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LoneMeow
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EchelonTee
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
On October 18 2013 11:29 raynpelikonoshi wrote: ET one question; You seem to be angry? Why? -rayn I'll admit I'm putting it on too hard which is likely because this is my first game in a while. I'll cool it. so yes, I mad | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On October 18 2013 08:16 Holyflare wrote: People seem to be flailing like fish right now. I do not know why. People are defending "slow" players too like it's their god given right to stay in the game. This IMO is utter shit play. You can sit on reads like Palmar to day 3 only to find out he was actually scum all you want, but I will not do it. It does not prove he is town to me and if he continues playing like that during day 1 my vote could most definitely end up on him. Meta works, to an extent, but slow play meta is something I despise. That being said I want to steer this town in the correct direction so some of you people can actually pull your fingers out of your arses and we can win the game. <snip> There are a lot of people in this game, a lot of filters to dive through. I've been reading and re-reading but there is nothing blatantly scummy that I can wholeheartedly see yet When you say people are defending "slow" players, were you referring to Palmar? That definitely did not happen and never will happen. That defense was used to justify my play, but I'm completely absent from your post. You say that slow play meta is something you despite. Have you personally experienced this? I looked at your games and there's only one non-newbie game, so that seems like pretty strong choice of words. Another thing that feels a bit fake about the post is that you start by suggesting that people are "flailing like fish" but you do not know why, and then go on to say that you haven't found anything blatantly scummy. I'm not sure what flailing like a fish looks like in a game of mafia, but meaningless or even contradictory fluff never looks good to me. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
And if you people are going on peoples role names to give them a town read just stop and think about that for a second, it makes zero sense. Again look at examples from other games where people whom were good in the books had scum roles. Although im not caught up yet calling me scum because I say sorry? Yeah sorry about that... Ok still reading. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On October 18 2013 08:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote: There is a growing trend of "this guy might look bad here in thread but he looks good in house QT". I hate that. Same thing happened in GoT where people "cleared" other people by their contributions in house QT's. Easy for scum to call people out even if they look town in QT's, people need to post in thread and look town. ffs. -rayn Although that was true with me in GoT I looked terrible in thread but in PMs any town player I messaged to was quick to put a town read on me. I was town. So dont just throw this out, some people arembetter at putting thoughts together in a smaller forum then a large thread where they get overwhelmed. You dont have put much stock in it but to discard it completely is dumb. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On October 18 2013 11:03 EchelonTee wrote: Looks like I misread the deadline and will have plenty of time to analyze things. Will be home and in it in around 4 hours. @pandain I stated that people should spend more time in thread than in QT and articulated my reasoning behind this with examples and logic; and your response is that this is "bad". Really. If you have more reasoning behind your view then by all means argue with me, but calling me red for this is just laughable. You making me out to be afraid to talk to a small enclosed group is absolutely hilarious btw; if I was scum I would love to mess with the minds of a small group. Just ask Mattchew about when I got him to completely out his role, Palmar's role, and what their actions were going to be. Or when I convinced Meapak_Ziphh I was town and got him to share with me all of town's votes. Whether I'm town or scum I argue with people who come at me with terrible logic; read my past games and you'll see. Besides, your logic here is absolutely terrible. There is no "confirming" a QT; even with detective type classes there are always framers and the like. Even with deaths in a house, you can't confirm if the rest are town or not. Your continued comments on me as a suspect with this weak-as-hell basis is disturbing, to say the least. This is a fucking Harry Potter themed game. If we're all squibs then I should've just signed up for competitive tic-tac-toe. Why has no one commented on my Onegu case? He's gone completely black since posting 3 weakass posts and hasn't even responded to me. Screams scum much more than anyone else at this point; putting my vote on him. Will make deeper analysis when I'm back. ##Vote: Onegu Lol you got me, sorry about that. But for realz you going on about setup speculation and how there are going to be many power roles because it is a themed game is just like you are backpeddleing from a slip and the onlything you have to go on is speculation. | ||
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I-be-Pro
Azerbaijan97 Posts
