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On December 10 2013 06:57 VayneAuthority wrote: im not going to vote you just off that of course, but I will see how the day develops. on the road again and then i will post more I agree with this but I'm here. What's up folks? Ask and I shall answer.
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On December 10 2013 06:49 Xatalos wrote: Kushm4sta, by the way, I hope you're planning to play this game seriously. I've witnessed several games that you've partly ruined by lurking or worse.
If you're scum, you can get policy lynched. That's fine.
Sorry but I'm doing a lurk strat this game! I disagree that it will ruin the game though.
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Why do you think me scummy Corazon? Surely if you have material it would be best to place it out in the open for all to see, given the current lack of information available to town?
You said I had to be coerced back into the thread? Is that it? I was going to watch a single ep. Shit son. Sue me. I was an alt-tab away...
I didn't end up watching that ep either. Something happened in the game, so my reason for passing time was no longer motivating my actions. Are you going to FOS me for not being the one person in eighteen to get this discussion off the ground? Nice work buddy.
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that guy is definitely not marv btw.
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On December 10 2013 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't like Xatalos right now and I'm curious if anyone sees what I see before I say why. I think he is just wearing rose tinted glasses.
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On December 10 2013 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't like Xatalos right now and I'm curious if anyone sees what I see before I say why. Gladly oblige.
Quick to hop on someone really really unreasonably early and with not the greatest logic in the world?
My behavior right off is worse but he votes cora
I am so bad I am useful to scum in the lategame, so he would rather mislynch cora who though not perfect, is definitely better at being town than me.
Probably not exactly your point but I think you are also seeing the quick to lynch attitude. And the slightly unreasonable aggressiveness.
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On December 10 2013 07:03 Spaghetticus wrote: Why do you think me scummy Corazon? Surely if you have material it would be best to place it out in the open for all to see, given the current lack of information available to town?
You said I had to be coerced back into the thread? Is that it? I was going to watch a single ep. Shit son. Sue me. I was an alt-tab away...
I didn't end up watching that ep either. Something happened in the game, so my reason for passing time was no longer motivating my actions. Are you going to FOS me for not being the one person in eighteen to get this discussion off the ground? Nice work buddy.
Eh, I'm in the same boat or worse
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On December 10 2013 07:03 Spaghetticus wrote: Why do you think me scummy Corazon? Surely if you have material it would be best to place it out in the open for all to see, given the current lack of information available to town?
You said I had to be coerced back into the thread? Is that it? I was going to watch a single ep. Shit son. Sue me. I was an alt-tab away...
I didn't end up watching that ep either. Something happened in the game, so my reason for passing time was no longer motivating my actions. Are you going to FOS me for not being the one person in eighteen to get this discussion off the ground? Nice work buddy.
Yay that makes 2 people who understand how dumb the pressure votes for me are.
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On December 10 2013 07:04 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't like Xatalos right now and I'm curious if anyone sees what I see before I say why. Gladly oblige. Quick to hop on someone really really unreasonably early and with not the greatest logic in the world? My behavior right off is worse but he votes cora I am so bad I am useful to scum in the lategame, so he would rather mislynch cora who though not perfect, is definitely better at being town than me. Probably not exactly your point but I think you are also seeing the quick to lynch attitude. And the slightly unreasonable aggressiveness. I'm seeing a scattershot that's flinging poo everywhere and found someone to whom it will stick. I don't feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, but rather start chaos and find a nice lynch target. ##Vote Xatalos
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On December 10 2013 07:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 07:04 Alakaslam wrote:On December 10 2013 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't like Xatalos right now and I'm curious if anyone sees what I see before I say why. Gladly oblige. Quick to hop on someone really really unreasonably early and with not the greatest logic in the world? My behavior right off is worse but he votes cora I am so bad I am useful to scum in the lategame, so he would rather mislynch cora who though not perfect, is definitely better at being town than me. Probably not exactly your point but I think you are also seeing the quick to lynch attitude. And the slightly unreasonable aggressiveness. I'm seeing a scattershot that's flinging poo everywhere and found someone to whom it will stick. I don't feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, but rather start chaos and find a nice lynch target. ##Vote Xatalos Guessed right! What do I win?
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On December 10 2013 07:01 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 06:53 Corazon wrote: Lol can I go one game without being the first one voted.
Do you guys really think I'm more scummy at this point than Spag and Slam? I'm being open and honest with all of you. I'm not hiding anything. I've always tried to be genuine and not put up façades or wear masks. I'm telling you that I was going to be busy and I told you how I felt coming into this game. If you guys want to call me scum for that, go ahead. But just know that it is really silly to call me scum when Slam and Spag made one post and peaced out. Spag had to be coerced back into the thread and Slam still hasn't come back.
