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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 06 2013 17:33 GMT
#4621
If Oats thinks that Koshi is scum then why post this?

On August 05 2013 20:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
why dont you make a case on stutters?
me/ft/you are willing to vote for him.

Probably Rayn and CJS too. if they are both town.

So thats 5 people
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 06 2013 17:35 GMT
#4622
Oats' vote was on Koshi D2 until 4 other guys voted Koshi, then he unvoted.

Oats' attacked Exar early D3, but then moved his vote to Koshi once it became apparent that Exar was going to be lynched anyway.

Then on on D4, does Oats vote Koshi? Nope, he votes Stutters.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43237 Posts
August 06 2013 17:35 GMT
#4623
So it is impossible for town!Oatsmaster to vote for mafia!Stutters over mafia/town!Koshi?
I dont follow you? If Stutters is mafia, why does Oats have to be mafia? There was a fucking day left. You don´t need to consolidate at the start of the day.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43237 Posts
August 06 2013 17:37 GMT
#4624
On August 07 2013 02:35 hzflank wrote:
Oats' vote was on Koshi D2 until 4 other guys voted Koshi, then he unvoted.

Oats' attacked Exar early D3, but then moved his vote to Koshi once it became apparent that Exar was going to be lynched anyway.

Then on on D4, does Oats vote Koshi? Nope, he votes Stutters.

Yeah this soundds much better and that´s what is bothering me about Oats. He does not care about who do we lynch. Too bad the only townie this game who does not vote with the rest of the town is gonna lose the game probably.

No fuck. Not really. It´s not LYLO. This is gonna be exiting.
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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 06 2013 17:47 GMT
#4625
If you have time re-read on case on Oats if you did not read it thoroughly. There were some strong points and some weaker points in there. But in the discussion I had with Oats after I posted the case he tried to defend one of the strong points and just ended up looking like scum.

Look at this at noticed the timestamps (I put them in chronological order order):

On August 04 2013 22:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
thanks CJS.
2/2 so far


On August 05 2013 17:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 16:55 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 05 2013 14:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
pretty ok shot Hzflank.

##vote stutters

Oats, you should probably work on reading the thread. Why do you think this is an OK shot when you have had me as a town read for the majority of the game? Also, why are you voting stutters without waiting for my flip?

??
Its a good shot because then we dont waste today lynching you

stutters is scum in every variation of the scumteam I can think of.


On August 05 2013 19:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
CJS might be scum actually.

Hmm.


On August 06 2013 11:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Variations meaning
stutters/koshi/JAT
stutters/koshi/CJS
stutters/JAT/CJS

so I shouldnt have variations?


Notice how he thinks CJS is town. Then he has scum team variations. Then he thinks CJS might be scum. Then he has CJS in his variations.

That's in the wrong order. He should of thought CJS was scum before he had scum team variations.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43237 Posts
August 06 2013 17:51 GMT
#4626
lol, that´s a good catch. You are right, it makes no sense. Oats, explain.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43237 Posts
August 06 2013 17:52 GMT
#4627
But Oats is voting for Stutters every time it his vote doesn´t mean shit. Don´t think Stutters is town for that, because i just caught him of lying.

Gush.. Why can´t anyone else seem town than you/Cora. :E
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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 06 2013 17:58 GMT
#4628
On August 07 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But Oats is voting for Stutters every time it his vote doesn´t mean shit. Don´t think Stutters is town for that, because i just caught him of lying.

Gush.. Why can´t anyone else seem town than you/Cora. :E


I agree that Oats vote does not make Stutters town. It just makes Oats scum.

I am at the same place I have been for 24 hours. I know 2 scum, but I do not know whether Stutters or FT is the third.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 06 2013 17:58 GMT
#4629
Depending on how FT will flip I played a good enough town. You guys lynched all the towns.
gg to whoever is scum.

Don't be all outraged in 6 hours, I will be asleep.
I had a good night of sleep.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 06 2013 17:59 GMT
#4630
FT's case against JAT was bad. FT took a point that I previously looked at (JAT's D2 scumslip) and reached the opposite conclusion to what I did. Since we now know that Malongo flipped red, I thought that JAT's supposed scumslip made JAT look more town. FT thought it made JAT look more scum.

Either FT is scum or his analysis is bad. I thought he was trying to force a case that he should not believe in.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43237 Posts
August 06 2013 18:05 GMT
#4631
Look, there is a small possibility that Koshi is in fact town. FT looks much worse than him, and JAT went mia, again..

At least Oats is justifying his "i refuse to talk anything about FT because townslip", and that is retarded.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43237 Posts
August 06 2013 18:05 GMT
#4632
And for me Stutters is confirmed scum.
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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 06 2013 18:11 GMT
#4633
On August 07 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least Oats is justifying his "i refuse to talk anything about FT because townslip", and that is retarded.


