 2014 12:36 TheFish7 wrote:
[image loading]

This is well done.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 06 2014 03:36 GMT
#1768
On July 06 2014 12:36 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.

You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.

Been practicing on his own for 2 and a half months, but hey I guess he kept the same mentality

I would hope that the mentality wouldn't decay after two and a half months.
kiss kiss fall in love
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 06 2014 03:38 GMT
#1769
On July 06 2014 12:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:36 Yorkie wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.

You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.

Been practicing on his own for 2 and a half months, but hey I guess he kept the same mentality

I would hope that the mentality wouldn't decay after two and a half months.

I'm just saying, some players need a coach in their ear or a team house environment with practice partners to stay on top of their preparation and practice. Pigbaby seems like a good self motivator
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 06 2014 03:39 GMT
#1770
You know, Taeja is becoming a bit like Yellow.

Now before you start telling me I'm wrong, remember that in addition to winning a lot of silvers, Yellow was known as the Special Events King. He wouldn't win the OSL or the MSL, but he won a lot of other events. That's actually kind of the situation that Taeja is in. He is unparalleled in the history of SC2 in weekend tournaments, bar none. But he still hasn't won a GSL or a WCS tournament yet.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 03:42:14
July 06 2014 03:39 GMT
#1771
On July 06 2014 12:35 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:34 PhoenixVoid wrote:
HyuN's ZvP lately has been focused on Ling/Roach/Muta with Melee and Carapace I haven't seen him pull out the Roach/Hydra/Viper composition in a while.

If Pigbaby's capable of being defensive, which of the two styles would be favourable?


Thing is I don't recall PB being very defensive in PvZ.

If he's turned over a new leaf, Hyun will likely bombard him with ling/roach/muta. He's always been one to usually avoid Hive tech units. Expect masses of low-tech units with weak upgrades and tech switches.

Essentially, he's a weaker version of soO, but without ultras :p
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12320 Posts
July 06 2014 03:39 GMT
#1772
On July 06 2014 12:27 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:26 Shellshock wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:22 jakethesnake wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:21 Caihead wrote:
Well guess I gotta cheer for a Heart vs Pigbaby finals.

Same. And hopefully Pigbaby is the royal roader we all dream of.

It'll depend on his PvZ.

Does anyone know how well HyuN's PvZ is at this moment, by any chance?

I think that Heart and Bomber are both really good at TvT, such that either one of them can go to the finals.

Recent results looks like he's been beating foreigners comfortably besides a 4-3 vs Lilbow and losing to Sjaak but struggled vs Koreans


I see. I always thought that HyuN had good ZvP, but that isn't as relevant as "current form."
Any thoughts on how likely HyuN is to win the whole thing, considering all the players' forms?


Hyun also has this thing where he's capable to raise his play to the occasion whenever it truly matters, which is a good skill to have when you want to be competitive. I'd take that into account as well as his current form.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 03:41:36
July 06 2014 03:39 GMT
#1773
On July 06 2014 12:39 Bagration wrote:
You know, Taeja is becoming a bit like Yellow.

Now before you start telling me I'm wrong, remember that in addition to winning a lot of silvers, Yellow was known as the Special Events King. He wouldn't win the OSL or the MSL, but he won a lot of other events. That's actually kind of the situation that Taeja is in. He is unparalleled in the history of SC2 in weekend tournaments, bar none. But he still hasn't won a GSL or a WCS tournament yet.

How good was YellOw in ProLeague/team events?

edit: outside of the 2v2s
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 06 2014 03:41 GMT
#1774
On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.

You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.


I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 06 2014 03:42 GMT
#1775
On July 06 2014 12:41 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.

You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.


I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine.

Flash is REALLY good at playing cc first. His opponents, sadly realize that.
kiss kiss fall in love
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 06 2014 03:42 GMT
#1776
On July 06 2014 12:41 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.

You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.


I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine.

but you see there were 3 preparations
Flash prepared CC first
then he prepared that shine would counter his CC first
then he prepared that Shine would counter his counter to his CC first so he went CC first
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 03:43:00
July 06 2014 03:42 GMT
#1777
On July 06 2014 12:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:41 stuchiu wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.

You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.


I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine.

Flash is REALLY good at playing cc first. His opponents, sadly realize that.


That prep though, convincing oneself to go cc first against shine.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 03:43:29
July 06 2014 03:42 GMT
#1778
On July 06 2014 12:41 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.

You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.


I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine.


Doing exactly what you are known to do when you know your opponent studies you is in itself a viable strategy, reverse mind games. It's what MC's been doing for years.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 06 2014 03:42 GMT
#1779
On July 06 2014 12:38 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:36 Yorkie wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.

You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.

Been practicing on his own for 2 and a half months, but hey I guess he kept the same mentality

I would hope that the mentality wouldn't decay after two and a half months.

I'm just saying, some players need a coach in their ear or a team house environment with practice partners to stay on top of their preparation and practice. Pigbaby seems like a good self motivator

Wish I had that self motivating ability. I can't get myself out of bed unless someone else gets mad at me for not doing something. It's the best quality someone can have I think
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 06 2014 03:44 GMT
#1780
On July 06 2014 12:42 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:41 stuchiu wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:33 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:30 stuchiu wrote:
Hyun has weird ZvP. If Pigbaby understands it he should win. If he gets caught off guard he'll lose.

You know KeSPA. Preparation, preparation, preparation.


I don't believe that. Flash went cc first against Shine.


Doing exactly what you are known to do when you know your opponent studies you is in itself a viable strategy, reverse mind games.


There is this thing called "keeping your opponent honest" in fgc. Basically you don't do the double mind game until they force you to respect the single level mind game.
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