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On July 27 2013 09:54 FirmTofu wrote: Yeah, I dunno what you guys are doing fluffing up the thread with fluff and general bullshit but It's be great if we could discuss the game now.
Ok, this post is really bothering me now. Wants to get down to business...but also is bogging the game down with the lurker discussion. Like really pushing the discussion from the get-go.
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I dunno about FT, that 'mistake' above seems really newbie scum mistake to make. Clarity, what do you propose I talk about?
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On July 27 2013 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote: I dunno about FT, that 'mistake' above seems really newbie scum mistake to make. Clarity, what do you propose I talk about?
i would like to know your scum and town reads as you have talked to several people directly so far.
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On July 27 2013 21:29 hzflank wrote:
One post doth not maketh a townie.
What do you think of Clarity's case on Tofu? Or the exchange between Clarity and myself? I don't like the case on Tofu. That doesn't mean he can't be scum but his Filter looks more like town to me. His vote on exarezee doesn't make that much sense to me but I don't think it is scum motivated. I guess he just tried to get exarezee to explain himself.
But as you already pointed out: he should defend himself!
Your argument with clarity is actually pretty stupid... I see a lot of nitpicking in it. For example I think the discussion whether 7 minutes are enough to read a page of filter ist pointless as it surely depends on the player. I also don't understand why you are so focused on clarity answering you and presenting his case in the same post. Arguments like this won't help town in any way.
I am not entirely sure why clarity started this case on Tofu because I can't imagine he really thinks this guy is scum at the moment.
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I think paperscraps and firmtofu are a good 1,2 wagon combo for day 1.
I don't think both are scum, but I think its a high chance one of the two are. Really strange initial votes on me by both of them. I don't understand why I had to be voted because I didn't provide a reason for a tone read I made. Paperscrap's vote is even more bewildering because he states he was "joking in all his posts." So, if they were townies making these votes I would have to assume they are trying to see if anybody jumps on my bandwagon and gain some information from it....but then they really quickly unvote. Just really strange town play IMO. Really can't see this being done as a scum/scum combo. It draws a little too much attention. Again, could be town/town, but I think its really likely a scum/town combo here.
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On July 27 2013 21:28 Clarity_nl wrote: Give our exchange a good long read, think it through, and tell me if you think I'm scum or town, because you've implied both.
I'll be honest with you, during our exchange I never meant to imply that you were town.
Having read over it a few times I am not as confident in your alignment as I would like to be after such an exchange. However, a lot of the reasoning I might have for you being scum is based on far too many assumptions. Also, I think we got off on the wrong foot when I said that your vote was a joke and you said that 7 minutes was not long enough for me to reply.
The best place I can get to is that I do not want to lynch you right now. I think that there is more chance of you flipping town than scum. Additionally, if you did flip town at this point I do not think it would provide any useful associations.
After rereading your case on Tofu I did not like the top half but the bottom half contained some good points. I still do not think that Tofu is scum, though. His filter looks town to me and having played with Tofu before he is posting in a way that I would expect from him.
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On July 27 2013 22:16 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote: I dunno about FT, that 'mistake' above seems really newbie scum mistake to make. Clarity, what do you propose I talk about? i would like to know your scum and town reads as you have talked to several people directly so far. everyone is nullish to slightly town. I dunno man
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Oats why you being so trolly, can you go scumhunt or something?
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On July 27 2013 22:25 exarezee wrote: I think paperscraps and firmtofu are a good 1,2 wagon combo for day 1.
I don't think both are scum, but I think its a high chance one of the two are. Really strange initial votes on me by both of them. I don't understand why I had to be voted because I didn't provide a reason for a tone read I made. Paperscrap's vote is even more bewildering because he states he was "joking in all his posts." So, if they were townies making these votes I would have to assume they are trying to see if anybody jumps on my bandwagon and gain some information from it....but then they really quickly unvote. Just really strange town play IMO. Really can't see this being done as a scum/scum combo. It draws a little too much attention. Again, could be town/town, but I think its really likely a scum/town combo here. FT's vote was probably a ploy to see what you would do, apparently it didnt work to well huh.
If you push paperscrap, you are scum man.
Why cant he joke around? Why does every post have to be useful?
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On July 27 2013 22:25 exarezee wrote: I think paperscraps and firmtofu are a good 1,2 wagon combo for day 1.
I don't think both are scum, but I think its a high chance one of the two are. Really strange initial votes on me by both of them. I don't understand why I had to be voted because I didn't provide a reason for a tone read I made. Paperscrap's vote is even more bewildering because he states he was "joking in all his posts." So, if they were townies making these votes I would have to assume they are trying to see if anybody jumps on my bandwagon and gain some information from it....but then they really quickly unvote. Just really strange town play IMO. Really can't see this being done as a scum/scum combo. It draws a little too much attention. Again, could be town/town, but I think its really likely a scum/town combo here.
How is that post in any way more useful to town than to scum?
