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On October 08 2013 16:28 Dirkzor wrote:
Risen is to consistent but his thought fits a townperson. Starts by voting sloosh (the other wagon at the time) to save himself. Would do as either alignment. See Rayn being pushed - votes Rayn. Now why do this if they are scumbuddies? He was already on town sloosh. He sees the rayn wagon is a Tandembike and votes sloosh again to consolidate. In the mean time HF is voting rayn. Risen is "Hey rayn can get killed" and votes him. The timeline fits. I can't see why he would vote back and forth as scum when he had a good reason just to vote sloosh and be done with it. Not scum
To the bold: because he has to, he made a case on him earlier in the day. He can't NOT vote for rayn.
To the underline: he unvotes his "main scumread" to 'consolidate' on rayn. Does Risen seem like the consolidate-y sort to you? Answer me that seriously. Or does he just go after who he thinks is mafia? Go read his filter in Noir. He's like "fuck it, these guys are mafia and i don't give a fuck what any of you say"
To the second bolded: Again, he can't NOT vote for rayn after the case he made earlier in the day.
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On October 08 2013 18:22 marvellosity wrote:
Dirk, do me a favour and do a little thought exercise.
I'm going to assume you're calling yourself town, and you have to assume I'm town.
How do you think the NK changes the course of things? Example question: if you flipped town, does it make it more likely I'd get lynched d4 than in other nightkill scenarios last night?
I can't see how an Oats NK is good for anyone... Whoever did it wants to lynch me. When I flip town they will probably go after Risen or Marv. Hence it could be all 4 of you.
(im on the phone with soem tech support so my answers might be a little short and fast...)
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I've been Risen's clear "second" scumread behind Oats, and yet somehow the play makes enough sense coming from you that you are now his main scumread?
Explain that to me Dirkzor.
Do you think that the nightkill makes enough sense coming from you that Risen would override his scumread on me and vote for you?
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ugh, it's still ridiculous.
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On October 08 2013 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I've been Risen's clear "second" scumread behind Oats, and yet somehow the play makes enough sense coming from you that you are now his main scumread?
Explain that to me Dirkzor.
Do you think that the nightkill makes enough sense coming from you that Risen would override his scumread on me and vote for you?
I'm not sure Risen had you pegged as his 2nd scumread. Have to look that up.
I don't think the NK makes sense coming from anybody so I can't explain that to you. It makes just as little sense coming from me as it does coming from you or Risen.
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On October 08 2013 18:37 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I've been Risen's clear "second" scumread behind Oats, and yet somehow the play makes enough sense coming from you that you are now his main scumread?
Explain that to me Dirkzor.
Do you think that the nightkill makes enough sense coming from you that Risen would override his scumread on me and vote for you? I'm not sure Risen had you pegged as his 2nd scumread. Have to look that up. I don't think the NK makes sense coming from anybody so I can't explain that to you. It makes just as little sense coming from me as it does coming from you or Risen.
how the fuck have you missed that?
that's really dodgy. it's almost all he's talked about.
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that's really bad Dirk.
you would know this if you'd seriously looked into anyone recently.
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On October 08 2013 18:24 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 16:28 Dirkzor wrote:
Risen is to consistent but his thought fits a townperson. Starts by voting sloosh (the other wagon at the time) to save himself. Would do as either alignment. See Rayn being pushed - votes Rayn. Now why do this if they are scumbuddies? He was already on town sloosh. He sees the rayn wagon is a Tandembike and votes sloosh again to consolidate. In the mean time HF is voting rayn. Risen is "Hey rayn can get killed" and votes him. The timeline fits. I can't see why he would vote back and forth as scum when he had a good reason just to vote sloosh and be done with it. Not scum
To the bold: because he has to, he made a case on him earlier in the day. He can't NOT vote for rayn. To the underline: he unvotes his "main scumread" to 'consolidate' on rayn. Does Risen seem like the consolidate-y sort to you? Answer me that seriously. Or does he just go after who he thinks is mafia? Go read his filter in Noir. He's like "fuck it, these guys are mafia and i don't give a fuck what any of you say" To the second bolded: Again, he can't NOT vote for rayn after the case he made earlier in the day.
No he doesn't have to. He could have stated he was on the phone driving voting sloosh to save his ass and get out. You forget that his own ass was on the line when he first started voting. It makes more sense for him to act like did if he was town. He votes sloosh so he doesn't get lynched himself. See his scumread can be lynched, votes him.
So no I don't follow you here Marv.
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##Vote: Dirkzor
you've not been reading the thread.
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I haven't looked at anything after D1 to be honest.
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Edit: I havent been re-reading anything but day 1.
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so you just managed to miss the argument Risen had with me yesterday, specifically about the fact that I was his 2nd scumread behind Oats and I was calling that out?
ok.
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like literally EVERY RISEN POST it's "oats and marv" "oats and marv" "oats and marv"
christ
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On October 08 2013 18:22 marvellosity wrote:
Dirk, do me a favour and do a little thought exercise.
I'm going to assume you're calling yourself town, and you have to assume I'm town.
How do you think the NK changes the course of things? Example question: if you flipped town, does it make it more likely I'd get lynched d4 than in other nightkill scenarios last night?
Btw that only works if you are town. When I flip town doesn't actually change peoples view of you, does it? If you are scum, which you are, lynching me or Risen is a good play. NK HF or clarity and lynch the other dude. Perfect.
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And yeah you are right about Risen being on your ass. I forgot. My memery is shit.
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On October 08 2013 18:58 Dirkzor wrote:
And yeah you are right about Risen being on your ass. I forgot. My memery is shit. .
On October 08 2013 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I've been Risen's clear "second" scumread behind Oats, and yet somehow the play makes enough sense coming from you that you are now his main scumread?
Explain that to me Dirkzor.
Do you think that the nightkill makes enough sense coming from you that Risen would override his scumread on me and vote for you?
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On October 08 2013 18:57 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 18:22 marvellosity wrote:
Dirk, do me a favour and do a little thought exercise.
I'm going to assume you're calling yourself town, and you have to assume I'm town.
How do you think the NK changes the course of things? Example question: if you flipped town, does it make it more likely I'd get lynched d4 than in other nightkill scenarios last night? Btw that only works if you are town. When I flip town doesn't actually change peoples view of you, does it? If you are scum, which you are, lynching me or Risen is a good play. NK HF or clarity and lynch the other dude. Perfect.
Pretty clearly as I said in this scenario that we're both town.
Reading is hard, amirite? :o
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Easy to make up scenarios that fit your bill... Harder to make reality fit your bill.
As we already established D1, Clarity started the sloosh wagon with me. I ended it with a good, thought out case that made sense. You never did anything other then to hop along and vote. The more I think about it the more I see that you haven't really done anything this game, marv!
You have 27 pages of filter and nothing really beyond pointing out stupid shit, asking questions and calling everyone insinuating you are scummy for stupid.
I'm putting all eggs in one basket and saying you are scum. You even said you would roll over because of the sloosh lynch. I want you to do that.
You are doing exactly what BH foretold you would.
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So basically you're refusing to discuss the game and scenarios because you just want to blindly call me mafia?
That's really helpful Dirk.
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