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I'm just admonishing you, and no there's not much point to it.
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I'm still stuck on rayn abandoning WoS to lynch Clarity. It's so unlike townrayn not to be all guns blazing for that lynch.
rayn doesn't mind shouting at me repeatedly if he thinks I should be lynching his target.
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On October 31 2013 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 02:41 strongandbig wrote:On October 31 2013 02:41 strongandbig wrote:On October 31 2013 02:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 02:26 strongandbig wrote:On October 31 2013 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 01:55 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 01:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 01:50 strongandbig wrote:On October 31 2013 01:41 Pandain wrote:
Does anyone disagree SnB is scum btw? I do Why am I scum No one has made a case I can respond to Also I'm not Also I'm probably dying at the end of night anyway I will. Give me a few. And marv preflip association bad. I don't want to assume OOHCHILD is scum hard-defending SnB yet. Please don't tell me what's good and bad, I was doing it in association with Prome's own read on OOHCHILD, and it didn't tain my own read. I don't need teaching how to play the game. How am I supposed to know what affects your read and what doesn't? Everybody needs reminders sometimes, even you, o unfallible one. Regarding SnB: On October 30 2013 05:46 strongandbig wrote:On October 30 2013 05:34 Pandain wrote:
Day one scum try to contribute and appear town, but aren't that actually dedicated.
They usually aren't retarded, think through their posts, and still don't try to help town atmosphere.
All the things a scum would do on day one I see in SnB which of these things are not also things a townie without much time would do? i guess the thread atmosphere thing, but how am i hurting thread atmosphere? On October 30 2013 05:42 Pandain wrote:On October 30 2013 05:39 marvellosity wrote:On October 30 2013 03:48 strongandbig wrote:
Also - I'm starting to worry about sentinel's mystery countdown power and why he still hasn't told us what it does. Despite calling koshi scum for not telling us what his power does. I dunno about s&b. This post is pretty bad because Sentinel has talked about his power so many times, I don't see the point in bringing it up again. Then again it looks like s&b actually made genuine effort to go and look at Pandain's games earlier when he talked about his big posts Problem is SnB also made a genuine effort to point out why Palmar was scum in Thug life. SnB can go hard to explain a read he's confident in when it benefits you. The problem is even if he did, was that in the approach to help town or to explain himself. If it's to help town, why share it when really I wasn't under any suspicion. If it's to explain himself, it makes sense to defend me as I'm town and that will be revealed later/he's ultimately right. I don't think SnB is giving an effort to help town, I think his effort ultimately only shows that he's interested in appearing town by posting reads. Has he really attempted to change this lynch or help drive a lynch? dude you were on my team, you KNOW that wasn't a genuine effort because I knew palmar was scum because he was ON A TEAM WITH THE TWO OF US also did even that case didn't involve any actual research into palmar's past games also i forgot that sentinel claimed he doesn't know what his power does. but why is saying that scum motivated. last thing, why would i have attempted to change the lynch when i like it What are you referring to here exactly? On October 30 2013 11:42 strongandbig wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Decided to nuke HCC because (a) I don't like the way he swapped to pandain from wave for no reason, (b) don't like how he powered up koshi for no reason at the very start if the game then attacked people for doing the same to sentinel, (c) don't like how he only talks about me and oo while yelling about going after easy targets, (d) general feeling.
