EPTWe just really need to hear from the quiet ones at this point though, they are really stalling the game and it's been a whole 24 hours. Some people have 1/2 posts only and have been quite weird. If we're not going to hear from them though, i'd like to hear a bit more from Heavenz now that some time has passed, maybe there are more insights about how people are acting first day compared to that last game they played together. Blurry specifically, as his opening post -> sudden quietness is worrying from what I hear so far about his play.
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Balla24
2322 Posts
We just really need to hear from the quiet ones at this point though, they are really stalling the game and it's been a whole 24 hours. Some people have 1/2 posts only and have been quite weird. If we're not going to hear from them though, i'd like to hear a bit more from Heavenz now that some time has passed, maybe there are more insights about how people are acting first day compared to that last game they played together. Blurry specifically, as his opening post -> sudden quietness is worrying from what I hear so far about his play. | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
I think he is scum because:
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heavenz
Austria301 Posts
Now after 24h you should write more than 1 liners. Zaragon: has my strongest town read so far. Blurry is really falling behind expectation, that's weird. You really should post more. lurkers:Jayte, xIvanJ You both have to participate way more. Stormtemplar is to me the most suspicious. He has 3 posts, 2 of which are about the lurker topic, and then the only relevant post @Zaragon: I agree on bereft, he's been active, contributing and putting out strategy ideas and generally behaving as one would expect a townie to behave. I also feel the same as you about heavenz: we just don't have enough to get a solid read one way or the other. Playerboy though, I'd like to hear more about this. What makes him seem town to you? I'm not really getting much one way or the other. Also, with you all on Jaytee. Where'd he go? He was clearly here, so why the disappearance? Simply going inactive is a classic inexperienced mafia behavior, and at best he's an inactive townie, which is not good for us. Obviously he's done nothing scummy, but doing nothing is itself kinda scummy. He needs to show up and post so we can get some reads. While this isn't a scummy post in itself, but it's not useful either. He just joins in on Zaragon's reads, and calls out a lurker. Asks Playerboy on his ideas (probably so he can just join them in again, if they find appeal, and again gives zero reads from himself). Imho scummy. | ||
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heavenz
Austria301 Posts
On September 26 2013 16:26 MLuneth wrote: Time for my first scum read: heavenz I think he is scum because:
I appreciate your efford, but I disagree. I am sharing my advantage of knowing how Blurry and Bereft play with you. Even if they are mafia, they now have to fake participation, because otherwise it would be obvious to me that they are playing completly different than in their game where they were town. I wanted you to know this too. I know in the guids it's written that 1 liners clog up the thread are a mafia tell, however I straight out think that wrongs, and at least do newby games it doesn't apply at all. We have not even 8 full pages... that's nothing. Even 1 liners have an opinion and thus are better than nothing, also 1 liners can create discussion. You are implying that the lurker has to be town, when that isn't necessarly the case either. It's a scum tell if someone doesn't participates at all. And we don't necessarly have to lynch a lurker. Anyway brining the lurker discussion still up is distracting and thus scummy. | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
On September 25 2013 23:14 heavenz wrote: Nothing is easier for scum then just to drop a few summaries and make a post about who they suspect and then stay out of everything for the most part.  | ||
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heavenz
Austria301 Posts
On September 26 2013 17:25 MLuneth wrote: It's true that we could get lucky, but I feel that it's rather unlikely as Ask yourself, how is that helping town what you're doing. | ||
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Jayte
5 Posts
On September 26 2013 16:26 MLuneth wrote: Time for my first scum read: heavenz I think he is scum because:
The last point you made would only be true if all the scums are active and are not lurkers. | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
If we policy lynch maf will be able to infulence the vote to a townie relatively easily. At the end of the ly | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
