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On July 03 2014 15:41 ExO_ wrote:
And you're trying to take my quote out of context. When I said "if you are a townie then you would've realized mderg was innocent, I meant you, specifically, vivax. You, as in Vivax. Does this make sense?
This is bullshit cause you expected me to accept your arguments for him being town or else I'm scum, and if your arguments should be able to convince me, then they should also be able to convince anyone else.
You're trying to put it as if your arguments for him being town were tailored just to be used against my push.
It doesn't work that way. If your arguments aren't convincing for all guys on the mderg wagon, it doesn't mean that I'm scum for being one of them just cause you were talking to me and not to the others.
If you have good arguments for a guy being town, and let's say 3 guys don't believe into them, why do you only pick one of them to be scummy for it? After all, they should be good arguments for everyone reading them without an agenda, but they evidently weren't.
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On July 03 2014 15:46 ExO_ wrote:
If you aren't scum, then who is out of:
mderg (6): Tehpoofter, HaruRH, kushm4sta, IAmRobik, Vivax, IAmRobik, Rainbows
or do you seriously think I'm going to believe that 2 or less scum are in this list
Out of this list I would say TehPoofter, but I think that's obvious if you look at my previous scum candidates.
If you're indeed interested into figuring him out then go check what he did to get mderg lynched after dropping his vote onto him first. Precisely, nothing, he wasn't there trying to get mderg lynched over Haru, AND HE SCUMREAD YOU.
Now, try to look at it from TehPoofter's perspective, in this post
On July 01 2014 09:42 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2014 06:59 mderg wrote:On July 01 2014 06:43 HaruRH wrote:On July 01 2014 06:39 mderg wrote:On July 01 2014 06:37 HaruRH wrote:On July 01 2014 06:36 mderg wrote:On July 01 2014 06:34 HaruRH wrote:On July 01 2014 06:31 mderg wrote:On July 01 2014 06:30 HaruRH wrote:On July 01 2014 06:28 mderg wrote:
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less scummy =/= town Fine, let me rephase it Haru less town than robik and mderg because haru have 1 less letter Thats why exo is top scum That´s totally related to this. I thought we were listing bullshit reasons to townread/read a scum more towny than other scum? Imagine this: 2 people are scummy, 1 of them has some small reasons to be slightly less scummy --> 1 is scummier than the other. Shouldn´t be that hard to understand. You still haven't explain what is that small reason properly And I won't take 'thread sentiment' as an answer It´s not thread sentiment, it´s the reasons for the thread sentiment being as it is. The reasons for voting me so far have been one liners, wifom of level 1000 or no reason at all. So how would you read the reason for thread sentiment thinking im scum? These reasons you want me to give don´t matter. I´ll try to explain this like for a 5 year old: I think you both are scummy for reasons I already gave, there´s no proper reason to townread you, there have been reasons mentioned in the thread that make robik slightly less scummy. The reasons to scumread you two has nothing to do with thread sentiment, the reasons why robik could be townread have been mentioned in the thread and they are not completely stupid or something, they´re just way to little to negate the scumread. Naturally, I think it´s better to lynch the scummier guy before the slightly less scummy guy. mderg or exo are my favorite lynches today. I think vivax is scum but so many people are town reading him I doubt we can get him lynched. Exo - Has been still doing what I called him out on I didn't finish my thoughts on him last night cause my video mafia game started and I just said fuck it. What I was saying about exo is: This guys vote at EoD is really weird he pops in it at odd times and I feel like he doesn't know what to say. I think this is like a classic mafia tell. They know they should talk but don't know what to say. I think that him saying he got a warning for activity and talking about how things are all spammy and he needs to write down his ideas is an easy thing for scum to do. He seems upset he has to post which I don't see as townie. Also I feel like in a world where Cav is mafia ExO hammers away from him to save his buddy. I am a bit worried about him just being n00bie town but I'm not getting the same vibe as I was last game where he was saying and doing weird shit but it felt townie. MDerg - says he didn't vote for sinani because of Exo but his vote didn't go off... this could have been a smart and opportunistic scum not voting on a scum buddy cav or a bad scum missing his shot to hammer the cop. I thought mdergs attempt to clear himself based on his vote thing was pretty lack luster and I still seem scum motive in his vote. Outside his vote though his thing about robik being scum as well as haru does feel like what I was calling out Haru for and he defends it in an odd way that makes me think hes more trying to prove he wasn't lying than he is right. Like as a townie if you say something contradictory you really don't care you just brush it off and say fuck it I'm town like think what you want. I don't get this feeling in mdergs post. ##Vote Mderg I think that Mderg and Exo are very unlikely to be scum together from the way things have played out. I think a scum team is something along the lines of Mderg or Exo/Vivax/Cav/Haru I feel like everyone else is townie.
