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BajaBlood
United States205 Posts
On September 26 2013 23:00 heavenz wrote: I would advice to vote for Jayte assuming that xIvanJ get's modkilled or replaced. Good point. If as we get closer to the deadline it seems like xIvanJ isn't going to vote, I'd probably change my vote. At this point, that would mean a vote for Jayte. | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
On September 26 2013 22:29 onlywonderboy wrote: I think I got scared into writing one liners due to people claiming we were going to lynch non-active people. But, tis true, I should have transitioned into writing more useful posts. This is still my first game so I'm trying to take a lot of it in. I have pretty much zero knowledge of everyone in this game so getting a read off of people on a relatively few number of pages is proving more difficult than I had hoped. That said, stand outs right now: Jayte: Joke post to start off the game, hasn't contributed anything of value. Isn't trying to cause chaos in the town, but his absence is questionable. Mentions being busy with work, could just be throwing that out so we don't seem suspicious MLuneth: Had that odd question to start, could have easily asked a coach instead of putting it in the thread. playerboy: Great analysis of all the players. But, imo, it seemed like a post that was trying too hard to put the spotlight on "Hey, look, I'm helping the town!" I'm definitely not saying he should be a candidate for the first lynch, but just something to keep in mind in the future. Mate, all you've done here is repeat some one liners and suck up to playerboy, now I've read some of your LoL articles and they're pretty good, so I believe that you can do significantly better than that. Super Scummy post as it ads nothing at all to any discussion | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On September 26 2013 23:41 MLuneth wrote: Mate, all you've done here is repeat some one liners and suck up to playerboy, now I've read some of your LoL articles and they're pretty good, so I believe that you can do significantly better than that. Super Scummy post as it ads nothing at all to any discussion I said the analysis was pretty good, but I said to be wary of playerboy. I would hardly consider that sucking up. Some of this is my fault for not jumping into the discussion earlier, but there haven't been that many posts to analysis, so of course I'm going to retread some territory. People were calling me out so I tried to be upfront with my opinions. Not scummy, just responding to the people asking to know where I stand. | ||
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playerboy345
Netherlands194 Posts
On September 26 2013 22:29 onlywonderboy wrote: playerboy: Great analysis of all the players. But, imo, it seemed like a post that was trying too hard to put the spotlight on "Hey, look, I'm helping the town!" I'm definitely not saying he should be a candidate for the first lynch, but just something to keep in mind in the future. I appreciate it, and I really like that you don't trust me right of the bat just because I wrote a massive wall of text, I would have questioned you if you weren't being cautious. On September 26 2013 22:25 BajaBlood wrote: That aside, I think your analysis is good, playerboy. I appreciate the effort you're putting into the thread. Definitely getting a good vibe. I can understand where you are coming from with your perspective on me - you're welcome to continue to see if I' appear to be acting irrationally regarding Jayte as the game goes on. The only other thing I disagree with is on the heavenz part - you yourself (and I did this too) said you had a greenish read to Zaragon but didn't have much to support it, why is it odd that heavenz does too? Like I said, those are only my "feels" for now, nothing is set in stone and there is still a decent amount of time left untill the nightphase, we should use this time to keep people talking, the more people talk, the more likely it is that they'll say something they weren't supposed to say. It wasn't really odd, but I would really like to know why he thinks that Zaragon is towny, writing that someone is town is easy, backing it up with arguments is a bit harder, but it can convince people that your opinion is the right one. On September 26 2013 23:00 heavenz wrote: I would advice to vote for Jayte assuming that xIvanJ get's modkilled or replaced. I think xIvanJ will be modkilled, he has only posted once so far and it wasn't an impressive one at that (just agreeing with things that have already been said). Jayte hasn't really been all that productive, and his low post count isn't really helping either so that means I will put my vote on Jayte for now, would really like it if he could defend himself as I really don't want to mislynch :/. That doesn't mean I'm not suspicious of BajaBlood anymore though <3 (I appreciate you taking the time to defend yourself though, definitely a plus in my book). ##Vote: Jayte | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
First off: MLuneth's re-entry into the thread is just as confusing as his entry. He opens again with an odd post in On September 26 2013 16:26 MLuneth wrote: Time for my first scum read: heavenz I think he is scum because:
The two points he makes I just flat out disagree with. I think heavenz was making pro-town moves at a point in time that there wasn't really much else going on so it WAS very useful. Past game information is always useful albeit unreliable, and trying to start conversations by asking questions (however relevant or irrelevant they are) is good. We needed discussion at that point in time and he started some. Secondly, many of us discussed the lurker lynching pretty in depth and i thought it was decided that we need to pressure them by threatening the lynch (Zaragon, Me, Heavenz). You even bringing that back up is kind of anti-town. Not only that, but Heavenz wasn't the only one pro-lurker-lynch and I think it's odd that you single him out like this. Suspicious, IMO, but i'd rather spend this day working on getting us into a productive active mode and going after quiet people. Especially now that we are close, we have 3 people who are insanely quiet out of 13, that's NO GOOD. Out of a possible 4 scum that means there's a 30% chance that any one person is scum, I'm willing to take that risk on a quiet person if they don't speak up and offer some good information and become interested. Really unnaceptable, so I'm agreeing with BajaBlood, playerboy and stormtemplar on this one. and final note on the BajaBlood suspiciousness... I don't really agree with that. He's targetting 2 quiet people, and I don't honestly think it matters which one we go after. They need to step up. That's all i have to say about that. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
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Zaragon
Sweden235 Posts
On September 26 2013 16:26 MLuneth wrote: Time for my first scum read: heavenz I think he is scum because:
MLuneth, I don't agree with anything at all in that post. Feels like you're constructing a case; heavenz has been posting pro-town things. I suppose you could be town with a very early tunnel thought, but you feel scummy now. If you think you really have a case and you are town, go look at the previous newbie game linked and see if you notice something scummy heavenz was doing that he's replicating now. Barring that, I'm putting you in my top four scum. Blurry... still nothing. Could have real life explanations, but I have a bad feeling he rolled scum, started working on his first post being as pro town as possible, then realized he didn't know how to follow up as scum. I want to vote for him the most out of the lurkers, to be honest. Still nothing on the other two lurkers obviously. Better not overdevelop towny reads at the moment, need to reread thread and see if it'd be good or bad for town to try | ||
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playerboy345
Netherlands194 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:01 Balla24 wrote: and final note on the BajaBlood suspiciousness... I don't really agree with that. He's targetting 2 quiet people, and I don't honestly think it matters which one we go after. They need to step up. That's all i have to say about that. I agree with you here, both xIvanJ and Jayte need to defend themselves, we know that Jayte is around so I really want to know what he has to say for himself. xIvanJ however has only made a single post so far and it doesn't seem like he is going to post any more, probably will get replaced/modkilled. About the BajaBlood suspicion, I didn't say it was a 100% scumtell, it's just something that seemed off to me, however after reading his defense it made a decent amount of sense. I'm still keeping my eye on him though. | ||
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heavenz
Austria301 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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Zaragon
Sweden235 Posts
MLuneth or Blurry IMO. Xlvanj is just a policy lynch, Jayte said something half-way decent that is non-indicative to me. MLuneth is trying to make cases that simply contradict pro town play, as if he's against contribution or meta information and talking about "clogging up" a thread that is only 9 pages as I'm writing this. It needs more contribution, not less. Blurry I want to see write, and give a thought process behind his first post. And input on MLuneth. Currently, ##Vote Blurry | ||
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Zaragon
Sweden235 Posts
If Blurry shows up or there is any good town case on MLuneth, I would like to switch to a lurker at the end. But MLuneth's play is scummiest so far, Blurry's only very meta-scummy. | ||
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Zaragon
Sweden235 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
I want to see Blurry participating more but until he does I'm assuming he's trying to fly under the radar as scum. He has 3.5 hours to redeem himself. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
His first post was good but not enough to give any read. I really hope he contributes something soon because his lack of participation is hurting the game and his chances of surviving the lynch. + Show Spoiler [playerboy345] + He's been active in trying to move discussion forward throughout the game. Feels okay to me for now. + Show Spoiler [heavenz] + heavenz willingness to question people's reads puts him out there more than he may want at this point if he was scum. Again, seems all right to keep around for now. He's contributing and trying to force slips out of people. + Show Spoiler [onlywonderboy] + owb I've read most of your LOL material. You can write and critically think. WHAT did you like about playerboy's analysis in particular? What are your opinions on the other twelve players in this game? I'm not liking the read I'm getting here. + Show Spoiler [stormtemplar] + stormtemplar is looking scummy to me. He writes a lot and yet says nothing. He's basically said he agrees zaragon might be town, he doesn't know about playerboy and death to all lurkers while telling others to contribute more to the thread. He's trying to misdirect