At the end of the lynch,we have gained nothing and a townie is dead. However, if we lynch first on reads and use how much people lurk as a part of these reads we will always gain information as we have people that will oppose the lynch, latch on a little too easily and of course the person who first proposes the lynch | ||
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playerboy345
Netherlands194 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [onlywonderboy] + He has added nothing to the game by far, his posts are just one-liners which are basically useless posts. Hopefully we'll hear some more of him soon + Show Spoiler [Zaragon] + The one thing I found a bit odd was that he clothed his opinions on MLuneth and heavenz/Bereft with arguments but the only thing he said about me was that I feel towny. I'm wondering why he didn't back this up with arguments like he did with the other cases. Overall I think he is town, but not using arguments and just saying "he feels town" is a bit weird in my opinion. (It feels so wrong to be suspicious of someone who called you town T_T) + Show Spoiler [stormtemplar] + I think he is town, he made himself very clear on the lurker subject and asked me to elaborate when I wasn't clear enough. He also questioned the same thing I did - Zaragon not using arguments on his opinion of me. I haven't read anything of him yet that I could even consider a scumread, he just tries to force information out of others, like: Also, with you all on Jaytee. Where'd he go? He was clearly here, so why the disappearance? Simply going inactive is a classic inexperienced mafia behavior, and at best he's an inactive townie, which is not good for us. Obviously he's done nothing scummy, but doing nothing is itself kinda scummy. He needs to show up and post so we can get some reads. + Show Spoiler [Jayte] + Only an one-liner so far, and a highly suspicious (imo) one at that + Show Spoiler [JonnyLaw] + I got nothing on him so far. + Show Spoiler [heavenz] + On September 26 2013 16:58 heavenz wrote: onlywounderboy: only oneliners, while I am not against one liners at all, just writing 1 liners lacks much content. He tries to show activness even though he has no content, perhaps he didn't know what to write in the beginning. Now after 24h you should write more than 1 liners. Zaragon: has my strongest town read so far. Blurry is really falling behind expectation, that's weird. You really should post more. lurkers:Jayte, xIvanJ You both have to participate way more. I agree with you on onlywonderboy. BUT the bolded part makes me a bit suspicious, you say Zaragon has your strongest town tell but you say nothing to back it up, same goes for Blurry. Please elaborate on this when you can. + Show Spoiler [MLuneth] + On September 26 2013 14:57 MLuneth wrote: On my question, I'm a curious guy! I got lynched d3 and it's been several months since I last played, so I might be a little sketchy on some rules. What made you think it was a good idea to ask it in this thread? Wouldn't it make you an easy target for mafia or am I missing something here? And why are you going balls deep on heavenz? That's a pretty gutsy move. Your last posts basically says "I want to lynch heavenz!" without having a shitton of evidence to back it up with. + Show Spoiler [Bereft] + I got nothing on him so far. + Show Spoiler [Blurry] + His only post so far is on the lurker subject, it's not quite enough for me to have a tell on him. + Show Spoiler [BajaBlood] + On September 26 2013 02:48 BajaBlood wrote: Yeah, it's the shortest post so far, but I don't think he's alone in not having contributed any substance yet (myself included). Hopefully we'll start to see more contributions as our discussions turn more in this direction. Moving into discussions like this is probably more productive than the policy lynch, though - at least the guides say so  On September 26 2013 09:51 BajaBlood wrote: Not terribly impressed that this is the only post so far from this player... Asking for mercy on lurkers then proceeding to post nothing else. First he defends Jayte for having only one/a short post with no content and then he proceeds to attack xIvanJ for having only one post with no content. Am I the only one who thinks that's SUPER suspicious? I'll keep an eye on BajaBlood and Jayte for now. + Show Spoiler [Balla24] + Don't got much on him so far, but nothing scummy. Like this post: On September 26 2013 11:37 Balla24 wrote: I'm not really getting any bad vibes from anybody at this point. Really need to hear from the less talkative people at this point to get a read off of them. As far as town reads I'm liking Zaragon for sure, and maybee Bereft. Both of them have been quite active in trying to move the discussion forward and providing their reads. They have also been looking into other's past games which i think is quite helpful for us. We just really need to hear from the quiet ones at this point though, they are really stalling the game and it's been a whole 24 hours. Some people have 1/2 posts only and have been quite weird. If we're not going to hear from them though, i'd like to hear a bit more from Heavenz now that some time has passed, maybe there are more insights about how people are acting first day compared to that last game they played together. Blurry specifically, as his opening post -> sudden quietness is worrying from what I hear so far about his play. Looks town to me. + Show Spoiler [xIvanJ] + Only a one-liner so far, he has to post more. | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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playerboy345