Plutarch wasn't trying to prod me for discussion; he was trying to twist my words and call me scum. Holyflare is just piggybacking off of everyone else's arguments to take town credit.
If you guys would look into the game, you would see that I am far from the scummiest player here. Also, it is good to know that you are all down for pressure voting so now I don't have to take your votes seriously until very close to the deadline. Sweet. Spagetticus and Alakaslam certainly didn't start in a townish way. But I have to ask which is worse: weak non-contribution (them) or passable non-contribution (you)?
"passable non-contribution" doesn't exist. Your logic is flawed.
My first post was contribution. You can call me out on it later if I contradict myself. You can't call Slam and Spag out on anything that they wrote in their first posts.
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On December 10 2013 06:59 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 06:55 Xatalos wrote:On December 10 2013 06:47 Holyflare wrote:On December 10 2013 06:31 Spaghetticus wrote: @Grackaroni and Holyflare
You were red last game. You were victorious.
Can we expect any changes in your play-style now that you are presumably town?
Grack in particular, you trolled through the initial stages last time, are you gonna be more helpful this game? Don't think you'd see anything different most of my games are "pretty" similar. I guess there are wordings in my posts that you can pick up on sometimes when I'm scum, knowing more information than I should etc. Marv would be able to see afaik (if it is marv). ------------------------------------------------------------ What I don't like though is cora's different responses based on who pushed him see when Plutarch pushed cora, his response was: On December 10 2013 06:13 Corazon wrote: I sense the fact that you aren't reading my posts 100%. You've already gotten off to a rocky start with me due to your baseless accusation. Make sure it doesn't happen again. pretty aggressive - an omg you pointed something out and tried to generate discussion between players don't ever do that again. A hinderance to discussion, and an OMGUS post all within the first few posts. Not something I'd see usually, most people's normal reaction is "just thought people should know" not "shut up im watching you". Then couple it with when I pointed it out again: On December 10 2013 06:14 Corazon wrote: I appreciate getting asked the same question twice. Thanks. Off to work on English. Be back in an hour or so. Complete flip in responses and then a leave the thread, plenty of things to talk about or conclusions to draw early but he just disappears. + Show Spoiler +On November 20 2013 12:37 Corazon wrote: I took a shower. Sorry for not wanting to smell bad.
Moc, I'm quite concerned that you have already used up >25% of your "self-allotted posts". If you're going to start spamming, it's going to be a problem.
Now to my goals/early game statements:
1. I'm not gonna make any meta crap posts. TBH I don't remember anyone's meta and it's ridiculously stupid logic. I'm not going to stand for it and I don't think you guys should either.
2. I'm voting for the scummiest person. My last game was Titanic and it came down to 3-4 days of "X is scum, Y/Z/Q is scum as well". That led the town way off of the path and allowed my scum team the easiest scum win in a very long time. I don't care if they're not on the two lynch trains that are going to form. It's not instant majority so as long as I feel like I'm voting for the scummiest person in my opinion, I'm going to be happy with my vote.
3. I'm going to do my best to not be just an onlooker. I'm gonna try and facilitate discussion and ask a lot of questions instead of just answering questions and throw my ideas out there and just create more chaos.
On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game.
This is pretty much his first post in his last game (as town), notice point 3. Facilitate discussion, respond appropriately. He doesn't go off on the deep end in that game when someone points out something so trivial either, he responds revealing his thought process B2B filterI don't like his responses or his auto peace out of thread, like the point that was brought up on him. ##Vote Corazon Actually I think Corazon has a surprisingly good chance of flipping Mafia (considering it's this early). Slightly scummy opening post, slightly OMGUS response, apathetic tone in next post... Definitely not looking good. Has anyone played with him before though? How does this compare to his town/Mafia play? Why do you need meta to make your read on me? My opening post was not scummy. My OMGUS wasn't an OMGUS. I'm going to call people out for not reading. That isn't scummy to you? Holyflare was just piggybacking off of Plutarch. I'm going to call people out for piggybacking. That isn't scummy to you? I hate to tell you that you are wrong but you are wrong. Sorry.
Meta isn't necessary. It can be helpful sometimes.
It's the scummiest opening post so far in my opinion (maybe competing with Spaghetticus).
It was mostly the tone of your response that I disliked (shifting attention back to the accuser).
I'll have to read the sequence of events again.