He scumreads both u and mderg.
When you try to convince the thread to switch to Haru, Poofter doesn't move a finger.
Poofter should have seen his scumread try to save another scumread and put up some resistance but what we see is jack shit.
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On July 03 2014 15:50 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 15:41 ExO_ wrote:
And you're trying to take my quote out of context. When I said "if you are a townie then you would've realized mderg was innocent, I meant you, specifically, vivax. You, as in Vivax. Does this make sense? This is bullshit cause you expected me to accept your arguments for him being town or else I'm scum, and if your arguments should be able to convince me, then they should also be able to convince anyone else. You're trying to put it as if your arguments for him being town were tailored just to be used against my push. It doesn't work that way. If your arguments aren't convincing for all guys on the mderg wagon, it doesn't mean that I'm scum for being one of them just cause you were talking to me and not to the others. If you have good arguments for a guy being town, and let's say 3 guys don't believe into them, why do you only pick one of them to be scummy for it? After all, they should be good arguments for everyone reading them without an agenda, but they evidently weren't.
You're dodging my question. I'd like you to explain to me what happened from your end of things. If you disagree with any of the statements, tell me which one
1. My arguments was that mderg and cav couldn't both be scum, because of what happened at the end of day 1, with mderg nearly switching his vote to get cav killed.
2. You pushed cav on day 2, heavily implying he's mafia. (not everybody else did this to the degree you did in my opinion.
3. You then pushed mderg.
4. I explained that both mderg and cav couldn't be mafia. We then had an exchange pointing out the explanation for mdergs last second vote switch.
So from my point of view, you pushed votes on 2 people, 1 of which you knew had to be confirmed town. How do you explain that? At what point did you stop thinking cav was mafia, and mderg was instead the mafia?
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Or at least I would have liked to see him puzzled over why I was pushing mderg so hard.
He lacks participation at a point where his 3 scumreads were doing things that just didn't make sense if they were indeed a scumteam. You and me arguing like that over lynching our scumbuddy mderg?
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I already linked you to my response to your case, that's where I have shown why I disagreed with your argument for mderg and Cav both being town.
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On July 03 2014 16:03 Vivax wrote:
I already linked you to my response to your case, that's where I have shown why I disagreed with your argument for mderg and Cav both being town.
no no no, not them both being town, but at least one was town. Do you disagree that it was clearly presented that at least one was town
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If you don't disagree that at least one had to be town (indicated by the day 1 antics) then at what point did you decide cav was innocent and mderg scum?
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...and he's gone. If anybody sees Vivax later, please ask him to answer this:
On July 03 2014 16:13 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 16:03 Vivax wrote:
I already linked you to my response to your case, that's where I have shown why I disagreed with your argument for mderg and Cav both being town. no no no, not them both being town, but at least one was town. Do you disagree that it was clearly presented that at least one was town
On July 03 2014 16:20 ExO_ wrote:
If you don't disagree that at least one had to be town (indicated by the day 1 antics) then at what point did you decide cav was innocent and mderg scum?