So my QT didnt work last night, so I didnt really play. that doesn't really make sense to me.Also how can someone backpaddle from a slip into speculation? Is it a slip or is it not? | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On October 18 2013 11:41 Holyflare wrote: @ET: Your case relied upon him apologising a lot, however, all you have to do is check the TL mafia database and look at his previous games. I have checked almost all of them and then did a ctrl+f search for "sorry", it appears in EVERY game many times. So I do not think it is alignment indicative for Onegu, especially to base a whole case off of. + Show Spoiler [Onegu] + Newbie Mini Mafia XLII Mafia Vanilla Endgamed Day 4 Newbie Mini Mafia XLIII Mafia Tracker Lynched Day 3 Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV Town Vanilla Modkilled Day 3 Nuclear Winter Mafia Town Immune One Endgamed Day 5 A Bluelightz Mafia The Attack Mafia Vigilante Survived Day 4 GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4 Desert Mini Mafia Mafia Conditional Vigilante Survived Night 5 Persona 4 Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2 Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 Town Dog Killed Night 3 However, since that case, Onegu has indeed not posted much and so I'll probably add him to my Palmar/Stutters/Sn0 lynchables for now. What I do actually want to point out though is: + Show Spoiler + On October 18 2013 11:03 EchelonTee wrote: Looks like I misread the deadline and will have plenty of time to analyze things. Will be home and in it in around 4 hours. @pandain I stated that people should spend more time in thread than in QT and articulated my reasoning behind this with examples and logic; and your response is that this is "bad". Really. If you have more reasoning behind your view then by all means argue with me, but calling me red for this is just laughable. You making me out to be afraid to talk to a small enclosed group is absolutely hilarious btw; if I was scum I would love to mess with the minds of a small group. Just ask Mattchew about when I got him to completely out his role, Palmar's role, and what their actions were going to be. Or when I convinced Meapak_Ziphh I was town and got him to share with me all of town's votes. Whether I'm town or scum I argue with people who come at me with terrible logic; read my past games and you'll see. Besides, your logic here is absolutely terrible. There is no "confirming" a QT; even with detective type classes there are always framers and the like. Even with deaths in a house, you can't confirm if the rest are town or not. Your continued comments on me as a suspect with this weak-as-hell basis is disturbing, to say the least. This is a fucking Harry Potter themed game. If we're all squibs then I should've just signed up for competitive tic-tac-toe. Why has no one commented on my Onegu case? He's gone completely black since posting 3 weakass posts and hasn't even responded to me. Screams scum much more than anyone else at this point; putting my vote on him. Will make deeper analysis when I'm back. ##Vote: Onegu Nice scum/town slip. I say sorry alot, thanks for looking all that up so I dont have to. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
Need to reread more. but so far ##Unvote ##Vote Sn0_Man | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On October 18 2013 17:25 EchelonTee wrote: Is anyone else having trouble with house QT? I can't access slytherin atm I couldnt open ravenclaw for about 5 hours last night I kept getting a error message so I posted what it said and it gave a link to ravenclaws qt in tech support thread oopps, it has since been deleted so you cant find ravenclaws qt now :p | ||
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I-be-Pro
Azerbaijan97 Posts
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On October 18 2013 18:26 I-be-Pro wrote: @Onegu that doesn't really make sense to me. Also how can someone backpaddle from a slip into speculation? Is it a slip or is it not? He knows it heavly themed because he is scum, when someone calls him out on it the only thing he can do is go to setup speculation. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On October 18 2013 18:33 I-be-Pro wrote: I do agree on Snowman a lot... but I really don't want to vote that Can you give me the timestamps of when he posted in your QT? | ||
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LastArgument
United States152 Posts
On October 18 2013 13:30 Mattchew wrote: he stood up for palmar when he was an easy target with what i think is decent reasoning This is not a great post. The reasoning was meh, because either mafia or town Palmar could make exactly the same posts as Palmar made. Irrationally defending someone who doesn't deserve to be defended isn't a towntell. | ||
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I-be-Pro
Azerbaijan97 Posts
On October 18 2013 18:34 Onegu wrote: He knows it heavly themed because he is scum, when someone calls him out on it the only thing he can do is go to setup speculation. how does a scum know more about this set-up being heavily themed or not? How can it be impossible or at least unlikely for a townie to know that? I'm pretty sure it is heavily themed because it said so in the OP and simply due to the retarded role I got. | ||
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I-be-Pro
Azerbaijan97 Posts
On October 18 2013 18:35 supersoft wrote: Can you give me the timestamps of when he posted in your QT? Actually I can't... Our QT was apparently compromised and had to be redone, so every post from yesterday is just copy&paste from the hosts with a "-Toad" added to it or something like that, so the timestamps are all fucked up. | ||
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LastArgument
United States152 Posts
On October 18 2013 13:53 Mocsta wrote: The White Elephant in the Room (1) Why did I claim self-aware miller? (2) Whats the point? IIRC, your video of "?Hero Mafia?" you went into the theoretical aspects of claiming SAM; and the outcome was to always claim the role as town. The point was to make the right play for town. I think you misremember; Palmar is and always has been staunchly against miller-claiming. He's the only one, however, so I wouldn't concern yourself too much with it. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On October 18 2013 18:38 I-be-Pro wrote: Actually I can't... Our QT was apparently compromised and had to be redone, so every post from yesterday is just copy&paste from the hosts with a "-Toad" added to it or something like that, so the timestamps are all fucked up. what the hell... alright... | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On October 18 2013 18:36 I-be-Pro wrote: how does a scum know more about this set-up being heavily themed or not? How can it be impossible or at least unlikely for a townie to know that? I'm pretty sure it is heavily themed because it said so in the OP and simply due to the retarded role I got. Ok I guess, I really dont like setup speculation though. Going to filter dive now. | ||
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