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On onlywonderboy:
On September 29 2013 05:00 onlywonderboy wrote:
Alright, heavenz calling me out with no facts leads me to believe he is scum. Seems like he's soft role calling Town Cop when he isn't one. His posts just come off as "I have insider information, trust me." With the format of the game we may not even have a Town Cop. If he's going to post that he is certain someone is scum he needs to provide his reasoning for why upfront.
I kind of picked up the soft-claim at the beginning of the day, but you're not really thinking this through. What he said later contradicts the "soft-claim" directly. He claimed he was roleblocked and THEN called you out for being scum (with no evidence, yes). There's no way he's town cop, and your post kind of gives me the feeling of you mis-evaluating the situation and trying to get the cop to come out as scum so that you can kill him the next day. However, he does need to come forward with his reasoning for accusing you
On playerboy:
His big post is now irrelevant with Zaragon's cop claim, I would have liked to have other people's opinions on everything said in there besides my own and Zaragon's but I guess we can move past that now. I am very interested to hear your (playerboy's) reads and defenses now that your theory has been refuted/debunked.
On Jonnylaw and Heavenz:
I previously said that these guys were agreeing a lot and could possibly be a mafia pair. This was due to their reads on day1 and also their voting pattern: they both initially went after stormtemplar and then switched in a very close time period to MLuneth. Their styles on day 1 were also very similar, it was mostly "feelings" on stormtemplar and when I asked them to elaborate they weren't really able to point out anything super scummy about him. Feelings are good in this game, especially on day1.
Today, Jonnylaw is bringing up good points about playerboy, but he disregards the major post of playerboy's as if it was irrelevant. I would have liked him to post his thoughts on that instead of just previous interaction of playerboy/stormtemplar. It's this kind of tunnel vision that i'm worried about. How do your thoughts change when you take into account that post? Is everything he did in line with how you thought of him before? Heavenz, however continues the same way he did on day1, off of feeling and still no real evidence. This series of posts from Heavenz particularly baffles me:
+ Show Spoiler +On September 27 2013 06:28 heavenz wrote:ok, onlywounderboy is behaving pro town because he explains himself and acts accordingly. 1. he's active in the beginning with 1 liners, to start discussion and avoid lurking 2. when you question him about this he answeres explaining himself + Show Spoiler +I think I got scared into writing one liners due to people claiming we were going to lynch non-active people. But, tis true, I should have transitioned into writing more useful posts. This is still my first game so I'm trying to take a lot of it in. I have pretty much zero knowledge of everyone in this game so getting a read off of people on a relatively few number of pages is proving more difficult than I had hoped. That said, stand outs right now:
Jayte: Joke post to start off the game, hasn't contributed anything of value. Isn't trying to cause chaos in the town, but his absence is questionable. Mentions being busy with work, could just be throwing that out so we don't seem suspicious
MLuneth: Had that odd question to start, could have easily asked a coach instead of putting it in the thread.
playerboy: Great analysis of all the players. But, imo, it seemed like a post that was trying too hard to put the spotlight on "Hey, look, I'm helping the town!" I'm definitely not saying he should be a candidate for the first lynch, but just something to keep in mind in the future. then he makes his vote post because he has to go and goes with one of the afk/s which is kinda a safe bet to vote on. + Show Spoiler +Unfortunately I have to be getting to work, so I'll miss any last minute deliberations. I'm going to have to ##Vote: Blurry. He's had plenty of time to defend himself so I'm not sure a least minute appeal would change my mind. He sorta flew under the radar for me, but people have pointed out his lack of contribution I agree it seems problematic. What can I say I don't know if he's really town, but he seems reasonable and constructive to me. I also don't think you're suspicious. Like I said too I don't want to vote Blurry or Bereft. From the active players Stormtemplar and Mluneth are suspicious then we have still Jeyte and xIvanJ, I would be willing to vote them too though On September 28 2013 16:32 heavenz wrote:
if he were town he wouldn't have such issues answering simle questions and didn't have to come it with excuses "was joke soso, low battery can't post, plx no kill me, i post moar i swears"
Zargan, that you indirectly imply that I mistook his word for what it was and not a silly joke on purpose makes you scummy.
onlywounderboy is certainly Mafia
btw I was roleblocked
In what order are the nightactions processed? First town or first mafia?
