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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:04 Mocsta wrote: MattChew, while you are at it. Will you lynch Zaragon? Why/Why Not? Thats bh right? I wouldnt care either way if he died... Plus hes syltherin right? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On October 18 2013 11:01 Sn0_Man wrote: Im kinda a mini player. People kinda... blend together in my mind in these games  Free townreads for LA/Toad/ET/SS for now tho. Sn0, you are one of those players that a few are publicly finding difficult to read and/or scummy. Can you please give me a run down on why Toad gets a hard town read. Can you also please also choose 1 of (LA/ET/SS). Thanks sir | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:06 Mocsta wrote: Sn0, you are one of those players that a few are publicly finding difficult to read and/or scummy. Can you please give me a run down on why Toad gets a hard town read. Can you also please also choose 1 of (LA/ET/SS). Thanks sir Not "hard" townreads. More like, No interest in lynching, and i'm lending value to what they say simply because all of them have well thought out posts. I'm considering them town/pro-town until evidence comes up. Toad especially has been decently open about setup speculation stuff that I doubt a scummer would talk about regarding certain anti-town roles in our house. And he's the only useful player in our house QT (me included, i'm useless there). | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:05 Mattchew wrote: Thats bh right? I wouldnt care either way if he died... Plus hes syltherin right? (1) Why do you think he is in Slytherin? (2) How can you not care? This does not make sense; is he scummy or not? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:11 Sn0_Man wrote: Thanks, I'm in ya house too + Show Spoiler + On October 18 2013 14:06 Mocsta wrote: Sn0, you are one of those players that a few are publicly finding difficult to read and/or scummy. Can you please give me a run down on why Toad gets a hard town read. Can you also please also choose 1 of (LA/ET/SS). Thanks sir Not "hard" townreads. More like, No interest in lynching, and i'm lending value to what they say simply because all of them have well thought out posts. I'm considering them town/pro-town until evidence comes up. Toad especially has been decently open about setup speculation stuff that I doubt a scummer would talk about regarding certain anti-town roles in our house. And he's the only useful player in our house QT (me included, i'm useless there). So. Aside from setup speculation: Do you know who Toad thinks is scummy? Has that been clearly outlined? What do you think of his 3 anti-town role theory? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
Onegu, Syllo LastArgument Tunkeg Supersoft Yamato huffle: StorrZerg, Palmar Mattchew HolyFlare Hopeless Grack slytherin: Mocsta, EchelonTee blazinghand I-Be-Pro sn0_man skanjabs1s Gryff: Cephiro Pandain VayneAuthority raynpelikonoshi Stutters695 justanothertownie for those who haven't read and i have no read on zara/bh but if BH doesnt want to post then he can die | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
I agree with your calls though Mocsta, mattchew has been buddy buddying up to people in QT/thread, without giving proper reads, seems to be on the defensive a lot. I haven't checked his meta or whatever to see what he normally does but I'd expect some scum reads at least at this stage in the game. A lot has happened after all. Zaragon/BH, well it's BH's birthday or whatever so it's expected afking but that shouldn't be an excuse either. Your meta points about Zara also are noteworthy, I will investigate for myself. On the flipside BH posts normally contain content and I have reads on him so I would prefer to say, keep him in over other lurkers. i.e. Onegu, Palmar (depends on reactions), Stutters, Sn0 (potentially), Tunkeg??????? Onegu's apologetic posts were already said to be alignment neutral, he says sorry in all factions. However, his posting has been inexcusable since then. Matt has expressed that Onegu's posts (despite lacking) contain what he thinks to be town orientated meta for Onegu. I find it hard to determine based on the meta I've read and what he's posted though, need some actual content. Lynchworthy if posting doesn't seriously pick up. Anyway, Mocsta. There are a myriad of choices for lynching into lurkers that I'd be comfortable with. What I want to know though is your take on the Cephiro situation. He has posted one post in this entire thread - that yes - had content, however, rayn has been mentioning that he's been posting in the QT a lot more and also gave some compelling reasons for a scum Cephiro. His post here: Click me!. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:28 VayneAuthority wrote: as input from another gryffindor I wouldn't feel comfortable lynching cephiro yet. He needs to explain his scum reads and a few other things before his alignment can be discerned. What do you think about rayn's post on him then? Why so much hidden activity? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:20 Mattchew wrote: and i have no read on zara/bh but if BH doesnt want to post then he can die Yes, you are right. I forgot zaragon was in my house. We had a security breach and the QT was closed down. I thought it was because the hosts accidently gave the wrong QT link to BH haha. So even though I wrote a spiel on zaragon being scum: you still have no opinion on zaragon; yet don't care if zaragon/BH die? Very odd to me. See I don't have a firm opinion on Palmar, but don't want Palmar to be lynched. you know, as town.. I want scum to be lynched; not 50/50 reads. Either way: You clearly are trying to make this unproductive; which ironically does nothing to improve my read on you. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:29 Holyflare wrote: What do you think about rayn's post on him then? Why so much hidden activity? said activity really has no place in the thread unless you want more stuff like me/yamato clogging up the thread. its basically just rayn and pandain grilling him and him getting really angry and ranting. nothing really too important and better suited for the QT. but like I said he also has posts in there that make zero sense so he needs to follow up on that | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On October 18 2013 14:27 Holyflare wrote: Yes, Onegu has been apologetic as either alignment, but the fruits promised are not what was delivered. So we agree there.+ Show Spoiler + Town is suffering from a "which lurker do we kill" scenario. I agree with your calls though Mocsta, mattchew has been buddy buddying up to people in QT/thread, without giving proper reads, seems to be on the defensive a lot. I haven't checked his meta or whatever to see what he normally does but I'd expect some scum reads at least at this stage in the game. A lot has happened after all. Zaragon/BH, well it's BH's birthday or whatever so it's expected afking but that shouldn't be an excuse either. Your meta points about Zara also are noteworthy, I will investigate for myself. On the flipside BH posts normally contain content and I have reads on him so I would prefer to say, keep him in over other lurkers. i.e. Onegu, Palmar (depends on reactions), Stutters, Sn0 (potentially), Tunkeg??????? Onegu's apologetic posts were already said to be alignment neutral, he says sorry in all factions. However, his posting has been inexcusable since then. Matt has expressed that Onegu's posts (despite lacking) contain what he thinks to be town orientated meta for Onegu. I find it hard to determine based on the meta I've read and what he's posted though, need some actual content. Lynchworthy if posting doesn't seriously pick up. Look, I am hesitant to say this, but, I do have a scum read on Syllogism. I just don't want to push him Day1 out of respect for his potential as a town asset. One thing that really struck me, is his response to EchelonTeas case on Onegu + Rayn. (1) ET: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052¤tpage=30#581 @ 20.07 (2) Syllogism with a prompt delurk On October 17 2013 20:15 syllogism wrote: I'm not familiar with Koshi's play, but that was my impression as well. Skanjab seemed like a very easy target in the sense that he looked like an easy target. Mafia instinct is to go after those, while townies are a bit more likely to stop and re-evaluate or just reach a different conclusion immediately. His previous post was 4hrs beforehand, so yes, this is a delurk. Which implies that he specifically posted to convey something of importance - making this reaction far more creditable for a scum mindset. (1) In this delurk he AVOIDS TALKING ABOUT ONEGU (2) In this delurk Syllo talks in generics (seemed like.. mafia instinct is to go after those).. Hes not stating this is applicable to Koshi, rather inferring it. (3) Ironically, the instinct Syllogism discusses is completely valid in relation to how Syllo approached the matter himself. Regardless of being a slow starter; I can't see a reason for a town syllo to make this +1 post. Its out of character for a "legend" of the game. ------- So you probably wonder who I would like to lynch first? My best read is Zaragon (mainly out of meta familiarity.. I will be shocked if he is town) However, I would probably suggest Onegu be lynched. If he is town, we got rid of a useless, non-contributing lurker. (Whilst lynching town sucks, its better to get rid of deadweight Day1, then Day 4) If he is scum; we get a good association tell to lynch Syllogism. To me, that is win-win. Anyway, Mocsta. There are a myriad of choices for lynching into lurkers that I'd be comfortable with. What I want to know though is your take on the Cephiro situation. He has posted one post in this entire thread - that yes - had content, however, rayn has been mentioning that he's been posting in the QT a lot more and also gave some compelling reasons for a scum Cephiro. For me, the key difference between Noir/Hogwarts is that in Noir Cephiro kept promising stuff in the thread, but never delivered.His post here: Click me!. Hes not doing that this game, rather, he is being caught lurking because he posted sometimes in the QT. I dont think that is scummy in itself. Based on his big post: I liked it.. I mean, 3 of his scum reads align with mine. And I can't blame him for assuming Palmar is scum ( i really want to think that, but am trying to ground myself).. So with Cephiro, I am happy to keep him around to Day2, but I expect him to keep producing posts like that. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
It's fine to find my in-thread play so far lacking, but that post is you are focusing on is irrelevant. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Why are you resorting to fallacious: argumentum ad populum? What, because others did not find your effort to ignore onegu suspicious, the act is not suspicious? That you reciprocate to my observation the way you, warms my heart as well. ..... So.. whose scum syllo? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On October 18 2013 15:16 Blazinghand wrote: hi still drunk going to slep typical Blazingscum. drinking his way out of his Mafia responsibilities! | ||
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