This bothers me because I feel like a ton of people did exactly the same thing but you're trying to find a way to justify your nuke on VA. On October 30 2013 23:19 strongandbig wrote:On October 30 2013 21:43 marvellosity wrote:On October 30 2013 21:41 strongandbig wrote:
It's too late for more nukes
And Marv I'm just surprised people are multi nuking me rather than any of the other actually scummy people around Which two people would you flip right now if you had the chance? Well, I'm actually kind of unsure now about wos. Once pandain made my vote not matter I didn't have to decide whether I believed the turnaround. So like, I would be happy if he flipped but I'm not sure I want to flip him. I think I'd go with ooh child and vayne. Sent I'm struggling with because I feel like the way he played is antitown but I can't see his power going to mafia unless they're all fake. So if they turn out to be all fake nukes at the day post then sentinel. Actially nm I think I still would put wos on the list above sentinel. I just get really bad feelings about how self-focused he was early in day 1 on people who attacked him despite the pressure being largely superficial. I suppose I understand your reasoning at the end of the post regarding why you still want me to flip, but I don't understand why you said you were unsure in the beginning. I also don't understand---do you think OOHCHILD/Vayne/me are all scum together? Because i'm not sure that is possible. 1. Like I said, once I decided I didn't want to kill pandain, I decided that you were a good choice to lynch and better than the other options people were voting for (if there were any, I don't remember). I'm pretty sure I posted something about that where i said i disagreed with promethelax's case but i still thought you were scum. and my filter is pretty short, you must've read that right? 2. "Trying to find a way to justify" vs "explaining my reasons for". If I was scum and wanted to yolo lynch someone, I would've made up reasons for nuking rayn or Marv or someone good instead of vayne right? Or I would have just kept my nuke, but I see no scenario in which nuking vayne isn't worth my life as scum. Especially when I can be pretty sure a revenge nuke is coming (since this is VA we're talking about). Instead, suppose I'm a townie, I've decided to use my nuke before going to sleep, I look around at the players who haven't been nuked yet, and I choose vayne. How does my post in this scenario differ from what I actually posted? (Protip: it doesn't) Also I strongly disagree that other players who had not yet been nuked had done all the things I talked about vayne doing. He was definitely more hypocritical and more suspect than the other people who were still alive and unnuked. 3. The only reason I was unsure was that Marv and prome seemed persuaded by your outpouring of emotion and rage. I think they're both good players so the fact that they appeared to think you were genuine made me hesitant. 4. I don't care who you are scum with. I don't look at potential teams until someone flips. I look for the people most likely to be scum and try to make all of them die. 1) Yes I read your filter, and I had already commented on your disagreeing with Prome's case and calling me scum---we even had a conversation about it earlier yesterday. What I don;'t understand is why you refer to it as trying to change a lynch. There is a difference between soft-defending and opening up your options and actively trying to prevent a lynch. This is mainly why I found you scummy D1, because you are being super wishy-washy about me and half-defending me while still putting weak reasoning for lynching me on top of that (using Rayn as your backup). 2) Any reason you could have come up with for yolo nuking marv (for example) would have been awful, so that's a terrible example. VA is just one of those nukable players, but yes, I see what you're saying in that the trade probably isn't worth it---though this may hinge on whether you believe the nukes are real or not. I suppose that reasoning makes it even less likely if you believe them to be fake, like I do. 3) k 4) k I'd probably downgrade you to null based on this honestly, though I'd still like to talk about #1 if you don;t mind. Maybe let me know on that note what you currently think of Rayn. he's doing a whole lot less than I expect of him. Pandain said I was scum for not trying to change the lynch, i said why would I try to change the lynch if I agree with it. So why did you nuke me wave? First of all, because at that point I still firmly believed you were scum. Second, can you explain a little more thoroughly, I'm really not following. Maybe I'm an idiot. Pandain said you were scum for not trying to change what lynch?
Idk, I assumed he was talking about your lynch. The post of his is quoted in my post that you quoted.
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On October 31 2013 03:00 marvellosity wrote:
I'm still stuck on rayn abandoning WoS to lynch Clarity. It's so unlike townrayn not to be all guns blazing for that lynch.
rayn doesn't mind shouting at me repeatedly if he thinks I should be lynching his target.
On one hand I think Rayn has actively been trying not to be as shout-y as he has been. Thug life is a good example I think.
On the other...I really AM surprised I was able to actually convince HIM of all people at the end of D1. If there's somebody who latches on against all odds, it's him.
About Rayn's power and the circumstances surrounding it---do you agree it is a townRayn-like thing to try and make plays?