He says onlywonderboy is town and gives his reasons for it and then suddenly switches completely 180 degrees and accuses him of being scum with no reasoning whatsoever. Are you getting sloppy and giving less of a fuck? I've never seen a switch so sudden.
To zaragon:
I'd like to hear your current thoughts on Heavenz and Jonnylaw. Really on everybody since you're likely to die tonight. But heavenz and jonnylaw are high priority to me right now, and you can save your reads on everybody else till nightphase. Also, no reason to reveal until nightphase unless you or they are about to get lynched.
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Not good, I was hoping to wake up with 10+ posts in this thread, maybe a scum counter claim or smear campaign if Playerboy is scum. If he is, he doesn't have active support. I wish that told us more in this game...
Investigating Playerboy/heavenz/AFKer, Playerboy/onlywonderboy/AFKer and a few other thoughts.
I wish we had time to see more from onlywonderboy, I'm interested in him because he only responded in defense, had that little posting mistake and disappeared. I can still buy him as nervous town though and I really wish heavenz had made his case on him since it would help me read both.
I don't think heavenz is Serial Killer. The only thing pointing to it would be to say he was Roleblocked (which would explain his missing NK, but why would he point it out?) No reason for an SK to do anything but sheep the group/semi-lurk, and heavenz is definitely not doing that. Could be scum motivated to win by lurker game destruction, but I have a hard time buying that--especially since we only have a single claim of being Roleblocked--which is why I really want his reads. I was putting some pressure on, but I actually doubt he's scum. And to be honest, if 2+ of scum are motivated to win that way, they will win. No counter claim on being Roleblocked, which isn't of major significance, but means heavenz gets town credit and should not be lynched today.
Posting more as I have more time.
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On September 28 2013 06:59 BajaBlood wrote:Some thoughts, I'll try to add more as time goes on: + Show Spoiler [Zaragon] +The most consistent pro-town voice in the thread so far. Actually to the point where I would second-guess this read if he wasn't targeted tonight, because I'm not sure why anyone would disagree. This read would get even stronger if no one dies tonight, because then I'm assuming both scum and medic are thinking the same. Obviously, I disagree with his Mluneth vote, but since it was the first vote and had more analysis behind it than later votes, it doesn't bother me that much I'm still trying to process this bandwagon - it happened seemingly out of nowhere (little explanation and right before the deadline). It sounded like heavenz argument was better to lynch a somewhat suspicious afk'er than risk a mislynch on a suspicious active player? Is that an accurate summation of what you were thinking, Heavenz?
Balla24 couldn't seem to explain his reasoning and had to claim it was a mistake (the post where he agrees with me then votes Mluneth was particularly baffling). I'm willing to accept that for now, since it is his first game and I can't really be intolerant of active-but-misguided players when I'm hoping for tolerance on that front as well.
Ugh, my gut wants me to be suspicious of the bandwagon, but from the rest of the thread I'm getting a moderate town read on heavenz and slight town on Balla, so it might be best for me to let it go. Plus even though it was a bad lynch, it's not like the situation was providing us with many better options... Wait, you were expecting me to write more about lurkers after all that?
I almost forgot my mental note to look at this. 1 minute before deadline, just along with Playerboy and setting up for "if Zaragon survives the night". Then even an EBWOP to make light of it:
On September 28 2013 07:01 BajaBlood wrote:
EBWOP - hahaha me and playerboy writing the exact opposite thing about zaragon at the same time. I'll take a look in a couple hours when I'm back from the gym
And a couple of hours later, he didn't do that. Also, the post with the meta information on MLuneth, even if very good, was suspiciously timed (the 7 minutes until deadline I mentioned before). By that time the lynch was set. By itself, this doesn't mean anything, he could've not caught up to how fast people wanted to go MLuneth and not been worried until late. With another just-before-deadline post he looks suspicious in the same way playerboy does.
Baja/Playerboy/inactive is now my biggest scum circle read. I'll check so I haven't missed something that contradicts them planning together.
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EBWOP: Ugh I misread the post this time, now I see why it was just "mental note" and not scum read. Sorry. Filter diving again.
