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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 27 2013 14:24 GMT
#241
On July 27 2013 23:21 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 22:47 hzflank wrote:
On July 27 2013 22:25 exarezee wrote:
I think paperscraps and firmtofu are a good 1,2 wagon combo for day 1.

I don't think both are scum, but I think its a high chance one of the two are. Really strange initial votes on me by both of them. I don't understand why I had to be voted because I didn't provide a reason for a tone read I made. Paperscrap's vote is even more bewildering because he states he was "joking in all his posts." So, if they were townies making these votes I would have to assume they are trying to see if anybody jumps on my bandwagon and gain some information from it....but then they really quickly unvote. Just really strange town play IMO. Really can't see this being done as a scum/scum combo. It draws a little too much attention. Again, could be town/town, but I think its really likely a scum/town combo here.


How is that post in any way more useful to town than to scum?

You think that Paper and Tofu should be the two lynch candidates but do not state which of them is most likely to be scum. If they are both town then having them be the primary lynch candidates would be great for scum. If one of them is actually scum then you posting that without saying which one you think is scum is really not useful, as if one of them flips town you are in a position where you should assume that the other is scum, which give you a really easy excuse to vote for them if you are in fact scum.

Basically, telling us which single person you want to lynch is good. Telling us that you want the votes to be between two specific people is really bad.

Which of them is most likely to be scum?


It's a useful post for those who think I'm town and several people do. it's also useful to have a nice concise argument that one of those two is scum for if/when i die and turn up town.


But which of them do you think is most likely scum?

If I were scum I would love to see a town post that he would like the vote to be between a specific two people. So to me either your post was more useful to scum than to town, or you are scum. I am leaning towards the former, so please answer the question.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
July 27 2013 14:27 GMT
#242
On July 27 2013 23:21 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 22:47 hzflank wrote:
On July 27 2013 22:25 exarezee wrote:
I think paperscraps and firmtofu are a good 1,2 wagon combo for day 1.

I don't think both are scum, but I think its a high chance one of the two are. Really strange initial votes on me by both of them. I don't understand why I had to be voted because I didn't provide a reason for a tone read I made. Paperscrap's vote is even more bewildering because he states he was "joking in all his posts." So, if they were townies making these votes I would have to assume they are trying to see if anybody jumps on my bandwagon and gain some information from it....but then they really quickly unvote. Just really strange town play IMO. Really can't see this being done as a scum/scum combo. It draws a little too much attention. Again, could be town/town, but I think its really likely a scum/town combo here.


How is that post in any way more useful to town than to scum?

You think that Paper and Tofu should be the two lynch candidates but do not state which of them is most likely to be scum. If they are both town then having them be the primary lynch candidates would be great for scum. If one of them is actually scum then you posting that without saying which one you think is scum is really not useful, as if one of them flips town you are in a position where you should assume that the other is scum, which give you a really easy excuse to vote for them if you are in fact scum.

Basically, telling us which single person you want to lynch is good. Telling us that you want the votes to be between two specific people is really bad.

Which of them is most likely to be scum?


It's a useful post for those who think I'm town and several people do. it's also useful to have a nice concise argument that one of those two is scum for if/when i die and turn up town.

My question to you is, why are you trying to highlight posts that make you look town! It doesn't help us find scum if you take a post and run around screaming "Guys! I'm town! This is why!".

No. That will earn you a one way ticket into the ocean. Go find us scum, not sit around and proclaim your innocence. It helps no one.

The Kraken is hungry, and I don't think it wants to eat me again. But perhaps it would find you tasty...
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 14:33 GMT
#243
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 14:34 GMT
#244
@Captain Jack

Are you drunk?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 27 2013 14:35 GMT
#245
CJS so bad.
I dont think hes scum though.

The Justanothertownie dude is scum though. Reasons upcoming.
No gg, No skill.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
July 27 2013 14:35 GMT
#246
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.

Then why do you not vote for FirmTofu?

You just said that you think they are both scum and that you want to vote for them, but you don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu. So your vote should be clear. Why is it not clear to you then?
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 27 2013 14:36 GMT
#247
CJS, try harder to give reasoning for your vote other than "ALL YOUR POSTS ARE USELESS"

Yeah, tell me how that makes me scum and which posts in particular that made you think that way.
No gg, No skill.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 14:37 GMT
#248
On July 27 2013 23:27 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 23:21 exarezee wrote:
On July 27 2013 22:47 hzflank wrote:
On July 27 2013 22:25 exarezee wrote:
I think paperscraps and firmtofu are a good 1,2 wagon combo for day 1.

I don't think both are scum, but I think its a high chance one of the two are. Really strange initial votes on me by both of them. I don't understand why I had to be voted because I didn't provide a reason for a tone read I made. Paperscrap's vote is even more bewildering because he states he was "joking in all his posts." So, if they were townies making these votes I would have to assume they are trying to see if anybody jumps on my bandwagon and gain some information from it....but then they really quickly unvote. Just really strange town play IMO. Really can't see this being done as a scum/scum combo. It draws a little too much attention. Again, could be town/town, but I think its really likely a scum/town combo here.