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On October 31 2013 03:03 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 03:00 marvellosity wrote:
I'm still stuck on rayn abandoning WoS to lynch Clarity. It's so unlike townrayn not to be all guns blazing for that lynch.
rayn doesn't mind shouting at me repeatedly if he thinks I should be lynching his target. On one hand I think Rayn has actively been trying not to be as shout-y as he has been. Thug life is a good example I think. On the other...I really AM surprised I was able to actually convince HIM of all people at the end of D1. If there's somebody who latches on against all odds, it's him. About Rayn's power and the circumstances surrounding it---do you agree it is a townRayn-like thing to try and make plays?
The problem is, it's not even a play. It's either a retarded mistake or a lie dressed up as a retarded mistake.
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How did you guys catch rayn in the Mafia Championship game on TL? Because rayn would take more control of the game, which he did D1, I had him as town leader. Unless we were really on town only he would not be so easy. rayn would never be so passive is he is scum together with WoS or another scummer that was up for lynch yesterday.
I think.
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^ rayn would take more control as scum.
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I still think it's improbable that he actually thought of "decreasing every number in your role" as good, and "increasing every number" as bad. He had no way of knowing that you had powers with costs, I think in general powers with numerical effects are more common.
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On October 31 2013 03:03 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 02:41 strongandbig wrote:On October 31 2013 02:41 strongandbig wrote:On October 31 2013 02:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 02:26 strongandbig wrote:On October 31 2013 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 01:55 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 01:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 01:50 strongandbig wrote:
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I do
Why am I scum
No one has made a case I can respond to
Also I'm not
Also I'm probably dying at the end of night anyway I will. Give me a few. And marv preflip association bad. I don't want to assume OOHCHILD is scum hard-defending SnB yet. Please don't tell me what's good and bad, I was doing it in association with Prome's own read on OOHCHILD, and it didn't tain my own read. I don't need teaching how to play the game. How am I supposed to know what affects your read and what doesn't? Everybody needs reminders sometimes, even you, o unfallible one. Regarding SnB: On October 30 2013 05:46 strongandbig wrote:On October 30 2013 05:34 Pandain wrote:
Day one scum try to contribute and appear town, but aren't that actually dedicated.
They usually aren't retarded, think through their posts, and still don't try to help town atmosphere.
All the things a scum would do on day one I see in SnB which of these things are not also things a townie without much time would do? i guess the thread atmosphere thing, but how am i hurting thread atmosphere? On October 30 2013 05:42 Pandain wrote:On October 30 2013 05:39 marvellosity wrote:
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I dunno about s&b. This post is pretty bad because Sentinel has talked about his power so many times, I don't see the point in bringing it up again.
Then again it looks like s&b actually made genuine effort to go and look at Pandain's games earlier when he talked about his big posts
Problem is SnB also made a genuine effort to point out why Palmar was scum in Thug life. SnB can go hard to explain a read he's confident in when it benefits you. The problem is even if he did, was that in the approach to help town or to explain himself. If it's to help town, why share it when really I wasn't under any suspicion. If it's to explain himself, it makes sense to defend me as I'm town and that will be revealed later/he's ultimately right. I don't think SnB is giving an effort to help town, I think his effort ultimately only shows that he's interested in appearing town by posting reads. Has he really attempted to change this lynch or help drive a lynch? dude you were on my team, you KNOW that wasn't a genuine effort because I knew palmar was scum because he was ON A TEAM WITH THE TWO OF US also did even that case didn't involve any actual research into palmar's past games also i forgot that sentinel claimed he doesn't know what his power does. but why is saying that scum motivated. last thing, why would i have attempted to change the lynch when i like it What are you referring to here exactly? On October 30 2013 11:42 strongandbig wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Decided to nuke HCC because (a) I don't like the way he swapped to pandain from wave for no reason, (b) don't like how he powered up koshi for no reason at the very start if the game then attacked people for doing the same to sentinel, (c) don't like how he only talks about me and oo while yelling about going after easy targets, (d) general feeling.