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On September 30 2013 02:53 Zaragon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 06:59 BajaBlood wrote:Some thoughts, I'll try to add more as time goes on: + Show Spoiler [Zaragon] +The most consistent pro-town voice in the thread so far. Actually to the point where I would second-guess this read if he wasn't targeted tonight, because I'm not sure why anyone would disagree. This read would get even stronger if no one dies tonight, because then I'm assuming both scum and medic are thinking the same. Obviously, I disagree with his Mluneth vote, but since it was the first vote and had more analysis behind it than later votes, it doesn't bother me that much I'm still trying to process this bandwagon - it happened seemingly out of nowhere (little explanation and right before the deadline). It sounded like heavenz argument was better to lynch a somewhat suspicious afk'er than risk a mislynch on a suspicious active player? Is that an accurate summation of what you were thinking, Heavenz?
Balla24 couldn't seem to explain his reasoning and had to claim it was a mistake (the post where he agrees with me then votes Mluneth was particularly baffling). I'm willing to accept that for now, since it is his first game and I can't really be intolerant of active-but-misguided players when I'm hoping for tolerance on that front as well.
Ugh, my gut wants me to be suspicious of the bandwagon, but from the rest of the thread I'm getting a moderate town read on heavenz and slight town on Balla, so it might be best for me to let it go. Plus even though it was a bad lynch, it's not like the situation was providing us with many better options... Wait, you were expecting me to write more about lurkers after all that? I almost forgot my mental note to look at this. 1 minute before deadline, just along with Playerboy and setting up for "if Zaragon survives the night". Then even an EBWOP to make light of it: Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 07:01 BajaBlood wrote:
EBWOP - hahaha me and playerboy writing the exact opposite thing about zaragon at the same time. I'll take a look in a couple hours when I'm back from the gym And a couple of hours later, he didn't do that. Also, the post with the meta information on MLuneth, even if very good, was suspiciously timed (the 7 minutes until deadline I mentioned before). By that time the lynch was set. By itself, this doesn't mean anything, he could've not caught up to how fast people wanted to go MLuneth and not been worried until late. With another just-before-deadline post he looks suspicious in the same way playerboy does. Baja/Playerboy/inactive is now my biggest scum circle read. I'll check so I haven't missed something that contradicts them planning together.
Thanks for that, I had stopped looking at Bajablood completely and he seems to just completely not do what he says hes going to do. This has happened multiple times and i'll refer back to a post that I did previously
On September 27 2013 12:29 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 12:23 Bereft wrote:balla, who's your biggest scum read at the moment? this is a pretty weak excuse I really want to start making some actual scum reads here but with this lack of activity I just can't, which is why I think we won't be making a mistake going after the quiet people. xIvanJ and Jayte, and Blurry if he doesn't follow up on his promise tomorrow. I'm reading more into Bajablood's filter atm. He seems a bit sketchy. He's making empty promises: - Saying he will analyze Stormtemplar in the 20 minutes before vote and post his thoughts and then not posting anything about him. - Saying we had his full attention now that he was back from work and that he would post his thoughts on everybody when he has time. It's now getting close to sleep time for NA and still nothing (he is central time) I also agree with you though, he seems to be analyzing the lurkers a lot, which is somewhat helpful but not nearly as helpful as the rest of the stuff he says he's going to do but doesn't.
I'm going to agree with you here on the Bajablood/playerboy pair. WTB some defenses T_T...
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Hey sorry, inconvenient timing for me. I'll be around an hour before voting deadline and gonna check some filters now and see if anything stands out.
Is this game particularly hard to make reads because of all the inactives? Maybe I'm just bad.
