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On October 18 2013 10:15 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 10:09 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Stutters is capable of making good posts as town. We should lynch him if he does not contribute.
Palmar's "apathy" seems like town!Palmar. I can't really explain that better at this point.
I have no idea of Sno, i always want to lynch him. Need to see more from him.
-rayn My basic problem with this is that even though there is a possibility that he just doesn't give a shit about the thread right now, - He's not acting like it, he's keeping up with the thread and waiting to see if Mocsta responds.
- Along with keeping up with the thread in that regards, he has to also read it, or it's some really really weird counter-productive isolationist approach to mafia that deliberately keeps him ignorant
- It's ultimately not justifiable from a town perspective in a good way, only the I don't give a shit way.
Hope that explains my view on that. Also agree on Mattchew of course.
@Syllo, Can you comment on what you think about Pandain's Palmar comments in this post.
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Not much there to comment, I think. Palmar's play is definitely not justifiable "in a good way" from a town perspective, but I could see town Palmar playing like this anyway. If he doesn't start playing by day 2 or even before n1 ends, we'll lynch or vig him. Right now essentially my only issue with Palmar being mafia is that playing like this is incredibly inconsiderate towards his team.
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On October 18 2013 15:13 Mocsta wrote:
Active lurker syllo
Why are you resorting to fallacious: argumentum ad populum?
What, because others did not find your effort to ignore onegu suspicious, the act is not suspicious?
That you reciprocate to my observation the way you, warms my heart as well.
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So.. whose scum syllo?
I've been active lurking whole game, as evidenced by my posting on the QT and the lack thereof in here. Reading the thread and not posting isn't indicative of much unless there is actually something worth commentating on. Indeed, actively keeping up with the thread is a town tell if anything.
That's not argumentum ad populum. I did not suggest that ignoring Onegu is right or wrong, but rather that it's irrelevant. The point was that no one else was commenting on him either, but for whatever reason me not mentioning him in that one post was somehow suspicious even though I also did not mention 22 other players in the game.
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I'll let you know who I'm voting before the day ends. I realize that this reply isn't satisfactory to you, but you should stop worrying about me and move on as unfortunately I've been given a license not to answer any questions in this game.
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That answer is satisfactory actually.
I never said I wanted you lynched day1 anyways.
If you would care to indulge me with your expert insight, however.
What do you make of onegu?
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There's almost no material at all, but the little that is there is somewhat suspicious for the reasons Echelontree stated. However, he has not replied to my inquiries on our QT either and seems to just not be here. He also apologizes there for his activity; perhaps he really is sorry for not having time. He is essentially a complete gamble.
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Flare already pointed out that echelontea points are null as that behaviour is consistent with onegu as town or scum.
How does this impact your read/observations.
Is there a particular reason you chose to query onegu over qt instead of the thread?
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If that's accurate, then he is definitely even worse lynch and ET looks worse for supposedly looking at his previous games and possibly misrepresenting his style. I've reasons for preferring QT over the thread, but I don't want to elaborate on that. Don't read too much into that, it's just a matter of utilizing the QT for some possible benefit.
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Also syllo.
Can I please have your take on the mattchew smart/correct self-edit.
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I don't have a problem with qt interrogation.
It in this case. I think it's pertinent to understand the content of questions asked.
Onegu is a potential lynch candidate for today afterall.
Are you able to paraphrase what was asked?
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I don't think I can get anything out of that, other than that he was thinking about the issue rather and perhaps even reading mafiascum wiki when he said that. If he was, that's actually slightly towny.
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I noted that he had boasted about his ability to accurately read Koshi and inquired as to whether he yet had a good read. The content of the question isn't important, the answer is. There is no answer, likely because he isn't here.
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LoneMeow replaces Tunkeg effective immediately.
Ange
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On October 18 2013 16:31 syllogism wrote:
I don't think I can get anything out of that, other than that he was thinking about the issue rather and perhaps even reading mafiascum wiki when he said that. If he was, that's actually slightly towny.
I'm dumb. Can you walk me through why it's townie.
He's read mafia wiki. What is the significance of the change/connotation and why is it not a null or scum indicator?
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On October 18 2013 16:33 syllogism wrote:
I noted that he had boasted about his ability to accurately read Koshi and inquired as to whether he yet had a good read. The content of the question isn't important, the answer is. There is no answer, likely because he isn't here.
Thanks syllo.
Fair question to onegu. Hopefully he responds in the thread so the answer doesn't have to be paraphrased
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On October 18 2013 16:43 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 16:31 syllogism wrote:
I don't think I can get anything out of that, other than that he was thinking about the issue rather and perhaps even reading mafiascum wiki when he said that. If he was, that's actually slightly towny. I'm dumb. Can you walk me through why it's townie. He's read mafia wiki. What is the significance of the change/connotation and why is it not a null or scum indicator?
He is putting in at least minimal effort to investigate the issue. It's a very weak indicator either way, but if I had to pick based on that, it would be slightly towny. As for the significance of the change, I can't really come up with anything meaningful. Calling it smart town play isn't suspicious at all and wanting to change the connotation just seems irrelevant to me. I read your perspective on it and I did consider that angle before doing so, but decided that it's really weak at best.
It's possible that it was a slip, but it would have to be a slip that only makes sense in his head and correcting himself certainly is more suspicious than just leaving it there. After all, he also called it bold mafia play.
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Thanks for the q/a session.
My weekend just started and I'm off.
I'm excited to find out who you are voting syllo.
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Don't be too excited, I wasn't implying that I was actually putting in much effort into it or had some unique insight based on the currently available evidence.
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Ohh no. I'm just keen to understand where your line in the sand is drawn.
Anyhow
Deadline is 4am for me...
I still support the 3 candidates I propose earlier.
I will vote for who is leading out of those 3 when I get home.
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