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1) My reads this game were so bad for the most part. I don't think I should play any crazy setups for a long time. 2) The person who I wanted to follow got modkilled 3) How did I finally die and what took so long to kill me? Sandro knew I was medic and (I think) he knew how my role worked. Did he really expect me to get lynched?
and most importantly, Thanks greymist and cohost for the game.
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There were a ton of confirmed townies to kill and your protections weren't an issue since you had to claim them. We tried to kill you on the night with no kills, but, I assume, Geript RBing Oats blocked both of our shots. Oats was supposed to RB you and shoot someone else while Sandro was supposed to shoot you.
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On April 22 2014 21:32 justanothertownie wrote:Still confused!
Foolishness's protection on sandroba was still active. It gives his target an extra life, but only if he doesnt already have one. You did indeed shoot sandroba, he just lost his extra life given by foolish. Becuase this was not a vet stack he began play with, he was not notified of losing it.
On April 22 2014 22:17 strongandbig wrote: Oh also if foolishness protected sandroba doesn't that mean he should've been janitored for a cycle? Greymist should totally just have noflipped sandroba and made us play out the extra cycle :p I would've been mad but it would've been so funny.
I considered doing something with this.
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On April 22 2014 22:45 syllogism wrote: There were a ton of confirmed townies to kill and your protections weren't an issue since you had to claim them. We tried to kill you on the night with no kills, but, I assume, Geript RBing Oats blocked both of our shots. Oats was supposed to RB you and shoot someone else while Sandro was supposed to shoot you. I told you I was Jesus. I saved.
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On April 22 2014 10:52 strongandbig wrote:My role was awesome, greymist I wanted something to happen when I used all nine powers but that was asking a bit much :p The lovers should work like I asked though, if someone has an ability that hits multiple targets then all of them should be lovers What do you think of the combos I used? (I feel like it was pretty good except for the part with sandro being town) @gm, bump
I'm interested in what else you thought of that could be done by comboing those powers
Also I can't believe no one else pushed the button with me after my inspirational speech
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On April 22 2014 21:58 Koshi wrote: iamp lynch syllo lynch LSB shot
basically.
Towncircle was killed last. Who was in it btw? Palmar/Sandroba/WoS/SnB/Dandel? Holyflare in the end? I find this hilarious. The town circle included 2 non-town members.
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On April 22 2014 22:01 Koshi wrote: Holyflare his list? Where did that come from? Was it Holyflare or towncircle?
I made a list and cross referenced with people and made a town circle list. Then I decided I didn't trust some of them so edited it to be my own list at the end.
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While you may laugh about the town circle it was Sandro and dandel that got the roles of the unconfirmed and gave us that information in the town circle. Which was an odd thing to do for Sandro, he was basically helping us solve the game at the expense of his team :p
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It would've been a genius move if sandro had been committed to playing actively for the long run.
Also interesting: this is (tied for) my longest filter ever in a mafia game (11 pages)
Next game I play is gonna suck ("oh he's so inactive he must be scum trololol)
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i kind of knew before i even opened my role pm that it was going to be scum. I was on vacation so of course iamp never gets a break so it had to be scum. Then my strategy was trick marv at all costs. Then he died.... then i was lost.
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On April 22 2014 23:23 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 10:52 strongandbig wrote:My role was awesome, greymist I wanted something to happen when I used all nine powers but that was asking a bit much :p The lovers should work like I asked though, if someone has an ability that hits multiple targets then all of them should be lovers What do you think of the combos I used? (I feel like it was pretty good except for the part with sandro being town) @gm, bump I'm interested in what else you thought of that could be done by comboing those powers Also I can't believe no one else pushed the button with me after my inspirational speech
It depends on actions that are being taken, but one of the ones I thought of:
Chariot + Lovers + Magician will make your target target you, make both of you lovers, and then make your target unable to affect you. After that you can use all the good cards on your target and basically have them work on yourself. so you could for example have
Chariot + Lovers + Magician + Death
This will result in your target not actioning and yourself gaining the role of the most recently lynched player.
You could also get creative. This one is more just excessive than anything, But it could work in a scenario when you have a obvious mafia, but no NK power at night. Target the Mafia with
Chariot + Lovers + Magician + Star + Wheel of Fortune.
This will cause your target to target you, both of you to become lovers, both gain protection from 1kp, and have your target not able to affect you. If your target is shooting, he will kill himself and you will survive due to the wheel of fortune making the protection not protect both of you from the shot and the magician making so he can't affect you (The Magician is basically the one thing that overrides the Wheel of Fortune card text).
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On April 22 2014 21:32 justanothertownie wrote:Still confused! Foolishness had his Conceal-o-bot protect Sandroba, which made him a veteran. Technically, if GM had been really pedantic, he could have decided not to flip Sandroba for 12 hours and end the game when the flip came through, but that would just be stupid
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Allowing JAT to RB+shoot Sandro was a pretty terrible idea considering it would have led to town loss had Sandro been town and if mafia had more than 1 kp (which they did) or more than 1 member left.
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I totally fucked up with the WoS thing btw, I was supposed to use that on BH at the end so he couldnt go off and rez a dude.
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We considered having Oats kill WoS on the night he was supposed to use the invention. That, too, would have likely won us the game, but at the time it seemed a bit too brazen to have both inventions simultaneously go missing.
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On April 23 2014 00:07 Oatsmaster wrote: I totally fucked up with the WoS thing btw, I was supposed to use that on BH at the end so he couldnt go off and rez a dude.
What you should have done instead was to trap WoS the night before you actually did. That was the night he used the invention to resurrect BH. Due to the wording of the invention, which Sandro knew, it activated after all other actions at night, including deaths. If you trapped WoS that night, you steal the item preventing the resurrection. You then can immediately give the item to Sandroba and the resurrection never happens. LSB can use his favor for something else and there you go.
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On April 23 2014 00:13 syllogism wrote: We considered having Oats kill WoS on the night he was supposed to use the invention. That, too, would have likely won us the game, but at the time it seemed a bit too brazen to have both inventions simultaneously go missing. How so? Oats killing me would have been a scumclaim either way I think, and it's not like BH being alive for the short time he was actually influenced anything at all (aside from forcing LSB to use his 'wish)
Edit: A funny thing to consider is if I hadn't been so hell-bent on getting BH vigged town would have been in a much better position (assuming BH actually was going to play/use his role) throughout the game as well.
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On April 23 2014 00:17 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 00:13 syllogism wrote: We considered having Oats kill WoS on the night he was supposed to use the invention. That, too, would have likely won us the game, but at the time it seemed a bit too brazen to have both inventions simultaneously go missing. How so? Oats killing me would have been a scumclaim either way I think, and it's not like BH being alive for the short time he was actually influenced anything at all (aside from forcing LSB to use his 'wish) Edit: A funny thing to consider is if I hadn't been so hell-bent on getting BH vigged town would have been in a much better position (assuming BH actually was going to play/use his role) throughout the game as well. Oats would have gotten the invention and we would have resurrected someone. Surely town would realize that something is up when mafia steals both inventions in one cycle? Right?
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The invention was worded so that it only rezzes the top person alphabetically. Dandel got super props for that one. Pro-towniest survivor ever. You wouldn't have been able to rez scum with it.
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We didn't actually know that. I think hosts shouldn't allow town to make such built-in anti-mafia mechanics into their inventions. Just getting hands on the invention is extremely difficult.
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