How is that post in any way more useful to town than to scum?

You think that Paper and Tofu should be the two lynch candidates but do not state which of them is most likely to be scum. If they are both town then having them be the primary lynch candidates would be great for scum. If one of them is actually scum then you posting that without saying which one you think is scum is really not useful, as if one of them flips town you are in a position where you should assume that the other is scum, which give you a really easy excuse to vote for them if you are in fact scum.

Basically, telling us which single person you want to lynch is good. Telling us that you want the votes to be between two specific people is really bad.

Which of them is most likely to be scum?


It's a useful post for those who think I'm town and several people do. it's also useful to have a nice concise argument that one of those two is scum for if/when i die and turn up town.

My question to you is, why are you trying to highlight posts that make you look town! It doesn't help us find scum if you take a post and run around screaming "Guys! I'm town! This is why!".

No. That will earn you a one way ticket into the ocean. Go find us scum, not sit around and proclaim your innocence. It helps no one.

The Kraken is hungry, and I don't think it wants to eat me again. But perhaps it would find you tasty...


I'm not trying to highlight posts that me look town. What are you talking about? Pretty sure I haven't sat around and proclaimed my innocence either. Please show me what you are talking about.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 14:39 GMT
#249
On July 27 2013 23:35 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.

Then why do you not vote for FirmTofu?

You just said that you think they are both scum and that you want to vote for them, but you don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu. So your vote should be clear. Why is it not clear to you then?


Are you trolling me? I never said that I think they are both scum. If it was voting deadline right now, I'd vote paper first, and tofu 2nd. I don't think paperscraps is as scumy as FirmTofu. WTF? have you been reading my posts or just making things up in your head.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
July 27 2013 14:40 GMT
#250
On July 27 2013 23:21 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 22:47 hzflank wrote:
On July 27 2013 22:25 exarezee wrote:
I think paperscraps and firmtofu are a good 1,2 wagon combo for day 1.

I don't think both are scum, but I think its a high chance one of the two are. Really strange initial votes on me by both of them. I don't understand why I had to be voted because I didn't provide a reason for a tone read I made. Paperscrap's vote is even more bewildering because he states he was "joking in all his posts." So, if they were townies making these votes I would have to assume they are trying to see if anybody jumps on my bandwagon and gain some information from it....but then they really quickly unvote. Just really strange town play IMO. Really can't see this being done as a scum/scum combo. It draws a little too much attention. Again, could be town/town, but I think its really likely a scum/town combo here.


How is that post in any way more useful to town than to scum?

You think that Paper and Tofu should be the two lynch candidates but do not state which of them is most likely to be scum. If they are both town then having them be the primary lynch candidates would be great for scum. If one of them is actually scum then you posting that without saying which one you think is scum is really not useful, as if one of them flips town you are in a position where you should assume that the other is scum, which give you a really easy excuse to vote for them if you are in fact scum.

Basically, telling us which single person you want to lynch is good. Telling us that you want the votes to be between two specific people is really bad.

Which of them is most likely to be scum?


It's a useful post for those who think I'm town and several people do. it's also useful to have a nice concise argument that one of those two is scum for if/when i die and turn up town.

"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 14:42 GMT
#251
Yeah, and it clearly says for if i turn up town. Obviously you can disregard what I say if i turn up scum. Where am I trying to proclaim innocence.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
July 27 2013 14:42 GMT
#252
On July 27 2013 23:39 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 23:35 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.

Then why do you not vote for FirmTofu?

You just said that you think they are both scum and that you want to vote for them, but you don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu. So your vote should be clear. Why is it not clear to you then?


Are you trolling me? I never said that I think they are both scum. If it was voting deadline right now, I'd vote paper first, and tofu 2nd. I don't think paperscraps is as scumy as FirmTofu. WTF? have you been reading my posts or just making things up in your head.

You said that you think at least one of them as scum. So that would mean that you are trying to figure out who is scummier?

I bolded two sentences in your post which contradict each other. You would rather vote paperscraps first, but you think FirmTofu is scummier. Am I missing something?
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
July 27 2013 14:43 GMT
#253
On July 27 2013 23:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
CJS, try harder to give reasoning for your vote other than "ALL YOUR POSTS ARE USELESS"

Yeah, tell me how that makes me scum and which posts in particular that made you think that way.


I will answer your question with a question: If you had to lynch someone right now, who would it be and why?
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 14:43 GMT
#254
On July 27 2013 23:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 23:39 exarezee wrote:
On July 27 2013 23:35 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.

Then why do you not vote for FirmTofu?

You just said that you think they are both scum and that you want to vote for them, but you don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu. So your vote should be clear. Why is it not clear to you then?


