EPTHoly, who are your town reads.
You say you will pressure people later, why not pressure them now and lay out the questions so we can see what you're thinking?
Anything interesting from your QT?
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Pandain
United States12979 Posts
Holy, who are your town reads. You say you will pressure people later, why not pressure them now and lay out the questions so we can see what you're thinking? Anything interesting from your QT? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On October 18 2013 12:15 Pandain wrote: Mattchew: 1. When do you plan to start contributing more? 2. What differentiates your town play from scum play? 3. Who are your town reads? 4. Is there anyone you find suspicious now, even if you're not sure. You stated that Mocsta would've made the "correct" play to claim SAM as town, but then you ask if it's policy to lynch any such SAMS indicating a desire to or at least acceptance of. What would be your stance on the issue. 1. idk 2. idk 3. stutters holyflare and grack, yam syllo pandain and LA look pretty town from the limited amount i've read from them too onegu i just explained i had the same thought process as grack (i think it was grack) regarding palmar but I think he has said before himself that he's not a fast starter especially on day 1, and for him to be calling for a policy lynch and calling things as he sees them makes me not want to lynch him day 1 i dont think i'll be able to read raykoshi this game cause im pretty sure i can't read either of them anyway, HF says he can read rayn though so i'll look for that 4. i dont have any slytherin on my town list so that could be a place i would want to start lynching into ET scares me but for no reason belonging to this game has tunk posted in the QT JAT has posted basically nothing so if anyone wants to not lynch, has be posted anything in the QT? | ||
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Pandain
United States12979 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
I trust pandain so far from our QT and I don't see the strong day 1 town play that everyone was talking about in thug life ( where he was scum) This is not even close to the same but i could see it as kind of a defeatist "scum twice in a row ffs" sort of thing. awaiting some more of his posts. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On October 18 2013 12:15 Pandain wrote: You stated that Mocsta would've made the "correct" play to claim SAM as town, but then you ask if it's policy to lynch any such SAMS indicating a desire to or at least acceptance of. What would be your stance on the issue. i answered this and you are skewing my order. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 18 2013 12:18 Pandain wrote: Holy vote Palmar with me until he starts to contribute. Holy, who are your town reads. You say you will pressure people later, why not pressure them now and lay out the questions so we can see what you're thinking? Anything interesting from your QT? I don't think it would add any pressure, just want to hear what he says first before I place my vote. It's obvious if I mention things out of the blue. Would rather communicate with said person throwing out ideas. Looks much more natural so that person would be less defensive and a better environment to scum hunt. We stalked LA's steam and facebook. | ||
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Pandain
United States12979 Posts
On October 18 2013 13:02 Mattchew wrote: i answered this and you are skewing my order. Do you mean this? On October 18 2013 00:02 Mattchew wrote: lol what because i asked if it was standard policy to lynch miller claims? or because i called his play correct from a town point of view? because they are 2 completely separate thoughts having nothing to do with one another What I get from this is that you don't see the connection. If it was correct in your opinion to claim SAM as town, then why would you ask if its standard policy to lynch him if Mocsta made a possible town move. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On October 18 2013 13:06 Pandain wrote: Do you mean this? What I get from this is that you don't see the connection. If it was correct in your opinion to claim SAM as town, then why would you ask if its standard policy to lynch him if Mocsta made a possible town move. yes. i was asking if it was standard policy to lynch a claimed miller. I also said that if you are town and a miller, it is the right thing to do to claim as I read that on mafiascum wiki. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On October 18 2013 13:25 Holyflare wrote: Mattchew, you say stutters is a townread for you? He's posted almost nothing. What makes you say towny? he stood up for palmar when he was an easy target with what i think is decent reasoning | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
Been flat out at work; but caught up and re-read. I am comfortable with a lynch on the following people: Zaragon/Blazinghand Mattchew Onegu I don't care which of the three. These are people I am watching carefully; frankly, some of them would be in the above list if it wasn't for reputation: Syllogism Toad Sn0_Man or StorrZerg Complete Unknowns: Tunkeg Vayne Stutters Palmar The White Elephant in the Room On October 17 2013 23:27 Palmar wrote: @Mocsta: Why did you claim the self-aware miller? What's the point? What did you hope to achieve? (1) Why did I claim self-aware miller? On October 17 2013 08:30 Mocsta wrote: I'm not sure if this is right play to do in a themed closed game. But in a normal I believe you are meant to do this. (2) Whats the point? IIRC, your video of "?Hero Mafia?" you went into the theoretical aspects of claiming SAM; and the outcome was to always claim the role as town. The point was to make the right play for town. (3) What was I hoping to achieve? I played really bad last game. Really bad. I have also been framed two games in a row (with a cop check). People find me hard to read. I was trying to be open with town and provide information that could help them. Either, policy lynch me; or obtain a read on me by judging my play, not a cop check (as has been the case recently) Mocsta, you're a dickhead.. you can't nominate people