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 29 2013 11:36 Zaragon wrote:Show nested quote +The Bereft kill is weird in my opinion, why not go for heavenz/Zaragon who have been way more pro-town with their posts so far? I'd say those two are way bigger threats to mafia (unless they happen to be mafia). The Bereft kill isn't weird if scum thought I could be the doctor target. And has heavenz been more pro town than Bereft was? Have I been? How? Just activity? Besides, plenty of foundation to cast suspicion on me after the vote, if you are mafia and have this thought process. Show nested quote +Your motivation to swap your vote as scum? You thought that you could get MLuneth lynched and that Blurry was likely to get modkilled, if that were the case you could have easily switched to MLuneth in order to maximize your kills. Even if Blurry wasn't going to get modkilled - he seems completely inactive so it would be beneficial for scum to keep him around compared to MLuneth whom you admitted to have read as a vigi. You're giving me a lot of credit and convoluted reasoning in your scum image of me I must say. Maximizing kills by switching target? I was setting that up hours in advance when I stated my reasoning behind MLuneth and Blurry? Just betting they wouldn't show up? If I were making a plan as scum, it wouldn't be that stupid, and it wouldn't depend on people not even playing. Sorry, you're wrong. The quote from me you wanted clarified: "Someone having too strong town reads--playerboy on Stormtemplar based on little, but carefully pushed little--is much more of a scum tell. Sign of knowing this person is town, or protecting a scum team mate." By this I meant, you gave a strong town read on Stormtemplar and quoted specific details of his play as if they were clearly pro town, which I think was far from clear to anyone else at that point. I was willing to chalk it up as a newbie/language oddity, and to be fair, I'm considering that again since I've seen the Stormtemplar ties aren't substantial and came out of misunderstandings. Show nested quote +I don't see how posting at the end of a phase can be considered scummy. I voiced my opinion on MLuneth before my last post that phase and the post at night 1 took me ages to write. I had a shitton of tabs open, rereading stuff for ages to make sure and getting confused the whole fucking time due to the amount of text that I had to absorb, it ended up being done close to the deadline. It reads scummy, because instead of waiting to see what scum is going to do, you make a post setting up for something you expect to happen. You could only know the NK if scum, and only then is your post relevant. All that effort setting up for the day phase, while tensely waiting for NKs? As town? You did the same thing a couple of minutes before the voting deadline, by which time it's too late to change anything, but you look good as scum since you knew MLuneth was town. Show nested quote +Why are you pushing for a Jayte/Blurry lynch? Jayte is inactive and Blurry asked to be replaced. How does lynching these two help town? It gives us no information and puts pressure on noone. Very scummy in my opinion. ....I didn't. I'm town so I state my current suggestion on the next day because I know I can die in the night. I was laying out for heavenz a way town still has a chance even if we stay lurker-city. Sure, I hope for better reads to lynch first, but by now I realized Jayte/Blurry are the lurkers who might be modkilled last since they have shown slight activity, thus best for first lynches if we end up in a situation to clean lurkers. I don't know if you're mafia, playerboy, it does conflict with my personality read on you since the beginning. You'd be an extremely ballsy scum first time player. You're still my top read, but since I'm not certain of you as scum anymore: I'm 1-Shot Cop with a town check (I will reveal them if it gets close to deadline and lurkers don't budge, since it could essentially be LYLO). I'm expecting to die tonight anyway, and I want to get town on track if we can. Maybe you can see my motivations for Day 1 better now, and why I used the word "cop-out" in a casual context (breadcrumb). More reads people, more opinions.
Damn Zaragon why you gotta fuck up my mind? :/
I don't think you fake claiming a role at this point - I believe you are town now.
The Bereft kill isn't weird if scum thought I could be the doctor target. And has heavenz been more pro town than Bereft was? Have I been? How? Just activity? Besides, plenty of foundation to cast suspicion on me after the vote, if you are mafia and have this thought process.
I thought it was weird because you'd be a higher priority kill in my opinion. I didn't really think about a doctor save - I just thought you not dead = chance of you being mafia. Bereft said he didn't think of me as a candidate for a day2 lynch, however heavenz has voiced his suspicion on me before (he thought there was a possibility that me and stormtemplar could be scum together). If I were scum wouldn't it be more beneficial for me to nightkill heavenz instead of Bereft?
You're giving me a lot of credit and convoluted reasoning in your scum image of me I must say. Maximizing kills by switching target? I was setting that up hours in advance when I stated my reasoning behind MLuneth and Blurry? Just betting they wouldn't show up? If I were making a plan as scum, it wouldn't be that stupid, and it wouldn't depend on people not even playing. Sorry, you're wrong.