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On December 10 2013 07:06 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 07:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 10 2013 07:04 Alakaslam wrote:On December 10 2013 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't like Xatalos right now and I'm curious if anyone sees what I see before I say why. Gladly oblige. Quick to hop on someone really really unreasonably early and with not the greatest logic in the world? My behavior right off is worse but he votes cora I am so bad I am useful to scum in the lategame, so he would rather mislynch cora who though not perfect, is definitely better at being town than me. Probably not exactly your point but I think you are also seeing the quick to lynch attitude. And the slightly unreasonable aggressiveness. I'm seeing a scattershot that's flinging poo everywhere and found someone to whom it will stick. I don't feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, but rather start chaos and find a nice lynch target. ##Vote Xatalos Guessed right! What do I win? A lollipop!
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[Pure Spam]: Btw do games always start this fast nowadays? It just hit two hours and there is so much already
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On December 10 2013 07:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 07:04 Alakaslam wrote:On December 10 2013 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't like Xatalos right now and I'm curious if anyone sees what I see before I say why. Gladly oblige. Quick to hop on someone really really unreasonably early and with not the greatest logic in the world? My behavior right off is worse but he votes cora I am so bad I am useful to scum in the lategame, so he would rather mislynch cora who though not perfect, is definitely better at being town than me. Probably not exactly your point but I think you are also seeing the quick to lynch attitude. And the slightly unreasonable aggressiveness. I'm seeing a scattershot that's flinging poo everywhere and found someone to whom it will stick. I don't feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, but rather start chaos and find a nice lynch target. ##Vote Xatalos Am I really right much at all?
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On December 10 2013 07:08 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 07:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 10 2013 07:04 Alakaslam wrote:On December 10 2013 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't like Xatalos right now and I'm curious if anyone sees what I see before I say why. Gladly oblige. Quick to hop on someone really really unreasonably early and with not the greatest logic in the world? My behavior right off is worse but he votes cora I am so bad I am useful to scum in the lategame, so he would rather mislynch cora who though not perfect, is definitely better at being town than me. Probably not exactly your point but I think you are also seeing the quick to lynch attitude. And the slightly unreasonable aggressiveness. I'm seeing a scattershot that's flinging poo everywhere and found someone to whom it will stick. I don't feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, but rather start chaos and find a nice lynch target. ##Vote Xatalos Am I really right much at all? You saw the same thing I saw, though your accents were different. As for whether you're right, well, we won't know until he flips.
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I do feel like Slam was right as well. If Xatalos was using good logic and pushing me like a townie, I wouldn't have a problem with him. However, he is using faulty logic on purpose and trying to pass it off as correct when in fact his conclusions only come about because he needs to fake pressure on me.
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On December 10 2013 07:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 07:04 Alakaslam wrote:On December 10 2013 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't like Xatalos right now and I'm curious if anyone sees what I see before I say why. Gladly oblige. Quick to hop on someone really really unreasonably early and with not the greatest logic in the world? My behavior right off is worse but he votes cora I am so bad I am useful to scum in the lategame, so he would rather mislynch cora who though not perfect, is definitely better at being town than me. Probably not exactly your point but I think you are also seeing the quick to lynch attitude. And the slightly unreasonable aggressiveness. I'm seeing a scattershot that's flinging poo everywhere and found someone to whom it will stick. I don't feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, but rather start chaos and find a nice lynch target. ##Vote Xatalos
Well, that's one way to look at it. The other is that I'm always relatively aggressive as town.
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On December 10 2013 07:10 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 07:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 10 2013 07:04 Alakaslam wrote:On December 10 2013 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't like Xatalos right now and I'm curious if anyone sees what I see before I say why. Gladly oblige. Quick to hop on someone really really unreasonably early and with not the greatest logic in the world? My behavior right off is worse but he votes cora I am so bad I am useful to scum in the lategame, so he would rather mislynch cora who though not perfect, is definitely better at being town than me. Probably not exactly your point but I think you are also seeing the quick to lynch attitude. And the slightly unreasonable aggressiveness. I'm seeing a scattershot that's flinging poo everywhere and found someone to whom it will stick. I don't feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, but rather start chaos and find a nice lynch target. ##Vote Xatalos Well, that's one way to look at it. The other is that I'm always relatively aggressive as town. There is a difference between being aggressive with good logic (town) and being flinging shit with bad logic on purpose (scum).
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@Corazon
I see no problem with the votes. What is your problem with them?
If you want me to contribute thing with which I can later contradict myself, ask me a question. That's what someone that is trying to find scum would do.
What would a scum do?
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