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On March 06 2014 08:09 marvellosity wrote:
I remember what he said in Survivor (as mafia postgame)
"i would have posted a similar amount as town, but the content would have been way better"
well let's see about that shall we?
I also said this:
On March 03 2014 22:44 yamato77 wrote:
/in
I will not be trying too hard this game.
Also, last spot hype.
I am not above living down to my own promises.
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On March 06 2014 08:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 08:59 gumshoe wrote:On March 06 2014 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 06 2014 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gumshoe, why do you feel my play is likely to get shot? Do you mean by mafia KP or by town KP? Town kp, cause your silly, town wont lynch you, kp is good for killing targets that are hard to muster a lynch on. Like, no ones going to lynch you for hosting an adventure, but it may very well stand out to a single twitch happy townie. I'm like confirmed town for my filter length already. I'm not getting shot by town this game unless they intentionally play against their win condition.
A reasonable town wont lynch you yes, but people with guns and curiosity are far more dangerous. The point isnt that your going to get shot by a town shooter, rather just that scum would be scared to play in such a manner given the volatile nature of gunpowder.
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holy shit, archon
fuck I wasted it in this thread
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On March 06 2014 09:02 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 08:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 06 2014 08:59 gumshoe wrote:On March 06 2014 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 06 2014 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gumshoe, why do you feel my play is likely to get shot? Do you mean by mafia KP or by town KP? Town kp, cause your silly, town wont lynch you, kp is good for killing targets that are hard to muster a lynch on. Like, no ones going to lynch you for hosting an adventure, but it may very well stand out to a single twitch happy townie. I'm like confirmed town for my filter length already. I'm not getting shot by town this game unless they intentionally play against their win condition. A reasonable town wont lynch you yes, but people with guns and curiosity are far more dangerous. The point isnt that your going to get shot by a town shooter, rather just that scum would be scared to play in such a manner given the volatile nature of gunpowder.
But you stated that you found it likely for me to get shot. Do you stand by that, or do you mean that it's likely for a scum player playing the way I do to get shot in general without meaning me specifically?
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On March 06 2014 08:59 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 08:52 gumshoe wrote:On March 06 2014 08:47 prplhz wrote:
@gumshoe Can you please elaborate on why you are trying to sabotage the plan by picking 2,1? Imagine raynpelikoneet is scum, what's so bad about him getting second pick? Because if hes scum, thats a shot thats not hitting scum in a game where the shots are what ever side probably needs to win. He also wont get blame for it, because he just shoots a scummy looking townie, he already has several aggressive reads on people and that may very well be because hes trying to justify shots down the line. Also I'm fine with the rest of the plan, palmer seems cool and I'll gladly claim d2. But I got chills on rayn, so no kp for him. But raynpelikoneet isn't picking KP, he is picking Universal Backup. You might think there will leftover KP for that role but according to the plan, the top picks pick the KP roles so he's not going to get a KP role.
Not anymore, point is, if Rayn is scum hes not necessarily going to do what he says, or he might have a plan for universal back up. Either way, someone I like can make use of the power just as well, so I rather he not have it period.
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not liking how far gumshoe's foot is crammed into his mouth here.
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I think gum is town though. There's no reason for scum to push themselves into the limelight just to get Rayn out of a top slot whilst putting suspicion on themselves by doing it. I also like his initial post in its sincerity though I strongly disagree with the conclusions. I think gumshoe believes what he's saying.
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On March 06 2014 09:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
but we're supposed to know who has the dayvig and the assassin. If they are silent, tell them both to kill each other. Only one will succeed. ?
We may or may not know if someone else is silent
Even if that person knows, we may or may not know because that person might be mafia and lie
If we have a silent shooter we don't know about, we lynch town (assuming mafia assassin would mean that mafia don't silent day shoot with another role cuz it would just lead to mafia getting lynched).
If someone says "oh ya I'm silent too" then what...we have assassin vigi the claimer, assuming that a silent modification is scummy, and we hopefully hit scum, but then there's no reason for them to claim?