This bothers me because I feel like a ton of people did exactly the same thing but you're trying to find a way to justify your nuke on VA. On October 30 2013 23:19 strongandbig wrote:On October 30 2013 21:43 marvellosity wrote:On October 30 2013 21:41 strongandbig wrote:
It's too late for more nukes
And Marv I'm just surprised people are multi nuking me rather than any of the other actually scummy people around Which two people would you flip right now if you had the chance? Well, I'm actually kind of unsure now about wos. Once pandain made my vote not matter I didn't have to decide whether I believed the turnaround. So like, I would be happy if he flipped but I'm not sure I want to flip him. I think I'd go with ooh child and vayne. Sent I'm struggling with because I feel like the way he played is antitown but I can't see his power going to mafia unless they're all fake. So if they turn out to be all fake nukes at the day post then sentinel. Actially nm I think I still would put wos on the list above sentinel. I just get really bad feelings about how self-focused he was early in day 1 on people who attacked him despite the pressure being largely superficial. I suppose I understand your reasoning at the end of the post regarding why you still want me to flip, but I don't understand why you said you were unsure in the beginning. I also don't understand---do you think OOHCHILD/Vayne/me are all scum together? Because i'm not sure that is possible. 1. Like I said, once I decided I didn't want to kill pandain, I decided that you were a good choice to lynch and better than the other options people were voting for (if there were any, I don't remember). I'm pretty sure I posted something about that where i said i disagreed with promethelax's case but i still thought you were scum. and my filter is pretty short, you must've read that right? 2. "Trying to find a way to justify" vs "explaining my reasons for". If I was scum and wanted to yolo lynch someone, I would've made up reasons for nuking rayn or Marv or someone good instead of vayne right? Or I would have just kept my nuke, but I see no scenario in which nuking vayne isn't worth my life as scum. Especially when I can be pretty sure a revenge nuke is coming (since this is VA we're talking about). Instead, suppose I'm a townie, I've decided to use my nuke before going to sleep, I look around at the players who haven't been nuked yet, and I choose vayne. How does my post in this scenario differ from what I actually posted? (Protip: it doesn't) Also I strongly disagree that other players who had not yet been nuked had done all the things I talked about vayne doing. He was definitely more hypocritical and more suspect than the other people who were still alive and unnuked. 3. The only reason I was unsure was that Marv and prome seemed persuaded by your outpouring of emotion and rage. I think they're both good players so the fact that they appeared to think you were genuine made me hesitant. 4. I don't care who you are scum with. I don't look at potential teams until someone flips. I look for the people most likely to be scum and try to make all of them die. 1) Yes I read your filter, and I had already commented on your disagreeing with Prome's case and calling me scum---we even had a conversation about it earlier yesterday. What I don;'t understand is why you refer to it as trying to change a lynch. There is a difference between soft-defending and opening up your options and actively trying to prevent a lynch. This is mainly why I found you scummy D1, because you are being super wishy-washy about me and half-defending me while still putting weak reasoning for lynching me on top of that (using Rayn as your backup). 2) Any reason you could have come up with for yolo nuking marv (for example) would have been awful, so that's a terrible example. VA is just one of those nukable players, but yes, I see what you're saying in that the trade probably isn't worth it---though this may hinge on whether you believe the nukes are real or not. I suppose that reasoning makes it even less likely if you believe them to be fake, like I do. 3) k 4) k I'd probably downgrade you to null based on this honestly, though I'd still like to talk about #1 if you don;t mind. Maybe let me know on that note what you currently think of Rayn. he's doing a whole lot less than I expect of him. Pandain said I was scum for not trying to change the lynch, i said why would I try to change the lynch if I agree with it. So why did you nuke me wave? First of all, because at that point I still firmly believed you were scum. Second, can you explain a little more thoroughly, I'm really not following. Maybe I'm an idiot. Pandain said you were scum for not trying to change what lynch? Idk, I assumed he was talking about your lynch. The post of his is quoted in my post that you quoted.
Ok maybe that's where my inability to understand the context stems from. Why would Pandain assume you were trying to change a lynch of me here? He mentioned I guess that he's not sure if you are trying to change it or support it but that's not what I got out of the soft defenses of me at all---those were way too weak to change any sort of lynch and it was clear to me you actually wanted me lynched. I just assumed it was so a scum you could go back and point out the instances where you wished and washed so as not to be blamed.