Are you trolling me? I never said that I think they are both scum. If it was voting deadline right now, I'd vote paper first, and tofu 2nd. I don't think paperscraps is as scumy as FirmTofu. WTF? have you been reading my posts or just making things up in your head.

You said that you think at least one of them as scum. So that would mean that you are trying to figure out who is scummier?

I bolded two sentences in your post which contradict each other. You would rather vote paperscraps first, but you think FirmTofu is scummier. Am I missing something?


That statement that you bolded is WHAT YOU WROTE. It's what I'm giving a WTF to.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
July 27 2013 14:46 GMT
#255
On July 27 2013 23:43 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 23:42 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On July 27 2013 23:39 exarezee wrote:
On July 27 2013 23:35 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.

Then why do you not vote for FirmTofu?

You just said that you think they are both scum and that you want to vote for them, but you don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu. So your vote should be clear. Why is it not clear to you then?


Are you trolling me? I never said that I think they are both scum. If it was voting deadline right now, I'd vote paper first, and tofu 2nd. I don't think paperscraps is as scumy as FirmTofu. WTF? have you been reading my posts or just making things up in your head.

You said that you think at least one of them as scum. So that would mean that you are trying to figure out who is scummier?

I bolded two sentences in your post which contradict each other. You would rather vote paperscraps first, but you think FirmTofu is scummier. Am I missing something?


That statement that you bolded is WHAT YOU WROTE. It's what I'm giving a WTF to.

I did not write that. What are you talking about? You, sir, have not had enough rum.

TL is not letting me post so quickly because this account is new, so I will take a 15 minute break. =(
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 27 2013 14:48 GMT
#256
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.


Because scum want two town wagons on day 1. Town only wants to find one scum as the chance of actually finding multiple scum on day 1 is very slim. If a scum member is under pressure and cannot deal with it alone then the simplest and easiest thing for the scum team to do is to ignore that person and secure two other lynch candidates. If town start saying that we want to lynch two specific people then it makes it too easy for scum to steer us into a mislynch without being noticed.

If you think that they are both scum that is fine, but don't do anything resembling pushing for lynches on them both at the same time.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 14:50 GMT
#257
On July 27 2013 23:35 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.

Then why do you not vote for FirmTofu?

You just said that you think they are both scum and that you want to vote for them, but you don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu. So your vote should be clear. Why is it not clear to you then?


"But you don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu."

Captain Jack. YOU said this! I don't know where you came up with this idea. I never once stated that I don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu.

On July 27 2013 23:39 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 23:35 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.

Then why do you not vote for FirmTofu?

You just said that you think they are both scum and that you want to vote for them, but you don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu. So your vote should be clear. Why is it not clear to you then?


Are you trolling me? I never said that I think they are both scum. If it was voting deadline right now, I'd vote paper first, and tofu 2nd. I don't think paperscraps is as scumy as FirmTofu. WTF? have you been reading my posts or just making things up in your head.


"I don't think paperscraps is as scumy as FirmTofu. WTF?" This is addressing what YOU said. All I did was change the pronoun from when you were addressing me to me referring to myself.

I can't even believe I'm having to post this. This is like arguing 1+1=2.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
July 27 2013 14:50 GMT
#258
On July 27 2013 23:35 Oatsmaster wrote:


The Justanothertownie dude is scum though. Reasons upcoming.

Ah, so you are actually calling someone scum. That's a good start. Why me?
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
July 27 2013 14:52 GMT
#259
On July 27 2013 23:50 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 23:35 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.

Then why do you not vote for FirmTofu?

You just said that you think they are both scum and that you want to vote for them, but you don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu. So your vote should be clear. Why is it not clear to you then?


"But you don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu."

Captain Jack. YOU said this! I don't know where you came up with this idea. I never once stated that I don't think paperscraps is as scummy as FirmTofu.

Oh. Looks like I haven't had enough rum.
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 27 2013 14:53 GMT
#260
On July 27 2013 23:48 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 23:33 exarezee wrote:
I forgot to address your other point hzflank.

I think I've stated who is more likely to be scum by the small case I put on paperscraps and the fact that I voted for him.

Why is me advocating the 2 wagons bad? I feel like I will get a lot of useful information regardless of how they turn. My scum lean on paperscraps isn't even that strong...and if he actually was joking then it's a very slight lean. Still, based on their interactions with me and their voting history on Day 1, I firmly believe that one of those two is scum.


Because scum want two town wagons on day 1. Town only wants to find one scum as the chance of actually finding multiple scum on day 1 is very slim. If a scum member is under pressure and cannot deal with it alone then the simplest and easiest thing for the scum team to do is to ignore that person and secure two other lynch candidates. If town start saying that we want to lynch two specific people then it makes it too easy for scum to steer us into a mislynch without being noticed.

If you think that they are both scum that is fine, but don't do anything resembling pushing for lynches on them both at the same time.


You're exactly right. Scum would ideally want two town wagons Day 1. That's why we wagon paper and tofu......you really think they are town/town with their interactions with me day 1?
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