You think that Paper and Tofu should be the two lynch candidates but do not state which of them is most likely to be scum. If they are both town then having them be the primary lynch candidates would be great for scum. If one of them is actually scum then you posting that without saying which one you think is scum is really not useful, as if one of them flips town you are in a position where you should assume that the other is scum, which give you a really easy excuse to vote for them if you are in fact scum.
Basically, telling us which single person you want to lynch is good. Telling us that you want the votes to be between two specific people is really bad.
Which of them is most likely to be scum?
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On July 27 2013 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 22:25 exarezee wrote: I think paperscraps and firmtofu are a good 1,2 wagon combo for day 1.
I don't think both are scum, but I think its a high chance one of the two are. Really strange initial votes on me by both of them. I don't understand why I had to be voted because I didn't provide a reason for a tone read I made. Paperscrap's vote is even more bewildering because he states he was "joking in all his posts." So, if they were townies making these votes I would have to assume they are trying to see if anybody jumps on my bandwagon and gain some information from it....but then they really quickly unvote. Just really strange town play IMO. Really can't see this being done as a scum/scum combo. It draws a little too much attention. Again, could be town/town, but I think its really likely a scum/town combo here. FT's vote was probably a ploy to see what you would do, apparently it didnt work to well huh. If you push paperscrap, you are scum man. Why cant he joke around? Why does every post have to be useful?
Not every post has to be useful. Some posts have to be useful. If every post in a filter is useless then that person is scum.
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Votecount so far:
Paperscraps (2) hzflank exarezee
Clarity_nl (1) VayneAuthority
FirmTofu (1) Clarity_nl
Stutters695 (1) Vivax
Oatsmaster (1) Captain Jack
Tell me if I missed anyone. Deadline is in !
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On July 27 2013 12:00 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: Scum! I see one!
##Vote: Oatsmaster
My vote still stands, and I believe that it is the correct one for this situation.
Oatsmaster is acting like scum. He is refusing to give us any decent information whatsoever, just mucking up the thread with sarcastic one-liners and not giving us any insight on his opinions or anything.
He is the perfect example of scum trying to blend in and be in the conversation, yet his words hold no meaning and are merely just filler. If you take them out, his filter is left with:
On July 25 2013 21:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Normal or not man /in
And that, my friends, is not someone I want to give rum to.
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Oats isn't blending in, he's sticking out like a sore thumb. Whether that makes it more or less likely that he's scum I'm not sure yet.
But leave your vote where it is, all good, but please give us some opinions other than those on oats.
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When Jack Sparrow votes it is so democratic that the mods fail to take notice of it.
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On July 27 2013 23:11 Clarity_nl wrote: Oats isn't blending in, he's sticking out like a sore thumb. Whether that makes it more or less likely that he's scum I'm not sure yet.
But leave your vote where it is, all good, but please give us some opinions other than those on oats. Let me put it this way:
If I had a gun with one bullet, I would shoot Oatsmaster. For reasons already given. If I had a gun with two bullets, I would shoot Oatsmaster and VayneAuthority.
"Why VayneAuthority?" you ask? Well, I will tell you. His first few posts were, in other words, utterly useless shit. He then goes to make a vote post on you, Clarity_nl, which is, in other words, utterly useless shit. The rest of his filter is one liners and, in other words, utterly useless shit.
So VayneAuthority has been playing, in other words, like utterly useless shit.
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And also, gentlemen,
##Captain: Captain Jack Sparrow Do it, you know you want to.
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##Captain: Captain Jack Sparrow You earned it with your last post. I have to agree with you - Oats and Vayne both did not post useful things as of now.
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On July 27 2013 23:19 justanothertownie wrote: ##Captain: Captain Jack Sparrow You earned it with your last post. I have to agree with you - Oats and Vayne both did not post useful things as of now. Good man! Take some rum.
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On July 27 2013 22:47 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 22:25 exarezee wrote: I think paperscraps and firmtofu are a good 1,2 wagon combo for day 1.
I don't think both are scum, but I think its a high chance one of the two are. Really strange initial votes on me by both of them. I don't understand why I had to be voted because I didn't provide a reason for a tone read I made. Paperscrap's vote is even more bewildering because he states he was "joking in all his posts." So, if they were townies making these votes I would have to assume they are trying to see if anybody jumps on my bandwagon and gain some information from it....but then they really quickly unvote. Just really strange town play IMO. Really can't see this being done as a scum/scum combo. It draws a little too much attention. Again, could be town/town, but I think its really likely a scum/town combo here. How is that post in any way more useful to town than to scum? You think that Paper and Tofu should be the two lynch candidates but do not state which of them is most likely to be scum. If they are both town then having them be the primary lynch candidates would be great for scum. If one of them is actually scum then you posting that without saying which one you think is scum is really not useful, as if one of them flips town you are in a position where you should assume that the other is scum, which give you a really easy excuse to vote for them if you are in fact scum. Basically, telling us which single person you want to lynch is good. Telling us that you want the votes to be between two specific people is really bad. Which of them is most likely to be scum?
It's a useful post for those who think I'm town and several people do. it's also useful to have a nice concise argument that one of those two is scum for if/when i die and turn up town.
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