The quote from me you wanted clarified: "Someone having too strong town reads--playerboy on Stormtemplar based on little, but carefully pushed little--is much more of a scum tell. Sign of knowing this person is town, or protecting a scum team mate."
By this I meant, you gave a strong town read on Stormtemplar and quoted specific details of his play as if they were clearly pro town, which I think was far from clear to anyone else at that point. I was willing to chalk it up as a newbie/language oddity, and to be fair, I'm considering that again since I've seen the Stormtemplar ties aren't substantial and came out of misunderstandings.
I guess you're right on your first point, not much I can argue with there.
I kind of understand now with why you think the post was "fluffy" (as you put it). The quote was 4 lines and basically all it said was: Jayte is inactive he needs to show up.
It reads scummy, because instead of waiting to see what scum is going to do, you make a post setting up for something you expect to happen. You could only know the NK if scum, and only then is your post relevant. All that effort setting up for the day phase, while tensely waiting for NKs? As town? You did the same thing a couple of minutes before the voting deadline, by which time it's too late to change anything, but you look good as scum since you knew MLuneth was town.
Well, I guess I just learned something: if you are going to post wait for a phase to end (if it's almost ending that is).
"You could only know the NK if scum, and only then is your post relevant." Can you clarify this? I don't see how my post would be irrelevant if someone other then Bereft would have been NK'd (well unless you/Balla24/onlywonderboy got NK'd).
....I didn't. I'm town so I state my current suggestion on the next day because I know I can die in the night. I was laying out for heavenz a way town still has a chance even if we stay lurker-city. Sure, I hope for better reads to lynch first, but by now I realized Jayte/Blurry are the lurkers who might be modkilled last since they have shown slight activity, thus best for first lynches if we end up in a situation to clean lurkers.
I don't know if you're mafia, playerboy, it does conflict with my personality read on you since the beginning. You'd be an extremely ballsy scum first time player.
You're still my top read, but since I'm not certain of you as scum anymore:
I'm 1-Shot Cop with a town check (I will reveal them if it gets close to deadline and lurkers don't budge, since it could essentially be LYLO). I'm expecting to die tonight anyway, and I want to get town on track if we can.
Maybe you can see my motivations for Day 1 better now, and why I used the word "cop-out" in a casual context (breadcrumb).
More reads people, more opinions.
Don't you think it's likely that you will be protected by the town doctor tonight? Especially now that you've claimed a role and are willing to reveal your town check?
I have to say that I still don't necessarily agree with lynching Jayte/Blurry but I understand that if we get no better reads in the meantime we'll be forced to either lynch one of those two, vote for a no-lynch or make a complete gamble and lynch a random person who feels scum. I'd still like to avoid lynching inactives if possible though :/
On September 29 2013 13:35 Balla24 wrote:
On playerboy:
His big post is now irrelevant with Zaragon's cop claim, I would have liked to have other people's opinions on everything said in there besides my own and Zaragon's but I guess we can move past that now. I am very interested to hear your (playerboy's) reads and defenses now that your theory has been refuted/debunked.
I feel horrible now that my theory has been refuted, what else? I still think onlywonderboy is scum, and would appreciate it if people would read through his filters as I feel like his posts are scummy.
On September 29 2013 14:31 stormtemplar wrote:
Could heavenz maybe be SK? His overall attitude is sorta seems like "$@#$ it all" which I wouldn't expect of mafia or town. Perhaps his odd play could be a result of clumsily attempting to harm both teams? I do agree that him and jonnylaw did tunnelvision onto me in a way I found surprising, but I'm not feeling Jonny as scum, especially if playerboy is.
I think we should lynch playerboy, he's the scummiest player right now, and if we're right and he flips scum it makes it much more likely that both jonny and myself are town, as it would be very odd for us to buss a teammate before there was any real pressure on him in the first place. I also feel like his defense feels too tense and angry, a townies defense should be colored by the fact that they want to stop the town from making a mistake, they want to live not only because they want to survive, but more importantly because killing them will hurt the town. I know my feeling when defending myself was "Oh crap, we really can not afford to lynch another townie, I really need to convince them they're making a mistake." Playerboy's whole attitude is more tense, aggressive and combative then I'd expect from someone in this mentality.
