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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:24 Spaghetticus wrote: What plan? What would be a brilliant scum move for Xatalos' to try? I think he means creating confusion/mayhem and distracting discussion. I don't really agree with that though. I think this fast discussion is a decently good start for the game. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Notice this post On December 10 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: As the OP states "possible roles"; Is every role guaranteed to be in a game? Can there be more than 1 of any role? Is the SK guaranteed to be in the game? Notice the lack of millers. This setup is vulnerable to the follow the DT plan where the DT claims and the medics heal him every night. Since flips are open, we just need to make sure we don't accidentally lynch our DT and medic and hypothetically speaking we will have a massive advantage later on in this game where follow the DT shines. Btw DT/Medic plz don't claim. Unless you are about to be lynched. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Do you think my pressure on you is indicative of my alignment? Hard to say. I'd say slightly leaning town based on the fact that you're apparently trying to unravel my alignment. But I think you're a veteran player? How many games have you played? In that sense, it could possibly be almost anything. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:30 Xatalos wrote: Hard to say. I'd say slightly leaning town based on the fact that you're apparently trying to unravel my alignment. But I think you're a veteran player? How many games have you played? In that sense, it could possibly be almost anything. I think I played around 15-20, but I've played since the dinosaur era. Games are in my profile but I'm too lazy to dig it up. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
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purpletrator
Vanuatu64 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote. Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow. Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok? You mean to tell me you have no concern over the erroneous logic LSB used to vote me? You honestly think my response is worse than "smurfs=mafia"? To actually answer your question, I'm wondering why LSB is wasting my time and wanted to see if he's actually trying to get a response or just trolling. When he ignored my response I chalked it up to 'just trolling'. Then you called me out, he noticed my response and now wants to fish for my identity. Now it looks scummy. It was a hypothetical. I'm not revealing my identity. Good to know you dont give a shit about the lynch. ##Vote: LSB | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On December 10 2013 06:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Holy, I don't feel like his response is that different. I also don't think he'd put himself out there so much at the start of the game. No reason to draw attention to yourself like that as scum. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I just skimmed through the filter he linked and I don't think it looks like the start of this game at all. He's far more aggressive here. What were you trying to say exactly with your initial post if you didn't mean to give anyone a town read but yourself? I'm confused. I don't think a plan other than "starting shit" is required for scum. That's always a good thing. In my opinion natural scum play is to stay low, especially on day 1, the town tends to self destruct anyways day 1. This whole entire "starting shit" strat is actually pretty good, even though it is counterintuitive to the idea of trying to not draw attention. Thus I assumed this strat is not very obvious, especially since I personally never considered it. This is all pure speculation. Something more grounded is that Xatalos is definably acting very different from before, and in my eyes less of a townie | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh wait I can just click profile here. 15. OK. Well, it's definitely possible that this is a "play" to get town credit. But then again, the more likely scenario is that you're town and trying to figure out the game. Your experience makes the former option more likely, but still less likely than the later option, I'd say. | ||
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purpletrator
Vanuatu64 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:29 LSB wrote: Btw for those of you who claim that every game I don't have a plan in I'm a scum, here's a plan Notice this post Notice the lack of millers. This setup is vulnerable to the follow the DT plan where the DT claims and the medics heal him every night. Since flips are open, we just need to make sure we don't accidentally lynch our DT and medic and hypothetically speaking we will have a massive advantage later on in this game where follow the DT shines. Btw DT/Medic plz don't claim. Unless you are about to be lynched. Jim Raynor (Roleblocker) -You're not a Zerg, but you sure as hell hate the UED. Or actually you don't, but Kerrigan is a master at pussywhipping, so you just tag along with her shenanigans and think (because you're told to) you hate the UED. Once per night you can silence a player since you're human looking enough to convince them to put the gun/medicgun/magnifying glass down. [/plan] If we lynch a roleblocker we can look at playing follow the cop I guess | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:37 purpletrator wrote: [/plan] If we lynch a roleblocker we can look at playing follow the cop I guess Actually yeah forgot about that. I like purp's plan more | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:36 LSB wrote: In my opinion natural scum play is to stay low, especially on day 1, the town tends to self destruct anyways day 1. This whole entire "starting shit" strat is actually pretty good, even though it is counterintuitive to the idea of trying to not draw attention. Thus I assumed this strat is not very obvious, especially since I personally never considered it. This is all pure speculation. Something more grounded is that Xatalos is definably acting very different from before, and in my eyes less of a townie I don't feel like Xatalos put himself in the spotlight as much as trying to put others in the spotlight. Corazon put himself in the spotlight without any scum gain. When you look at his post from a scum point of view, it doesn't make sense for them to make it. I can see a scum agenda behind Xatalos' posts. That said, I do like his view on my pressure on him in that it was nuanced rather than trying to score town points. The rest of the day should provide more information. On December 10 2013 07:36 Holyflare wrote: Nobody going to discuss cora's mindset or are you going to dismiss it outright for xantos discussion some more? Given you quoted me I take it you'd like a response from me? I don't find Corazon scummy at this point in time because he drew attention to himself without any scum benefit. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:36 LSB wrote: In my opinion natural scum play is to stay low, especially on day 1, the town tends to self destruct anyways day 1. This whole entire "starting shit" strat is actually pretty good, even though it is counterintuitive to the idea of trying to not draw attention. Thus I assumed this strat is not very obvious, especially since I personally never considered it. This is all pure speculation. Something more grounded is that Xatalos is definably acting very different from before, and in my eyes less of a townie Well, that game is special in the sense that it started during night and nights were PM-only within given Houses. I definitely put pressure on gumshoe and Grackaroni during the night, I'd say. And I was relatively aggressive during the first day, as well. Probably not as aggressive as here, I agree. Do you mean that passive = townish and aggressive/proactive = scummy? Or what? I can't really see myself playing like this as scum. It'd have to be pretty carefully crafted at least. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:43 Xatalos wrote: Well, that game is special in the sense that it started during night and nights were PM-only within given Houses. I definitely put pressure on gumshoe and Grackaroni during the night, I'd say. And I was relatively aggressive during the first day, as well. Probably not as aggressive as here, I agree. Do you mean that passive = townish and aggressive/proactive = scummy? Or what? I can't really see myself playing like this as scum. It'd have to be pretty carefully crafted at least. Productive = Town. Non-Productive = Scum Spam excluded because it is special. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:44 LSB wrote: Productive = Town. Non-Productive = Scum Spam excluded because it is special. Do you think my play has been unproductive so far? If yes, why? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Don't worry, be happy now! Who is lying on board our great voyage? Why do you seek America? Do you like ICE? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On December 10 2013 07:51 Xatalos wrote: Spaghetticus, I see you asking a lot of questions. Do you have opinions of your own so far? About me, Corazon, Alakaslam, for example? He is too busy chewin' ICE he is too dainty for fingernailz | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Please don't ask Aquanim questions until Day 2, he's not here right now. I'll do my best to be active and will always be here for deadlines | ||
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