and confuse discussion rather than forwarding it which I do not care for. + Show Spoiler [Zaragon] + Zaragon has been making similar reads to my own throughout the game and pushing for strong participation. He definitely feels more town than many others in the game. His willingness to focus on particular people could mean he's trying to get attention away from himself and the rest of the mafia but for now it's too early to say. I give him the benefit of the doubt. + Show Spoiler [Balla24] + Balla24 reads fairly town. He's been agreeing with heavenz and Zaragon whom I also like for the town. I could be getting fooled here and there are two mafia in their threesome. For now, there's better options to lynch though. + Show Spoiler [xIvanJ is useless] + One outta 13 aint too bad boys. Hopefully our replacement can play. + Show Spoiler [Jayte] + Could be lurking as a mafia. I just can't read him from the level of content he's put out. + Show Spoiler [MLuneth] + I want to call this guy scum from my gut. I really, really want to do it. But re-reading his posts just make me think he's a bit hasty and not scum at all. There are grammatical errors, shortened words and that half written post he managed to post. I dunno, he doesn't feel like mafia at this point in the game. + Show Spoiler [BajaBlood] + Hasn't said a lot. Could be leaning mafia, but he's okay for now. + Show Spoiler [bereft] + I know he said he'd be busy but why is no one mentioning his inactivity? Still, not the best candidate for a lynch. Okay here's my summation. Blurry, bereft (who did say he would be busy), Jayte and xIvanJ are inactive. I still think we should look for a better lynch candidate for today. I like zaragon, balla24 and heavenz contribution but I might be getting fooled because they seem to agree quite often. But hell, they're reasonable opinions. Time to see where people cast their votes. I've read through stormtemplar's posts multiple times now. He literally says nothing in them. Firstly, I hardly think the "Lurker topic" was irrelevant. It was the discussion starter and what was going on in the thread at the time. I hardly think you can throw that away as, rather undercutting your point about my lack of contribution. Clogging conversation after being accused of being scum. However, as to your point about me just joining Zaragon on playerboy, no, not at all. As a matter of fact, I'm not really feeling zaragon's read on him. I'm not getting solid town vibes out of him at all. He's contributed rather minimally. (7 of his posts are 1-2 lines with maybe a quote.) I disagree and he's just trying to change the focus away from himself. Until he puts up a better defense of himself #vote stormtemplar | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
Currently xIvanJ, Blurry and Jayte all have one vote. I stand by the fact that voting them off TODAY is the correct decision. stormtemplar has shown scummy behavior and those three could still be town and contribute to the game. In three days I'm cool with voting them off if they're not active or they look like scum. But unless stormtemplar successfully defends himself in the next two hours I'm advocating that we lynch him. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
@JonnyLaw I'll respond to your inquiry when I have more time. Short version is I liked that he was putting the time into profile everyone, not that I really agreed with all the analysis. "Great" might have been too strong of a word I suppose. | ||
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BajaBlood
United States205 Posts
At this point, I think it's best to go for the scummiest player. In case this sounds contradictory to my pushing on lurkers both in the policy discussion and my vote, my goal throughout early-mid Day 1 was to make sure there was not a consensus that lurkers would avoid getting lynched - I was hoping that fear of a policy lynch would drive a few more people back into the thread. Looks like it wasn't entirely successful.. I honestly don't have time until I get off work to go through the case on stormtemplar or look through filters myself. I will try to do this as far in advance of the time deadline as possible. In the meantime, it's been rightfully pointed out that lynching xIvanJ is not a good move for us. In case I'm unable to get back to this thread in time, here is my next vote. ##Unvote ##Vote: Jayte Ok I need to stop slacking... This game is going to get me in trouble, lol | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
@JonnyLaw I'm not sold on stormtemplar's behavior being scummy. I would like to both hear more from you about it on why you think his posts have been scummy and also stormtemplar's defense. But at this point I'm not really reading scum from his posts besides the fact that he hasn't really shared tooo much about his reads and has just been going off of others. At least he is disagreeing with people which I like. With that said. We are almost 2 hours from voting and none of the inactive people have shown their faces. We have been asking for them to talk for 2 days now and nothing. Now which one should we lynch? Here i'm going to have to go with ##Vote: Blurry. He started off with a good 1st day post (very early in the game mind you), and then nothing for 2 days straight. Not only is this completely different from his previous game (which I don't think carries too much weight) but he just doesn't seem interested. One last thing though. Both him and xIvan have only posted once and people are saying xIvan is probably going to get modkilled...would Blurry then also get modkilled? | ||
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