Maybe Pandain can answer this stuff himself---he may be a good place to look as well.
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Also. I don't want to lynch rayn based on meta. Because he gets a lot of shit as well for his meta, and the only way to step away from it, is to play more calm as town. It's unfair to force him to play superactive pushy or give him a scumread.
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On October 31 2013 03:06 Koshi wrote:
How did you guys catch rayn in the Mafia Championship game on TL? Because rayn would take more control of the game, which he did D1, I had him as town leader. Unless we were really on town only he would not be so easy. rayn would never be so passive is he is scum together with WoS or another scummer that was up for lynch yesterday.
I think.
I don't know what I wrote here. 0o ignore it unless you speak Koshi.
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On October 31 2013 03:07 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 03:03 strongandbig wrote:On October 31 2013 02:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 02:41 strongandbig wrote:On October 31 2013 02:41 strongandbig wrote:On October 31 2013 02:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 02:26 strongandbig wrote:On October 31 2013 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 31 2013 01:55 marvellosity wrote:On October 31 2013 01:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
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I will. Give me a few. And marv preflip association bad. I don't want to assume OOHCHILD is scum hard-defending SnB yet. Please don't tell me what's good and bad, I was doing it in association with Prome's own read on OOHCHILD, and it didn't tain my own read. I don't need teaching how to play the game. How am I supposed to know what affects your read and what doesn't? Everybody needs reminders sometimes, even you, o unfallible one. Regarding SnB: On October 30 2013 05:46 strongandbig wrote:On October 30 2013 05:34 Pandain wrote:
Day one scum try to contribute and appear town, but aren't that actually dedicated.
They usually aren't retarded, think through their posts, and still don't try to help town atmosphere.
All the things a scum would do on day one I see in SnB which of these things are not also things a townie without much time would do? i guess the thread atmosphere thing, but how am i hurting thread atmosphere? On October 30 2013 05:42 Pandain wrote:
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Problem is SnB also made a genuine effort to point out why Palmar was scum in Thug life. SnB can go hard to explain a read he's confident in when it benefits you.
The problem is even if he did, was that in the approach to help town or to explain himself. If it's to help town, why share it when really I wasn't under any suspicion. If it's to explain himself, it makes sense to defend me as I'm town and that will be revealed later/he's ultimately right.
I don't think SnB is giving an effort to help town, I think his effort ultimately only shows that he's interested in appearing town by posting reads.
Has he really attempted to change this lynch or help drive a lynch? dude you were on my team, you KNOW that wasn't a genuine effort because I knew palmar was scum because he was ON A TEAM WITH THE TWO OF US also did even that case didn't involve any actual research into palmar's past games also i forgot that sentinel claimed he doesn't know what his power does. but why is saying that scum motivated. last thing, why would i have attempted to change the lynch when i like it What are you referring to here exactly? On October 30 2013 11:42 strongandbig wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Decided to nuke HCC because (a) I don't like the way he swapped to pandain from wave for no reason, (b) don't like how he powered up koshi for no reason at the very start if the game then attacked people for doing the same to sentinel, (c) don't like how he only talks about me and oo while yelling about going after easy targets, (d) general feeling.
This bothers me because I feel like a ton of people did exactly the same thing but you're trying to find a way to justify your nuke on VA. On October 30 2013 23:19 strongandbig wrote:On October 30 2013 21:43 marvellosity wrote:
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Which two people would you flip right now if you had the chance?