I don't know what you mean by this part.

Also, if Koshi is town then he is completely attacking the wrong people. I do not see why a town-Koshi would still be attacking me at this point.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 06 2013 18:14 GMT
#4634
On August 07 2013 03:11 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least Oats is justifying his "i refuse to talk anything about FT because townslip", and that is retarded.


I don't know what you mean by this part.

Also, if Koshi is town then he is completely attacking the wrong people. I do not see why a town-Koshi would still be attacking me at this point.

Ok hz, can we have a talk?
I had a good night of sleep.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 06 2013 18:17 GMT
#4635
On August 07 2013 03:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 03:11 hzflank wrote:
On August 07 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least Oats is justifying his "i refuse to talk anything about FT because townslip", and that is retarded.


I don't know what you mean by this part.

Also, if Koshi is town then he is completely attacking the wrong people. I do not see why a town-Koshi would still be attacking me at this point.

Ok hz, can we have a talk?


As long as it is productive. I dont want 3 pages of spam that gets in the way of people looking at productive scumhunting, which from my position is what it seems you have been doing.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43237 Posts
August 06 2013 18:20 GMT
#4636
On August 07 2013 03:11 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least Oats is justifying his "i refuse to talk anything about FT because townslip", and that is retarded.


I don't know what you mean by this part.

Also, if Koshi is town then he is completely attacking the wrong people. I do not see why a town-Koshi would still be attacking me at this point.

Because he thinks you are mafia. It´s not uncommon for townies to tunnel some dude they think is mafia for bad reasons or not looking at the big picture. Everyone does that some time. Koshi has at least given reasons why he thinks you are mafia. Those reasons actually make sense. Although i think the reasons why you are town outweight the reasons why you are mafia i can see Koshi´s point, at least i understand what he is trying to say and how that is possible from a townie.

Remove the "at least" from Oats comment and it makes much more sense. All game Oats has refused to comment on FT because of townslip. It makes no sense, he is just saying "because of this one town tell i refuse to talk anything about FT, whatever he says".
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
August 06 2013 18:20 GMT
#4637
On August 07 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look, there is a small possibility that Koshi is in fact town. FT looks much worse than him, and JAT went mia, again..

At least Oats is justifying his "i refuse to talk anything about FT because townslip", and that is retarded.

I'm here. If you have a question - ask. Otherwise I will continue reading filters.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 06 2013 18:25 GMT
#4638
On August 07 2013 03:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Look, there is a small possibility that Koshi is in fact town. FT looks much worse than him, and JAT went mia, again..

At least Oats is justifying his "i refuse to talk anything about FT because townslip", and that is retarded.

I'm here. If you have a question - ask. Otherwise I will continue reading filters.


Well there have been a lot of developments recently so you must have something to say. What do you think of Oats?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 06 2013 18:26 GMT
#4639
On August 07 2013 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 03:11 hzflank wrote:
On August 07 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At least Oats is justifying his "i refuse to talk anything about FT because townslip", and that is retarded.


I don't know what you mean by this part.

Also, if Koshi is town then he is completely attacking the wrong people. I do not see why a town-Koshi would still be attacking me at this point.

Because he thinks you are mafia. It´s not uncommon for townies to tunnel some dude they think is mafia for bad reasons or not looking at the big picture. Everyone does that some time. Koshi has at least given reasons why he thinks you are mafia. Those reasons actually make sense. Although i think the reasons why you are town outweight the reasons why you are mafia i can see Koshi´s point, at least i understand what he is trying to say and how that is possible from a townie.

Remove the "at least" from Oats comment and it makes much more sense. All game Oats has refused to comment on FT because of townslip. It makes no sense, he is just saying "because of this one town tell i refuse to talk anything about FT, whatever he says".


Why did FT allow Oats to do that?

When Vivax and Rayn said I was town based on a single paragraph I flipped out about it.

Can we get any idea of FT's alignment based on that?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 06 2013 18:29 GMT
#4640
It's going to be very hard for me to look at Koshi from an objective position. He has made it more difficult for me to play this game and I think he is scum. If you (Rayn) do not want to lynch Koshi then you should work on convincing Cora rather than me.

As for Stutters, he has done a few things that make him look like scum. He has only done a few things that make him look town. He has not been very active and he has rarely played proactivly.

However, I do not want to lynch Stutters today. I do not believe that Rayn's point makes him 100% scum. I will look at voting for him on D5, though.

Realistically, the only person I might be willing to switch my vote to is Oats. But I am happy lynching Koshi today and then pusing Oats on D5.
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