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On July 03 2014 09:31 kushm4sta wrote:I think Exo is town. His case looks like genuine newbie confirmation bias, complete with connection theories and wifom. Here's an example but it's all like this. Show nested quote +On July 02 2014 12:16 ExO_ wrote:
Read Vivax's filter. He is constantly asking others to answer questions for him. He is trying to follow in Koshi's footsteps, because we all know Koshi was town right? Except Koshi was VT, his read might've been wrong. But Vivax wants the association with the townie. Notice how he leaves out trying to push Palmar non-stop, then BAM look who died night 1? The big bad wolf (according to Vivax), Palmar the townie (who I might add pushed HaruRH).
I agree with this. He is using dead townies argument on one side, but reject other dead townies argument. Pure newbie association bias. I'll just have to accept he is town for now.
For now, if you don't want to lose, lynch into poofter/oo. Either one of this is fine. Oo just disappeared with poofter.
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On July 03 2014 16:00 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 15:50 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 15:41 ExO_ wrote:
And you're trying to take my quote out of context. When I said "if you are a townie then you would've realized mderg was innocent, I meant you, specifically, vivax. You, as in Vivax. Does this make sense? This is bullshit cause you expected me to accept your arguments for him being town or else I'm scum, and if your arguments should be able to convince me, then they should also be able to convince anyone else. You're trying to put it as if your arguments for him being town were tailored just to be used against my push. It doesn't work that way. If your arguments aren't convincing for all guys on the mderg wagon, it doesn't mean that I'm scum for being one of them just cause you were talking to me and not to the others. If you have good arguments for a guy being town, and let's say 3 guys don't believe into them, why do you only pick one of them to be scummy for it? After all, they should be good arguments for everyone reading them without an agenda, but they evidently weren't. You're dodging my question. I'd like you to explain to me what happened from your end of things. If you disagree with any of the statements, tell me which one 1. My arguments was that mderg and cav couldn't both be scum, because of what happened at the end of day 1, with mderg nearly switching his vote to get cav killed. 2. You pushed cav on day 2, heavily implying he's mafia. (not everybody else did this to the degree you did in my opinion. 3. You then pushed mderg. 4. I explained that both mderg and cav couldn't be mafia. We then had an exchange pointing out the explanation for mdergs last second vote switch. So from my point of view, you pushed votes on 2 people, 1 of which you knew had to be confirmed town. How do you explain that? At what point did you stop thinking cav was mafia, and mderg was instead the mafia?
??? I don't understand your questions at all. ONLY at your point of view is there is at least 1 town in between mderg and cav. So who is confirmed town? Nobody is confirmed town here. Cav's claim reeks of 'you still cant kill me dumb town'. I don't think town, or even cop in this case, would think this way?
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On July 03 2014 18:16 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 16:00 ExO_ wrote:On July 03 2014 15:50 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 15:41 ExO_ wrote:
And you're trying to take my quote out of context. When I said "if you are a townie then you would've realized mderg was innocent, I meant you, specifically, vivax. You, as in Vivax. Does this make sense? This is bullshit cause you expected me to accept your arguments for him being town or else I'm scum, and if your arguments should be able to convince me, then they should also be able to convince anyone else. You're trying to put it as if your arguments for him being town were tailored just to be used against my push. It doesn't work that way. If your arguments aren't convincing for all guys on the mderg wagon, it doesn't mean that I'm scum for being one of them just cause you were talking to me and not to the others. If you have good arguments for a guy being town, and let's say 3 guys don't believe into them, why do you only pick one of them to be scummy for it? After all, they should be good arguments for everyone reading them without an agenda, but they evidently weren't. You're dodging my question. I'd like you to explain to me what happened from your end of things. If you disagree with any of the statements, tell me which one 1. My arguments was that mderg and cav couldn't both be scum, because of what happened at the end of day 1, with mderg nearly switching his vote to get cav killed. 2. You pushed cav on day 2, heavily implying he's mafia. (not everybody else did this to the degree you did in my opinion. 3. You then pushed mderg. 4. I explained that both mderg and cav couldn't be mafia. We then had an exchange pointing out the explanation for mdergs last second vote switch. So from my point of view, you pushed votes on 2 people, 1 of which you knew had to be confirmed town. How do you explain that? At what point did you stop thinking cav was mafia, and mderg was instead the mafia? ??? I don't understand your questions at all. ONLY at your point of view is there is at least 1 town in between mderg and cav. So who is confirmed town? Nobody is confirmed town here. Cav's claim reeks of 'you still cant kill me dumb town'. I don't think town, or even cop in this case, would think this way?