Zaragon, I was thinking about your point that playerboy is oddly aggressive as a first time mafia. That is true, but passivity among inexperience mafia is a rule that is not without exception, especially since it is so well know. I could see someone with a naturally aggressive playstyle deciding that they'd avoid looking like mafia by wildly attacking the first person they could. Add to the fact that he's tried his absolute best to discredit you, when you are arguably the town leader. It actually seems like a decent plan when playing with fellow newbies, if you can pull it off you'll start off a disfuntional debate that is totally misdirected, and maybe even get someone who is deeply pro-town lynched and break the back of the town while at it.
It is possible that Playerboy is simply a misguided and overagressive townie, but I'm not feeling it. Most of his posts have been low on content, and I haven't liked the logic on many of his arguments, when he actually does post.. (If people would like I can post a point by point, but it's late and I don't want to do it now, and honestly I don't think it's necessary.)
I think I want to go back and read through the filters of some of our lower key players and see if I can get any reads, because I feel like we have at least one scum player who hasn't fallen under suspicion yet. Going to bed now, it's 1:30 AM and I have stuff to do tomorrow morning.
On heavenz being SK: if he indeed got RB'd and is SK it could make sense as there was only one kill that night, on the other hand our SK might aswell be an inactive which could explain that, I don't know but I can't find any support for this argument in his filter.
I also feel like his defense feels too tense and angry, a townies defense should be colored by the fact that they want to stop the town from making a mistake, they want to live not only because they want to survive, but more importantly because killing them will hurt the town. I know my feeling when defending myself was "Oh crap, we really can not afford to lynch another townie, I really need to convince them they're making a mistake." Playerboy's whole attitude is more tense, aggressive and combative then I'd expect from someone in this mentality.
I'm sorry but I disagree with this. There was zero anger in my post, my apologies if you felt like there was, if so it was unintentional.
Add to the fact that he's tried his absolute best to discredit you, when you are arguably the town leader.
I want to urge you to check the previous newbie mini mafia game. The town leader in that game was Umasi - guess who was scum? Umasi.
Being a town leader doesn't make you towny, there is no way you can be sure that someone is town unless you are a mason, you've performed an investigation or someone has undenyable proof (a role claim for example). Blindly following the town leader is scummy if anything.
It is possible that Playerboy is simply a misguided and overagressive townie, but I'm not feeling it. Most of his posts have been low on content, and I haven't liked the logic on many of his arguments, when he actually does post.. (If people would like I can post a point by point, but it's late and I don't want to do it now, and honestly I don't think it's necessary.)
EXCUSE ME? DID YOU EVEN READ ANY OF MY POSTS? Please do provide a point by point post as this is just plain bullshit in my opinion.
Sorry for not being able to post earlier, I woke up late because I went to sleep late and when I woke up I had to leave to the airport because a friend of my parents was leaving (heard about it when I woke up, didn't know this before). I haven't refreshed the page for a while now and will probably post more after refreshing/reading more. I'm definitely around for now though - might not be able to be here for the deadline because I have to wake up early tomorrow but I'll be here for another 2 hours atleast I think.
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Okay real quick overview.
Bajablood seems town. I'm almost positive to be honest. Zaragon, I hope he's town. Otherwise we got outplayed badly.
Heavenz is either mafia getting lazy because they feel like it's GG or he's a frustrated townie because of the afks (as am I). I'm honestly a bit torn at this point. Heavenz has been eager to bandwagon people, but I've had similar reads.
Until someone shows otherwise heavenz and playerboy are so very, very scummy. And if they're not then onlywonderboy is and we lose?
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EBWOP, uhhh let me read this huge playerboy post. He deserves a chance to redeem himself.
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I really don't see how you guys can even think that I'm more scummy than onlywonderboy, I provide analysis and even though some of it may be proven wrong (the zaragon/Balla24/onlywonderboy case for example) I've done my best to hunt for scum, can the same be said for onlywonderboy? His posts provide nothing new and he isn't even bothering to hunt for scum. He is my strongest scum read and I'm gonna use my second vote on him unless someone can make me believe otherwise.
