Some thoughts on the game:

On modkills

We were fortunate this game that the modkills didn't ruin the game. No power roles or mafia were lost, and since town were almost certainly going to mislynch Vayne anyway (and then two townies would be shot by SK and mafia) the only thing town ended up losing was time to talk. The modkills obviously affected the game since mafia and SK probably wouldn't have chosen to shoot Coag and xigxag, but it could have been a lot worse.

I'd like to think that even if Vayne, Coag and xigxag had all been town PRs or something we'd still have gone through with it and sacrificed the integrity of this game to make the point about unacceptable behaviour clear. (Not that we had much choice with Coag and xigxag, but even if we had.)

+ Show Spoiler [Coag modkill] +

On the day he was modkilled, Coag had actually satisfied activity requirements (IIRC he had a vote on xigxag or something) and he would have been un-banned by around the start of the next day. However, since the slot had already been replaced once and Coag hadn't done much to make the slot more readable it wasn't really fair to expect town to deal with a further 48 hours of complete inactivity on top of that.

A few comments

Disclaimer: As you probably know I was on vacation until day 1 and never really went back to read it. As such I don't intend to comment on whatever happened then.

Day two was... weird. I was convinced the day, and further the game, was going to end poorly for town until the last hour or so. Funnily enough the SK was the primary force behind the purpletrator lynch, though aided and abetted by (over?)enthusiastic bussing.

From the fact that he was nearly lynched over purpletrator I felt that Vayne should have been pretty clearly town - however, I can understand between frusturation and policy why he was to be lynched day 3. Modkilling him put scum well and truly on the spot to perform, and they mostly folded here instead.

After that point the thread kind of died understandably. Grack lynch was obvious and there was nothing much to discuss until d4, at which point the Rayn check ended the game. Since town knew there was a cop in the setup and had a mislynch to spare there was literally no way for Rayn to win at that point.

Sentinel was cheering for Rayn to win, I didn't have strong feelings one way or the other.

I don't think the nightactions have been made public yet, so here they are:

Night 1:
Rayn shoots bumatlarge
purpletrator shoots plutarch
kush protects plutarch
holyflare protects plutarch
Artanis uses Psionic Storm on xigxag (it missed)
Xatalos roleblocks LSB
Sidesprang checks LSB
Corazon shoots Holyflare

Night 2:
Rayn shoots kushm4sta
Grackaroni shoots Blazinghand
kush protects Blazinghand
Xatalos roleblocks Alakaslam
Sidesprang checks Alakaslam

Night 3:
Rayn shoots Artanis
Grack shoots Plutarch
Sidesprang checks Artanis

Night 4:
Rayn shoots Blazinghand
Sidesprang checks Rayn

If you have any questions you'd like me to answer or any feedback on my contribution to this game, feel free.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

December 22 2013 11:15 GMT

#3666

Oh LOL, sidesprang actually checked Artanis.... In that case we would have lost even without rayn's shot. GG

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

December 22 2013 11:28 GMT

#3667

Wow great blue play this game. Amazing cop checks and great heals.

Might be 4 of the best cop checks I've seen, also associated with the fact sidesprang played in a fashion that never really got him closed to being lynched or shot by mafia. Really well done actually.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

December 22 2013 11:57 GMT

#3668

Def good play by sidesprang. Curious what made you check me rather than JJD. I guess the options were limited after you already checked LSB and Alakaslam.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

December 22 2013 11:58 GMT

#3669

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/n2gVPMgrxen

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sidesprang

Norway1033 Posts

December 22 2013 14:09 GMT

#3670

On December 22 2013 20:28 marvellosity wrote:
Wow great blue play this game. Amazing cop checks and great heals.

Might be 4 of the best cop checks I've seen, also associated with the fact sidesprang played in a fashion that never really got him closed to being lynched or shot by mafia. Really well done actually.

Way to much praise. I can explain my play a bit and you will see it was not that good

Basically I'm a really new player. I played some games like 3 years ago because I think the concept is really cool. I was really bad and it was hard to play. Kinda like how I feel now, you will see in a game where I'm VT. I've watched like all the esports mafia streams and that is why I got back into the game. I also read the newbie guide and I thought I would try to be a not so active town, but rather make bigger posts and try to make good points.

Then on Day 1 I notice I get the cop role, I thought yay cool. Now I just need to act towny and survive for a few days so I can get some important checks in. My first post was a disaster and tbh it was very forced, I kinda just posted cause I wanted to contribute in some way. What I had was very little and I got called out pretty hard for it. I felt so bad and thought I just fucked the town over so bad by playing a retarded cop. Luckily most of the heat went away, dunno if it was because of my defence or they just felt there was bigger fish to fry.

Anyhow with most of the heat gone, I realized I could not really play that way. So on day 2 I just read peoples filters instead and went with my gut feeling. While doing this I noticed that people did not really go after me that much (except LSB which I just found kinda funny after a while, especially since I knew he was green).

So you can say, that my good town position was the result of a really bad start, and some damage control and adjusting.

Checks:

For my checks I did not want to check VA which was my biggest scumread because if I did and he came back green then I would have to stop going after him, and tbh I dont think I could have played that without painting a cop mark on my back. I liked tunneling him and I felt my points on him were valid even if he would have been misslynched D1 or D2 no one could really say I was scum because of it.

I decided to check LSB first night, but I dont really remember why.

I checked Slam because I had no idea what he was, and his voting just made it all more confusing. I felt a cop check is the only way to figure it out, so I did.

Night 3 I only had 2 real options in my mind. JJD and Artanis. I thought Artanis was way more likely to come up green, and that JJD would come up red. I felt JJD would most likely get lynched after grack anyhow, so I prefered to get a green check on Artanis. If he however came up red I would have to intervene and prolly claim. So I'm really glad he died that night,

The night 4 check was easy. the only two I could check was Rayn and JJD. I was kinda certain that JJD or LSB would be the SK. And the only thing that convince me otherwise would be a black check on Rayn, which I got. If he had selected investigation immunity it would have been tough. JJD would have died for sure, and flipped green. And making a case on rayn against the others would have been to hard I think.

TLDR: I fluked my way into a really good cop position, and I just tried to stay there. Which was not really hard cause it mostly meant that I did not have to post much

I'm happy with the checks, dunno if ppl think the N3 one is greedy but I thought it was the best check at the time atleast.

Chezinu

United States7468 Posts

December 29 2013 19:39 GMT

#3671

On December 22 2013 11:52 Alakaslam wrote:

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Well, define the guidelines required for town to "deserve" a win.

Scum played poorly enough to give in, leading to more town info at times. They should all have been WIFOM ing us to their last breaths, and ARTANIS was playing so well Rayne shot him- sometimes, it is best to play the fool a good bit as scum.

Not claiming I did well. I wholly failed Chezinu as well, he deserves an apology from me.

You accomplished a very important objective. Let it be known that you survived.