How can that bolded an honest opinion? On day 1, mderg switched his vote to cav, just barely after time was called. mderg nearly killed cav on day 1 with his lynch vote, it he had posted seconds earlier it would have killed cav.
Both cannot be mafia together, because then a mafia would've passed on the final vote to kill a mafia on day 1. How else can you interpret that? I'm at a complete loss as to how you would not understand this. Since both cannot be mafia, at most one can be mafia. So how can you possibly accuse cav of being mafia, and then vote mderg accusing him of being mafia? this is exactly what vivax did on day 2. Accused cav of mafia, and then voted and accused mderg of mafia, ignore the evidence I presented that proved it was impossible to think both.
What about that do you not understand? Please explain to me how you thought both could be mafia, because on day 2 it was obvious that at most only 1 out of those 2 was mafia, if any at all.
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EBWOP: Poor phrasing choice in the first sentence of my second paragraph, as it doesn't read well. this would be better:
*Both cannot be mafia together, because then a mafia would've submitted the final vote to kill a mafia on day 1
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OO GET THE FUCK IN HERE AND CLAIM PLEASE.
vivax you really think town only has 1 power role? If cav is scum and OO claims vt ,then that is what we are looking at. Yes it's possible, but I think it's unlikely enough that we should not be lynching cav today.
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I'm going to sleep. Somebody please get HaruRH/Vivax to answer my question, I wanna see how this can be explained away
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On July 03 2014 18:45 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 18:16 HaruRH wrote:On July 03 2014 16:00 ExO_ wrote:On July 03 2014 15:50 Vivax wrote:On July 03 2014 15:41 ExO_ wrote:
And you're trying to take my quote out of context. When I said "if you are a townie then you would've realized mderg was innocent, I meant you, specifically, vivax. You, as in Vivax. Does this make sense? This is bullshit cause you expected me to accept your arguments for him being town or else I'm scum, and if your arguments should be able to convince me, then they should also be able to convince anyone else. You're trying to put it as if your arguments for him being town were tailored just to be used against my push. It doesn't work that way. If your arguments aren't convincing for all guys on the mderg wagon, it doesn't mean that I'm scum for being one of them just cause you were talking to me and not to the others. If you have good arguments for a guy being town, and let's say 3 guys don't believe into them, why do you only pick one of them to be scummy for it? After all, they should be good arguments for everyone reading them without an agenda, but they evidently weren't. You're dodging my question. I'd like you to explain to me what happened from your end of things. If you disagree with any of the statements, tell me which one 1. My arguments was that mderg and cav couldn't both be scum, because of what happened at the end of day 1, with mderg nearly switching his vote to get cav killed. 2. You pushed cav on day 2, heavily implying he's mafia. (not everybody else did this to the degree you did in my opinion. 3. You then pushed mderg. 4. I explained that both mderg and cav couldn't be mafia. We then had an exchange pointing out the explanation for mdergs last second vote switch. So from my point of view, you pushed votes on 2 people, 1 of which you knew had to be confirmed town. How do you explain that? At what point did you stop thinking cav was mafia, and mderg was instead the mafia? ??? I don't understand your questions at all. ONLY at your point of view is there is at least 1 town in between mderg and cav. So who is confirmed town? Nobody is confirmed town here. Cav's claim reeks of 'you still cant kill me dumb town'. I don't think town, or even cop in this case, would think this way? How can that bolded an honest opinion? On day 1, mderg switched his vote to cav, just barely after time was called. mderg nearly killed cav on day 1 with his lynch vote, it he had posted seconds earlier it would have killed cav.Both cannot be mafia together, because then a mafia would've passed on the final vote to kill a mafia on day 1. How else can you interpret that? I'm at a complete loss as to how you would not understand this. Since both cannot be mafia, at most one can be mafia. So how can you possibly accuse cav of being mafia, and then vote mderg accusing him of being mafia? this is exactly what vivax did on day 2. Accused cav of mafia, and then voted and accused mderg of mafia, ignore the evidence I presented that proved it was impossible to think both. What about that do you not understand? Please explain to me how you thought both could be mafia, because on day 2 it was obvious that at most only 1 out of those 2 was mafia, if any at all.