for lynch without reasoning KK, fair call. Zaragon His filter reads as try-hard to me. As in, he is *TRYING* to replicate aspects of his play from last game in Noir. In that game, I did a very deep stream of analysis on him and correctly diciphered town. His approach to the game is different, and its the small things that I noticed being different. Let me be selfish, and use a quote directed at me to explain: On October 17 2013 23:24 Zaragon wrote: On Mocsta, so far I'm getting the same vibe I had early Noir, towny by personality read with some suspicious hints. I'll put a light town lean on him. Honestly, maybe more than light, considering how that game turned out. This is a backhand compliment in its truest form. If you pay careful attention to zaragons posts here you will notice he is struggling to post; and when he does, they are all town reads essentially. Even when it comes to me; he tries to insinuate suspicion, but then can not follow through. This type of interaction is non-existent in Noir. Though he was a man of few words (as is the case here); there was a congruency in his posts which is absent in this game. BH the replacement doesn't look to be offering anything of value, either. Thus, I am comfortable with this slot being lynched. Mattchew He also had a shitty filter in Noir; and I did make a case on him that gained traction for a period of time (but he was town). Even though this filter is also shitty; in Noir, he still pushed an agenda (that was completely against the grain - lynch town marv). This game, he just feels like he is floating about, making side comments here and there and trying to ascertain what sticks. One of my biggest qualms with Mattchew is his timely delurk when Yamato enters the thread to comment on Raynkonoshi. On October 17 2013 10:38 Mattchew wrote: yo yam, does that mean your thinking what im thinking If Mattchew, really thought the same thing; why does he +1 instead of be an originator? (This is the best representation of floating to see what sticks) Also, On October 17 2013 10:58 Mattchew wrote: nothing, other than that he claimed miller in the first post and that was either really bold play as mafia or smart play as town On October 17 2013 10:59 Mattchew wrote: i want to change my use of "smart" to "correct" This sequence of posts has been bugging me, ever since it occurred. Specifically, why the need to insert this correction. Maybe I am reading into this too much; but, what clicked with me is the connotation. Bold vs Smart. Bold vs Correct. To me: "Correct" infers the alignment is unknown. As its standard play, standard procedure. The action becomes null as either alignment would do it. e.g. breaking up an argument in the thread -> the action can be the correct play for either alignment (its how you go about doing it that counts). Whereas, "Smart" I think is a much stronger word that actually infers he has a town read on me and is of the same opinion. i.e {If I was in his shoes, I would do the same thing - thats a smart thing to do} The point being; I think the word choice of smart was not congruent with his actions (to suggest I be auto-lynched). I think he realised this was a mental slip, and hence, had the urge to clarify in the thread --> when essentially no one else made a big deal of it. Like I said, call this nitpicking or whatever. It is my opinion. Onegu ET hit the apologetic theme on the head. Further, when he has caught up, the items he is bringing up to the fore have already been discussed. Nothing new of value is being proposed. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
You are right though, i wanted to differentiate between smart and correct, that is because i was reading mafiascum wiki Also, i asked a question about if the correct play was to auto lynch a claimed miller... For you, pandain and any other (redacted named calling) saying that i said to actually do it, please stop skewing what i said, it is quite frustrating | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On October 18 2013 13:54 Sn0_Man wrote: I'll admit we had a pretty useless Palmar D1 as town in Boardwalk Empire. He died N1 ofc. By useless I mean it seemed he wasn't interacting with much of the thread and kinda tunnelled stuff that seemed irrelevant, but he did turn out mostly right. I'm stuck on Palmar; because he was pretty useless at the start in Nomination Mafia. Then he flicked on a switch and became a super-town god (IIRC this happened D2). I think as town or scum; Palmar also has to chase the SAM claim; so the action is non-alignment indicative. What *could* be alignment-indicative is his unwillingness to do anything else in the thread, except wait for me. Unfortunately if he wants a live conversation, based on time zones this is difficult. Frankly, I expect much more from a scum Palmar (i.e. not be be caught on something so.... ?obvious?) Then again, in Thug Life he did start he was a MCB at the start. All this mumbo jumbo infers, I have a null read on Palmar currently. Let us see how he reacts to me addressing his question. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:01 Mattchew wrote: Moc that conclusion is (mean word here) You are right though, i wanted to differentiate between smart and correct, that is because i was reading mafiascum wiki Also, i asked a question about if the correct play was to auto lynch a claimed miller... For you, pandain and any other (redacted named calling) saying that i said to actually do it, please stop skewing what i said, it is quite frustrating Okie Dokie. So you respond on one item; why abstain on the other(s). | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
while you are at it. Will you lynch Zaragon? Why/Why Not? | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13910 Posts
whatcha mean i can handle it These are people I am watching carefully; frankly, some of them would be in the above list if it wasn't for reputation: Syllogism Toad Sn0_Man or StorrZerg | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote: Okie Dokie. So you respond on one item; why abstain on the other(s). Cause i have no idea what to say? I buddied yam's thought processed and expressed that in the thread. Yes | ||
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