Well, I'm actually kind of unsure now about wos. Once pandain made my vote not matter I didn't have to decide whether I believed the turnaround. So like, I would be happy if he flipped but I'm not sure I want to flip him. I think I'd go with ooh child and vayne. Sent I'm struggling with because I feel like the way he played is antitown but I can't see his power going to mafia unless they're all fake. So if they turn out to be all fake nukes at the day post then sentinel. Actially nm I think I still would put wos on the list above sentinel. I just get really bad feelings about how self-focused he was early in day 1 on people who attacked him despite the pressure being largely superficial. I suppose I understand your reasoning at the end of the post regarding why you still want me to flip, but I don't understand why you said you were unsure in the beginning. I also don't understand---do you think OOHCHILD/Vayne/me are all scum together? Because i'm not sure that is possible. 1. Like I said, once I decided I didn't want to kill pandain, I decided that you were a good choice to lynch and better than the other options people were voting for (if there were any, I don't remember). I'm pretty sure I posted something about that where i said i disagreed with promethelax's case but i still thought you were scum. and my filter is pretty short, you must've read that right? 2. "Trying to find a way to justify" vs "explaining my reasons for". If I was scum and wanted to yolo lynch someone, I would've made up reasons for nuking rayn or Marv or someone good instead of vayne right? Or I would have just kept my nuke, but I see no scenario in which nuking vayne isn't worth my life as scum. Especially when I can be pretty sure a revenge nuke is coming (since this is VA we're talking about). Instead, suppose I'm a townie, I've decided to use my nuke before going to sleep, I look around at the players who haven't been nuked yet, and I choose vayne. How does my post in this scenario differ from what I actually posted? (Protip: it doesn't) Also I strongly disagree that other players who had not yet been nuked had done all the things I talked about vayne doing. He was definitely more hypocritical and more suspect than the other people who were still alive and unnuked. 3. The only reason I was unsure was that Marv and prome seemed persuaded by your outpouring of emotion and rage. I think they're both good players so the fact that they appeared to think you were genuine made me hesitant. 4. I don't care who you are scum with. I don't look at potential teams until someone flips. I look for the people most likely to be scum and try to make all of them die. 1) Yes I read your filter, and I had already commented on your disagreeing with Prome's case and calling me scum---we even had a conversation about it earlier yesterday. What I don;'t understand is why you refer to it as trying to change a lynch. There is a difference between soft-defending and opening up your options and actively trying to prevent a lynch. This is mainly why I found you scummy D1, because you are being super wishy-washy about me and half-defending me while still putting weak reasoning for lynching me on top of that (using Rayn as your backup). 2) Any reason you could have come up with for yolo nuking marv (for example) would have been awful, so that's a terrible example. VA is just one of those nukable players, but yes, I see what you're saying in that the trade probably isn't worth it---though this may hinge on whether you believe the nukes are real or not. I suppose that reasoning makes it even less likely if you believe them to be fake, like I do. 3) k 4) k I'd probably downgrade you to null based on this honestly, though I'd still like to talk about #1 if you don;t mind. Maybe let me know on that note what you currently think of Rayn. he's doing a whole lot less than I expect of him. Pandain said I was scum for not trying to change the lynch, i said why would I try to change the lynch if I agree with it. So why did you nuke me wave? First of all, because at that point I still firmly believed you were scum. Second, can you explain a little more thoroughly, I'm really not following. Maybe I'm an idiot. Pandain said you were scum for not trying to change what lynch? Idk, I assumed he was talking about your lynch. The post of his is quoted in my post that you quoted. Ok maybe that's where my inability to understand the context stems from. Why would Pandain assume you were trying to change a lynch of me here? He mentioned I guess that he's not sure if you are trying to change it or support it but that's not what I got out of the soft defenses of me at all---those were way too weak to change any sort of lynch and it was clear to me you actually wanted me lynched. I just assumed it was so a scum you could go back and point out the instances where you wished and washed so as not to be blamed. Maybe Pandain can answer this stuff himself---he may be a good place to look as well.
yeah i dont really know what he was getting at but i assumed he was talking about the main lynch at the time, which was you.
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Does anyone have anything in particular they want from me atm? Chances are I'm gone until well after deadline (maybe some phoneposting but not sure).
I may be dead due to nuke but won't get shot so just in case I do die my reads are out there.