I think we went through this already. Mderg's final switch to cav could be a well disguised vote that makes him seems like he has the intention to kill cav, but still stays on sinani to defend his scummate. This is entirely possible since mderg was very against lynching cav. In this scenario, both can be scum.
It was not impossible to think both are mafia. Like I said, the 'passed on a final vote to kill a scum d1' is unfounded since mderg voted exactly on the deadline - this could easily have been planned. Coupled with his unwillingness to vote for cav but still switched to, or pretended to switch to cav in the end, gives him the illusion of 'voted for sinani but actually is on cav' motive.
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ExO_ is now on a double ultra hardcore super duper warning thing.
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On July 03 2014 20:15 kushm4sta wrote:
OO GET THE FUCK IN HERE AND CLAIM PLEASE.
vivax you really think town only has 1 power role? If cav is scum and OO claims vt ,then that is what we are looking at. Yes it's possible, but I think it's unlikely enough that we should not be lynching cav today.
im doctor i already said so twice, once on d1 once n1
n1 i put save on kush - long filter + reading game = town
n2 i put save on cav - thought scum might have tried to kill him off to free up RB so it would have been a lucky save
plus i dont have a townread on vivax so fuck saving him
capital letters in the first paragraph:
On June 29 2014 03:41 ObviousOne wrote:
I just need to say something. As with most of the times I've played, My mood is the most crazy thing about me. There's also always the challenge of being scrutinized by people who would rather just fling accusations instead of interrogate, which just pisses me off rightly. However, this game, it's a bit of both. Everyone who is calling me scum is doing it without an interrogation, which when I started this game I promised myself I was going to try to play that way. Doesn't look like that's going to work out this game, even with the small number of players, because 40 posts a day of content like that is just not possible for me without seriously cutting into my terraria time. Other than interrogation, my preferred method is just to be left alone to make observations and put them in the thread. Can't do that if you're just going to call me mafia without that conversation, so I just get pissed again. There's one thing you can do right now and it's this: Offer me questions about other people or stop calling me mafia. Really, that's it.
Capiche?
On June 29 2014 06:10 ObviousOne wrote:Yes please shoot me, I am the doctor
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On July 03 2014 17:05 ExO_ wrote:...and he's gone. If anybody sees Vivax later, please ask him to answer this: Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 16:13 ExO_ wrote:On July 03 2014 16:03 Vivax wrote:
I already linked you to my response to your case, that's where I have shown why I disagreed with your argument for mderg and Cav both being town. no no no, not them both being town, but at least one was town. Do you disagree that it was clearly presented that at least one was town Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 16:20 ExO_ wrote:
If you don't disagree that at least one had to be town (indicated by the day 1 antics) then at what point did you decide cav was innocent and mderg scum?
This is what you wrote and I answered to, smartass, good thing you don't remember what you said yourself.
Looking at the end, mderg tried to switch but his vote didn't go through. If he's mafia, I don't think he tries that. I mean why? What's the incentive?* This makes me think he isn't mafia. And if Cava is mafia, the mafia team sure was willing to let him die day 1. He came extremely close. This makes me think, that Cava isn't mafia either. Ruling out these 2, myself, and the people that have already died leaves me with this list, of which I believe the 3 mafia names are contained
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plus i dont have a townread on vivax so fuck saving him
On June 29 2014 03:30 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm just a transient being with a basic lizard brain
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On July 04 2014 00:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 03:30 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm just a transient being with a basic lizard brain
see now you're sprechen ze deutchz
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