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exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 15:00 GMT
#261
I understand it's probably going to look pretty bad for me and potentially cost the town the game if both paper and tofu turn up town...but it's just crying that one of those two attempted a really poor attack at me in the hopes of garnering a following.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 27 2013 15:02 GMT
#262
On July 27 2013 23:53 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 23:48 hzflank wrote:
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.


Because scum want two town wagons on day 1. Town only wants to find one scum as the chance of actually finding multiple scum on day 1 is very slim. If a scum member is under pressure and cannot deal with it alone then the simplest and easiest thing for the scum team to do is to ignore that person and secure two other lynch candidates. If town start saying that we want to lynch two specific people then it makes it too easy for scum to steer us into a mislynch without being noticed.

If you think that they are both scum that is fine, but don't do anything resembling pushing for lynches on them both at the same time.


You're exactly right. Scum would ideally want two town wagons Day 1. That's why we wagon paper and tofu......you really think they are town/town with their interactions with me day 1?


I think that Paper is scum. However, that read may possibly change (If I am given reason to change it), and if it does change then there is every possibility that they are both town.

Their interactions with you in no way preclude them from both being town.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 27 2013 15:09 GMT
#263
yup justanothertownie dude is scum.

Look at his first post.

On July 27 2013 20:13 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't like Paperscraps. First he joins the lurker discussion without adding any content, then he starts to jump on exarezee without any good reason (I'm not really convinced that it was just a joke) and when he gets a little heat for it he totally backs off. I really hate this:

justanothertownie thinks its not a joke. But he doesnt explain why scum would do it, summerizes Paperscraps actions and just says its scummy. Scum take jokes seriously cause they play the game seriously.

Show nested quote +
TLDR; Besides the first question on my first post, I haven't been serious at all.

So this is not serious at all?
Show nested quote +

Lurkers are liabilities later in the game. I don't have a problem with taking them out sooner, rather than later. If you are stuck in a potential mylo/lylo situation with a lurker, it is no fun. Of course, if some one is overly scummy we should lynch them first.


extreme nitpicking here, clearly paperscraps was using generalization and notice that justanothertownie just throws shit on him without explain how or why its scummy. Like pointing out supposed bad posts without explain why. scumtell.


Also I'm annoyed by CJS. Going through his filter I can't find anything valuable - he just didn't say anything until this point (apart from fluff).

Ok look at his thoughts on CJS, I assume he is leaning null scummy. In his very next post commenting on CJS post, his view drastically changes.
On July 27 2013 23:19 justanothertownie wrote:
##Captain: Captain Jack Sparrow
You earned it with your last post. I have to agree with you - Oats and Vayne both did not post useful things as of now.

looks like he wants to sheep CJS, off this horrific
On July 27 2013 23:08 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 12:00 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Scum! I see one!

##Vote: Oatsmaster


My vote still stands, and I believe that it is the correct one for this situation.

Oatsmaster is acting like scum. He is refusing to give us any decent information whatsoever, just mucking up the thread with sarcastic one-liners and not giving us any insight on his opinions or anything.

He is the perfect example of scum trying to blend in and be in the conversation, yet his words hold no meaning and are merely just filler. If you take them out, his filter is left with:

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 21:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Normal or not man
/in


And that, my friends, is not someone I want to give rum to.

accusations without anything to back them up with. contradictions and shit, way over generalization. And it makes justanormaltownie want to sheep him? I dont buy it, justanormaltownie wants to support this set of lynches/lynch and see if I could possibly be mislynched.

##vote: justanormaltownie
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 27 2013 15:10 GMT
#264
On July 28 2013 00:00 exarezee wrote:
I understand it's probably going to look pretty bad for me and potentially cost the town the game if both paper and tofu turn up town...but it's just crying that one of those two attempted a really poor attack at me in the hopes of garnering a following.

What the the reasons for FT and paper being scum outside the votes which I dont think are alignment indicative?
No gg, No skill.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 15:12 GMT
#265
Let's look at their summarized sequence of interactions with me and assume they are both town. If you can explain to me their logic in this bizarre sequence, i will acquiesce.

Tofu attacks me about the lurker talk.
I give a scum lean on papers.
Tofu votes me because I did not provide a reason for my scum lean on papers.
Papers comes back to thread and drops a vote on me. No reason is given.
I provide my reason on papers.
Tofu unvotes me and casts suspicion on papers now.
Papers unvotes me.
Papers plays off his posts as jokes.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 27 2013 15:14 GMT
#266
no way paper is mafia with how many people suspect him. Tofu is possible given his play in this game so far but gots to see more. Don't give a shit about day 1 usually anyway lalala
I come in for the scraps
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 27 2013 15:14 GMT
#267
Tofu's vote isnt serious.
Papersvote isnt serious.
By serious vote, I mean intent to lynch.
Other than that exarzee?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 27 2013 15:15 GMT
#268
Vayne, try a bit please.

what do you think of justanothertownie?
No gg, No skill.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 15:16 GMT
#269
On July 28 2013 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Tofu's vote isnt serious.
Papersvote isnt serious.
By serious vote, I mean intent to lynch.
Other than that exarzee?


What's the intent then?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 27 2013 15:17 GMT
#270
On July 28 2013 00:12 exarezee wrote:
Let's look at their summarized sequence of interactions with me and assume they are both town. If you can explain to me their logic in this bizarre sequence, i will acquiesce.