Netherlands194 Posts
4 posts since I started writing, anyways can you provide some thoughts on my analysis though? | ||
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MLuneth
Australia557 Posts
I would like to hear JonnyLaw's and onlywonderboy's scum reads as neither are looking particularly clean atm. Same goes for Jayte and xIvanJ, but really I would like them to post anything at all | ||
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BajaBlood
United States205 Posts
(1) When I wrote to defend Jayte, it was well under 24 hours since the game started. Since at that point I didn't know people's typical active times, I figured there was a chance he would become active in the next short period. It'd been a full 24 hours since the game opened when I brought up xIvanJ's inactivity - whatever his schedule is he should have had a chance to contribute by then. (2) Not only has xIvanJ only written one post, I don't like it's content either. Whether or not we actually execute a policy lynch, I dislike stating that we should tolerate lurking; there has to be pressure on lurkers. This isn't set in stone, but for now I'm gonna ##Vote: xIvanJ. Jayte didn't really take advantage of the window of time I offered him in (1), and the second post he made wasn't particularly helpful. As it stands, I don't really care for Jayte either, but I'm not going to go back on my gut just because I've been accused of unreasonably defending him. For now, I will sincerely hope for some good analysis from xIvanJ so that I can remove this vote. | ||
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BajaBlood
United States205 Posts
The only other thing I disagree with is on the heavenz part - you yourself (and I did this too) said you had a greenish read to Zaragon but didn't have much to support it, why is it odd that heavenz does too? | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
Jayte: Joke post to start off the game, hasn't contributed anything of value. Isn't trying to cause chaos in the town, but his absence is questionable. Mentions being busy with work, could just be throwing that out so we don't seem suspicious MLuneth: Had that odd question to start, could have easily asked a coach instead of putting it in the thread. playerboy: Great analysis of all the players. But, imo, it seemed like a post that was trying too hard to put the spotlight on "Hey, look, I'm helping the town!" I'm definitely not saying he should be a candidate for the first lynch, but just something to keep in mind in the future. | ||
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heavenz
Austria301 Posts
On September 26 2013 21:34 BajaBlood wrote: Both Jayte and xIvanJ are lurking, but there's two reasons for my apparent favoritism: (1) When I wrote to defend Jayte, it was well under 24 hours since the game started. Since at that point I didn't know people's typical active times, I figured there was a chance he would become active in the next short period. It'd been a full 24 hours since the game opened when I brought up xIvanJ's inactivity - whatever his schedule is he should have had a chance to contribute by then. (2) Not only has xIvanJ only written one post, I don't like it's content either. Whether or not we actually execute a policy lynch, I dislike stating that we should tolerate lurking; there has to be pressure on lurkers. This isn't set in stone, but for now I'm gonna ##Vote: xIvanJ. Jayte didn't really take advantage of the window of time I offered him in (1), and the second post he made wasn't particularly helpful. As it stands, I don't really care for Jayte either, but I'm not going to go back on my gut just because I've been accused of unreasonably defending him. For now, I will sincerely hope for some good analysis from xIvanJ so that I can remove this vote. I would advice to vote for Jayte assuming that xIvanJ get's modkilled or replaced. | ||
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heavenz
Austria301 Posts
On September 26 2013 20:57 stormtemplar wrote: Darn it playerboy, why did you have to go and post all that good analysis and make me look like an idiot for saying you don't post much useful information. what are the parts you think are good of playerboys list? | ||
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