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so i looked through rayn's filter briefly, but i can't really make anything significant out of it. I don't have any good heuristic for reading him. I'm a little worried that if he is scum, he's just laying low until they can shoot marv and prome so that he can assert thread control. but yeah, no i dont know
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Incase I die
Power up roles - Sentinel, Koshi, marv, prom, and oats
vote changers - pandain, WoS, Seuss
Unknown/etc - OOHCHILD, rayn, SnB
Gonna go ahead and game the setup here and say there is 1 scum in each of these lists. Clarity flipped the same role that I am so I'm pretty sure there is 1 more VT. SnB is town from this deduction.
OOHCHILD - Now that I know it's kush this doesnt look like his recent townplay at all. He hasn't made any cases or deduced anything worth reading like has recently been the case, he has only been throwing suspicion on random people and then nuking completely different targets. His play is erratic and doesn't make sense. With that said, I don't think he would play this reckless as scum because in an experimental game it's just asking to get shot in the face in some way.
Rayn - Not as aggressive as you would like him to be, although I think it's more of him changing his playstyle then anything. He played like this more in Thug Life and Noire and he was town and scum respectively so it's a bit of a null tell there. On the other hand, he isn't actually pushing anything and has been absent for large chunks of the game where I would expect him to otherwise be. The fact that nobody really has any strong opinions in the game about him yet lead me to believe he is most likely the scum from this list.
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Pandain - What exactly has he done this game? Honestly nothing sticks out in my mind.
WoS - Glad we let him live, 100% town. if you can't see that from his recent posting then go home.
Seuss - From what I understand he is a newbie or close to it and he is simply playing like an earnest one. I don't see any malice in his play he just struggles to not be wishy-washy, probably nervous.
By process of elimination, pandain is the scum from this list.
Sentinel - gave everyone nukes but he is immune to them. 3rd party anyone? Makes quite a bit of sense is how blase he is this game, doesn't really care to weigh in on anything and just sorta drifting away in his own world. The role and his play lead me to believe 3rd party at this point.
Koshi - Similar to pandain, I honestly can't think of what he has done this game. Nuked Pandain though so if im going with my list he isn't scum unless he is a fucking genius.
Oats - Great day 1 play, it almost looked too good to be true for town oats. Recently has started slipping up more. Possibly scum here?
Marv - Not scum as far as I'm aware. He's pretty easy to read, a less annoying yamato.
Promethelax - This is the one I'm the least sure about. The last time I played with him he was 3rd party so I honestly have nothing to base anything off except his play here. Seems a bit too cocky to be scum but that's just a stupid heuristic. Keep an eye on this guy at lategame if we still haven't found the scum on this list by then. He has lapses of logic that just don't make sense at key points in the game.
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On October 31 2013 03:00 marvellosity wrote:
I'm still stuck on rayn abandoning WoS to lynch Clarity. It's so unlike townrayn not to be all guns blazing for that lynch.
rayn doesn't mind shouting at me repeatedly if he thinks I should be lynching his target.
Because Wave got back before the deadline and didn't roll over and die and made good posts. Clarity fucked off when people said he is town.
Vayne is town and SnB deserves many nukes for it. Early game is irrelevant regarding his meta because he obviously tried to play differently than his meta suggests. idk if that makes sense to you but it should.
Prome i have apparently missed the point where kush called himsefl a smurf. Kush's meta that applies now is that he can't read filters as scum because it's boring. Unless someone (like me in Noir) forces him to do that he won't do it and just say whatever shit he comes up with in thread.
I can't use any night powers so i don't really care about this phase. I'll post reads before the deadline but Koshi is so very good and you shouyld listen to him regarding me. I won't probably die and if Koshi dies i will nuke Oats instantly.
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Okay wtf Vayne, why is your read on Koshi full of shit?
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And Pandain.. I don't know what to think anymonre Vayne..
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And when the fuck have i been absent in this game besides N1 (i slept - i am sorry?)?
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feel free to look through their filters and tell me anything interesting. I read through them and nothing sticks out. Koshi makes a case on pandain, summarizes some events, a lot of one liners.
Pandain half his filter is about getting angry at the nukes and the other half isn't particularly useful after the first page where he gives us his initial impressions. nothing after that.
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