The OP says roles will be modified and we may or may not know how. The SPECIFICS of this plan rely on roles working as posted in the OP. The OP essentially says "The basis for this plan is false."
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On March 06 2014 09:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 09:02 gumshoe wrote:On March 06 2014 08:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 06 2014 08:59 gumshoe wrote:On March 06 2014 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 06 2014 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gumshoe, why do you feel my play is likely to get shot? Do you mean by mafia KP or by town KP? Town kp, cause your silly, town wont lynch you, kp is good for killing targets that are hard to muster a lynch on. Like, no ones going to lynch you for hosting an adventure, but it may very well stand out to a single twitch happy townie. I'm like confirmed town for my filter length already. I'm not getting shot by town this game unless they intentionally play against their win condition. A reasonable town wont lynch you yes, but people with guns and curiosity are far more dangerous. The point isnt that your going to get shot by a town shooter, rather just that scum would be scared to play in such a manner given the volatile nature of gunpowder. But you stated that you found it likely for me to get shot. Do you stand by that, or do you mean that it's likely for a scum player playing the way I do to get shot in general without meaning me specifically?
I think youve pulled it off, throughout your filter you've done much more than just be silly, but if you hadnt youd obviusly look alot more scummy, and at the start of the game thats where you were.
Effectively I dont think scum would start holy flaire style this game, and I dont think scum would play around calling themselves scummy(palmer). Because at some point a vig could just go fuck it and instantly dispell the confusion.
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On March 06 2014 09:08 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 09:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 06 2014 09:02 gumshoe wrote:On March 06 2014 08:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 06 2014 08:59 gumshoe wrote:On March 06 2014 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 06 2014 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gumshoe, why do you feel my play is likely to get shot? Do you mean by mafia KP or by town KP? Town kp, cause your silly, town wont lynch you, kp is good for killing targets that are hard to muster a lynch on. Like, no ones going to lynch you for hosting an adventure, but it may very well stand out to a single twitch happy townie. I'm like confirmed town for my filter length already. I'm not getting shot by town this game unless they intentionally play against their win condition. A reasonable town wont lynch you yes, but people with guns and curiosity are far more dangerous. The point isnt that your going to get shot by a town shooter, rather just that scum would be scared to play in such a manner given the volatile nature of gunpowder. But you stated that you found it likely for me to get shot. Do you stand by that, or do you mean that it's likely for a scum player playing the way I do to get shot in general without meaning me specifically? I think youve pulled it off, throughout your filter you've done much more than just be silly, but if you hadnt youd obviusly look alot more scummy, and at the start of the game thats where you were. Effectively I dont think scum would start holy flaire style this game, and I dont think scum would play around calling themselves scummy(palmer). Because at some point a vig could just go fuck it and instantly dispell the confusion.
"I think the way you've played (entire filter) makes you likely to get shot by a town vigilante."
[ ] yes
[ ] no
Please tick one of the boxes.
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On March 06 2014 09:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 09:08 gumshoe wrote:On March 06 2014 09:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 06 2014 09:02 gumshoe wrote:On March 06 2014 08:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 06 2014 08:59 gumshoe wrote:On March 06 2014 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 06 2014 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gumshoe, why do you feel my play is likely to get shot? Do you mean by mafia KP or by town KP? Town kp, cause your silly, town wont lynch you, kp is good for killing targets that are hard to muster a lynch on. Like, no ones going to lynch you for hosting an adventure, but it may very well stand out to a single twitch happy townie. I'm like confirmed town for my filter length already. I'm not getting shot by town this game unless they intentionally play against their win condition. A reasonable town wont lynch you yes, but people with guns and curiosity are far more dangerous. The point isnt that your going to get shot by a town shooter, rather just that scum would be scared to play in such a manner given the volatile nature of gunpowder. But you stated that you found it likely for me to get shot. Do you stand by that, or do you mean that it's likely for a scum player playing the way I do to get shot in general without meaning me specifically? I think youve pulled it off, throughout your filter you've done much more than just be silly, but if you hadnt youd obviusly look alot more scummy, and at the start of the game thats where you were. Effectively I dont think scum would start holy flaire style this game, and I dont think scum would play around calling themselves scummy(palmer). Because at some point a vig could just go fuck it and instantly dispell the confusion. "I think the way you've played (entire filter) makes you likely to get shot by a town vigilante." [ ] yes [ ] no Please tick one of the boxes.