##Vote onlywonderboy
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Bereft United States. September 27 2013 12:13. Posts 584
this guy's posting has been waaay subpar, especially coming from a TL writer! i want to call out this post in particular:
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the threatened lynch on lurkers should make you one to SPEAK UP if anything, not post pointless one liners. also calls playerboy's post "great analysis", which i believe others have called out as well. what exactly did you find great? he hasn't clarified this but says he will. i'll be waiting to see what he says. his vote on blurry also seems like a 'safe' vote, in that other players (myself, zaragon to name a few) have already tossed blurry's name about as someone whose current posting is deviating from his pro-town posting in previous games. right now, i say wonderboy's a pretty decent candidate for the lynch.
I don't think much has changed, besides ofcourse that bereft died
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Bereft United States. September 27 2013 12:13. Posts 584
this guy's posting has been waaay subpar, especially coming from a TL writer! i want to call out this post in particular:
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the threatened lynch on lurkers should make you one to SPEAK UP if anything, not post pointless one liners. also calls playerboy's post "great analysis", which i believe others have called out as well. what exactly did you find great? he hasn't clarified this but says he will. i'll be waiting to see what he says. his vote on blurry also seems like a 'safe' vote, in that other players (myself, zaragon to name a few) have already tossed blurry's name about as someone whose current posting is deviating from his pro-town posting in previous games. right now, i say wonderboy's a pretty decent candidate for the lynch.
I don't think much has changed, besides ofcourse that bereft died.
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It's a difficult game. 1 inactive scum gives us few links to work on. 2 inactive scum means not a single lead we have is going to be correct unless the 1 active majorly messes up.
A note for Balla by the way: no-lynch isn't an option in this setup
A note on Baja/playerboy timing and play: I'm hesitating based on their contradiction in their suspiciously timed posts. It would be good if a third scum were backing playerboy, but pretty useless if a third scum is inactive.
Baja could be considered on his own merit as scum with no playerboy attached, so I'm filter diving based on either an active scum threesome or checking if I like Baja as outlier scum, currently.
At this point my main suspicions lie with playerboy or onlywonderboy.
Still scumminess around Stormtemplar, I wish he would give more reads on more people, but a few of his posts have struck me as genuine and my personality read forming on him is starting to fit with how he has played, as town. Currently neutral/slightly scummy to me.
JonnyLaw is not reading quite as tense anymore and contributes well with a motivation that reads slightly on the town side of neutral (I really hope we don't end up with inactives ruling the game and someone like JonnyLaw pulling it through, but I doubt it right now)
Ouhc, Playerboy, if you're town, please don't address who the doc might or should save. Keep in mind the possibility we could only have a 1-Shot Doc or two or whatever, and discussing anything around this only helps scum
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It's hard to assume that the away player & Beja are scum, because of his willingness to vote either of them immidiatly.
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you mentioned it probably, but playerboys voting behavior is scummy. It almost seems like he knew that mylunch was town, and went for wounderboy knowing he wouldn't get a majority on that player that time, effectivly throwing his vote away, just to get some town credit (or end up on the misslynch group).
then again, I share berefts thoughts on wounderboy, and have to agree with playboy that he never participated in anyway in a analysis of a player he thought was scummy. He just posted like I feel bad about him, but never bothered to do dig deeper.
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On September 30 2013 03:37 Zaragon wrote:
Ouhc, Playerboy, if you're town, please don't address who the doc might or should save. Keep in mind the possibility we could only have a 1-Shot Doc or two or whatever, and discussing anything around this only helps scum
My apologies, didn't realize that :/
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On September 30 2013 03:49 heavenz wrote:
you mentioned it probably, but playerboys voting behavior is scummy. It almost seems like he knew that mylunch was town, and went for wounderboy knowing he wouldn't get a majority on that player that time, effectivly throwing his vote away, just to get some town credit (or end up on the misslynch group).
then again, I share berefts thoughts on wounderboy, and have to agree with playboy that he never participated in anyway in a analysis of a player he thought was scummy. He just posted like I feel bad about him, but never bothered to do dig deeper.
You do realise that my vote was going to be null no matter what right? Blurry and Jayte got two votes - MLuneth got four, my vote wouldn't have made a difference anyways, what's the point on hopping on a lynchtrain?
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