Tofu attacks me about the lurker talk.
I give a scum lean on papers.
Tofu votes me because I did not provide a reason for my scum lean on papers.
Papers comes back to thread and drops a vote on me. No reason is given.
I provide my reason on papers.
Tofu unvotes me and casts suspicion on papers now.
Papers unvotes me.
Papers plays off his posts as jokes.


They wanted to apply some pressure in an attempt to get a read?
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 15:17 GMT
#271
On July 28 2013 00:17 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 00:12 exarezee wrote:
Let's look at their summarized sequence of interactions with me and assume they are both town. If you can explain to me their logic in this bizarre sequence, i will acquiesce.

Tofu attacks me about the lurker talk.
I give a scum lean on papers.
Tofu votes me because I did not provide a reason for my scum lean on papers.
Papers comes back to thread and drops a vote on me. No reason is given.
I provide my reason on papers.
Tofu unvotes me and casts suspicion on papers now.
Papers unvotes me.
Papers plays off his posts as jokes.


They wanted to apply some pressure in an attempt to get a read?


so why'd they unvote so quickly?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 27 2013 15:18 GMT
#272
On July 28 2013 00:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
no way paper is mafia with how many people suspect him. Tofu is possible given his play in this game so far but gots to see more. Don't give a shit about day 1 usually anyway lalala


How does multiple people suspecting someone make that person town?
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 15:18 GMT
#273
as a matter of fact, paper's response was that his posts were a joke. so we can't attribute his strange play to an attempt to get a read.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 27 2013 15:19 GMT
#274
Actually exarezee, I read the exchange again,
Ok

FT's vote was meant to push you into explaining your scumread on papers.
His unvote is acknowledging that you did something, even if it wasnt very good.
In no way does he say that Papers is scummy.

FT isnt scum.

So papers side. The vote seems consistent with the attitude shown in this post.

On July 27 2013 09:32 Paperscraps wrote:
...LYNCH ALL LURKERS, MUAHAHAHAH.

And it was possibly just a ploy to see what would happen. I dont see an intent to lynch you in his vote or surrounding actions.

So therefore, neither of them are scummy for the votes on you exarzee
No gg, No skill.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 27 2013 15:22 GMT
#275
On July 28 2013 00:18 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 00:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
no way paper is mafia with how many people suspect him. Tofu is possible given his play in this game so far but gots to see more. Don't give a shit about day 1 usually anyway lalala


How does multiple people suspecting someone make that person town?


Townie: Yo lets lynch this guy he's scum
Scumbuddy - yea totally scum fuck him
other scumbuddy - scummiest dude I've ever seen. lynch asap.
THE ENTIRE FUCKING TEAM - GET HIM HURRY

yea, no I don't see that happening this early. The only time town ever lynches scum day 1 is when a scum truly, truly fucks up.

This doesn't seem like one of those times, it's too early in the cycle to be frank. Just seems like a convenient mislynch at at the moment for absolutely appalling reasons.

But as I said, carry on my play usually starts later anyway. Not much of a morning person hahaha how do they say in french??
I come in for the scraps
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
July 27 2013 15:22 GMT
#276
I'posting on tablet so i'll keep it short, will be back at computer tomorrow evening to post more properly and regularly.

I Actually also want to lynch vayne for all the bollocks he has been posting early game.i'M not used to him posting bollocks in his town games.
I already hate this ggame for all its small posts, and its joke posts. Jack sparrow is annoying and i would like him to get a more serious tone soon. All this bullshitting only helps scum.it was fine at the start but stop now please.

That said, let's work towards a better atmosphere please. Also consider lookinespeciallyg at people who post only few.n
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 15:23 GMT
#277
@Oatsmaster

I don't believe one of the two to be scum because they voted for me. I'm looking at it through town eyes and their Complete Sequence of events doesn't make sense to me if BOTH are town...which leads to the next conclusion that one of them is scum. And I don't think they are both scum, because frankly it's too hard to pull this off.

If I look at the sequence of events with one of them being town and one being scum, it makes more sense to me.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 27 2013 15:24 GMT
#278
On July 28 2013 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vayne, try a bit please.

what do you think of justanothertownie?


pretty useless I guess? Vig him if we have one. Don't waste a lynch on him.
I come in for the scraps
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 27 2013 15:25 GMT
#279
On July 28 2013 00:23 exarezee wrote:
@Oatsmaster

I don't believe one of the two to be scum because they voted for me. I'm looking at it through town eyes and their Complete Sequence of events doesn't make sense to me if BOTH are town...which leads to the next conclusion that one of them is scum. And I don't think they are both scum, because frankly it's too hard to pull this off.

If I look at the sequence of events with one of them being town and one being scum, it makes more sense to me.

What?
So 1 town 1 scum means no communication right?
so why cant it be 2 town??????????
I dont understand how you can say its 1 town and 1 scum without strongly leaning to one side.
No gg, No skill.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 15:26 GMT
#280
So the next question to me is: Well exarezee: What did they do that don't make sense to you?

I don't understand why tofu was debating lurkers with me.
I don't understand why tofu put a placeholder vote on me.
I don't understand why papers dropped in and put a vote on me.
I don't understand why tofu unvoted me and soft accused papers when i soft accused papers earlier.
I don't understand why papers unvoted me.
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