No leading the witness : P
Artanis 10 pages in gets shot.
Artanis post 10 pages doesn't.
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Just an FYI. The Draft order may be posted a little late (~15-30 minutes) as I will be phoneposting it from work.
Draft numbers due:
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Hey..... prplhz and oats!
Why am I totally right about this? Why am I totally right about this but also wrong?
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On March 06 2014 08:52 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 08:47 prplhz wrote:
@gumshoe Can you please elaborate on why you are trying to sabotage the plan by picking 2,1? Imagine raynpelikoneet is scum, what's so bad about him getting second pick? Because if hes scum, thats a shot thats not hitting scum in a game where the shots are what ever side probably needs to win. He also wont get blame for it, because he just shoots a scummy looking townie, he already has several aggressive reads on people and that may very well be because hes trying to justify shots down the line. Also I'm fine with the rest of the plan, palmer seems cool and I'll gladly claim d2. But I got chills on rayn, so no kp for him.
rayn wasn't even going to be in a KP position.
Are you kidding me right now?
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LSB you coming back or was that ninja vote simply because you realized there was a votethread?
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marv are austin's concerns about what I would essntially call bastard modding legit? I don't see his problems actually...being problems
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On March 06 2014 09:02 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 08:09 marvellosity wrote:
I remember what he said in Survivor (as mafia postgame)
"i would have posted a similar amount as town, but the content would have been way better"
well let's see about that shall we? I also said this: Show nested quote +On March 03 2014 22:44 yamato77 wrote:
/in
I will not be trying too hard this game.
Also, last spot hype. I am not above living down to my own promises.
Look, yamato, I don't care for your shitty excuses.
I don't care for your promise every single fucking game that you're not going to try, because you're basically way too much of a coward to try your hardest in case you fail, so you always want an "out" when your reads aren't good or you look bad. You just don't have the balls to play the game properly, do you?
Your pregame excuses are meaningless. You don't get to play like shit because you preadvertised it in what is a game-by-game attempt to cover your sorry ass. Capiche?
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I'm typing my response up...
I'll just post random thoughts here before I post my argument on rayn's plan which I'm still working on
I already locked 2,1 before I went to sleep yesterday. So that isn't going to work in the first place, see you at the bottom of the list Rayn and Gumshoe. I guess that means unless Rayn chickened out that me and his own personal picks will be irrelevant as part of the plan.
Artanis seems to be confirmed town to me considering he hasn't claimed mafia yet and he is actually trying. Dunno if his mafia behavior changed since last game.
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On March 06 2014 09:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
not liking how far gumshoe's foot is crammed into his mouth here.
same
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On March 06 2014 09:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
marv are austin's concerns about what I would essntially call bastard modding legit? I don't see his problems actually...being problems The OP explicitly states "SOME ROLES MIGHT CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE FACTION THAT GETS THEM. ALSO, THEY MIGHT CHANGE WITHOUT YOU EVEN KNOWING THAT THEY CHANGED"
To the extent that "bastard modding" is "things don't work the way you expect" and not full on sniper kitty or whatever, I think this game is in a grey area because it explicitly says THINGS WON'T NECESSARILY WORK LIKE YOU EXPECT AND SOME ROLES WILL BE ALTERED WITHOUT YOU EVEN KNOWING IT.
I dunno. I haven't seen a PYP mini. I can't fathom a PYP mini that could be balanced at 9/2/1 with a neutral survivor as the 1.
If the game is balanced 9/2, that means, to me, that some of the modifications that can happen will not be happy for town.
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