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On July 25 2013 23:38 FiveTouch wrote: You're missing the alternative explanation, austin - kirby is scum and knows TG is town, and is bullshitting a read because he knows his alignment. Scum do that you know. Nah, I'm not missing it. But I think TG is mafia. I know that's an option, but it doesn't fit into my worldview right now.
It's one reason I'd prefer a shot on TG to kirby though. If TG DOES flip town, kirby looks scummy for his posts. However, if TG flips mafia, kirby unlikely to be mafia IMO.
Gets us a flip on a dude who I think is scummy AND informs us about another dude who is scummy.
Maybe I just want to be right too
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On July 25 2013 23:41 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 23:38 FiveTouch wrote:On July 25 2013 23:37 cDgCorazon wrote:On July 25 2013 23:33 FiveTouch wrote:On July 25 2013 23:32 cDgCorazon wrote:On July 25 2013 23:28 FiveTouch wrote: The problem is, Cora, that for me to read you town I have to read you as exceptionally weird and slightly brainless for this game. Something I prefer not to do if I can help it. Aww that's so sweet of you Marv <3 But really, look deep down inside you and you will realize that I can be town and use my brain at the same time. No no, that's the thing. I know you can be town and use your brain, which is why this game is puzzling. That hurts me, deep down inside </3 Why does it hurt? Do you want me to pull up your own posts where you admit to being silly this game? Well the problem is that you think I'm being brainless (which I cannot deny) and yet you think I am scum. That contradicts your first post.
I think you're more likely to make mistakes as mafia, and you've made mistakes this game. It's whether the mistakes are because you're having an off-game, or because you're mafia.
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But austin, you're never right when we have these battles
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On July 25 2013 23:42 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 23:41 cDgCorazon wrote:On July 25 2013 23:38 FiveTouch wrote:On July 25 2013 23:37 cDgCorazon wrote:On July 25 2013 23:33 FiveTouch wrote:On July 25 2013 23:32 cDgCorazon wrote:On July 25 2013 23:28 FiveTouch wrote: The problem is, Cora, that for me to read you town I have to read you as exceptionally weird and slightly brainless for this game. Something I prefer not to do if I can help it. Aww that's so sweet of you Marv <3 But really, look deep down inside you and you will realize that I can be town and use my brain at the same time. No no, that's the thing. I know you can be town and use your brain, which is why this game is puzzling. That hurts me, deep down inside </3 Why does it hurt? Do you want me to pull up your own posts where you admit to being silly this game? Well the problem is that you think I'm being brainless (which I cannot deny) and yet you think I am scum. That contradicts your first post. I think you're more likely to make mistakes as mafia, and you've made mistakes this game. It's whether the mistakes are because you're having an off-game, or because you're mafia. Have you read NMM 33? I played soooooooooo differently in that game from every other game.
You should also realize that this is the first time I replaced into a game, and you should know that I have problems reading every single post as town.
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On July 25 2013 22:59 FiveTouch wrote: There's no evidence that Firm freaked out about anything. Freak out might not be the best term. But I think he totally went into "gotta save my scumbuddy" mode.
Here's FirmTofus first post acknowledging the redclaim
On July 24 2013 07:16 FirmTofu wrote: Wait, so let me get this straight. getmoript and Corazon are both claiming cop?
Are people told whether they are naive/paranoid/sane/insane when they receive their roles? How useful is a cop's accusation when we cannot trust their sanity?
I don't think lynching TAA based solely on getmoript's claim is the best course of action. If we think TAA is scummy AND we have getmoript's claim to back it up, I don't mind lynching him.
Back to scumhunting. I'm going to ignore the cop claims for now because in NW, I tried to setup speculate and that fucked me over. I don't want to simply assume that two cops can't exist.
My scumreads are TG, jrkirby, and TAA.
TG claimed he was roleblocked. This is not alignment indicative. He was scummy yesterday and nothing has changed to sway my opinion in the other direction.
I will talk more about jrkirby and TAA in a few additional posts.
- He makes sure to make the point about not being able to trust a cop claim because of sanity. - He then says we shouldn't lynch based only on the claim, we should only lynch if we think TAA is scummy also. - He then lists his scumreads and TAA is one of them So doesn't that mean we should lynch TAA? He's obviously scummy since he's one of his scumreads and we have getmoript's claim to back it up.
On July 25 2013 23:07 TanGeng wrote: I'm still convinced that Tofu was talking about Corazon when mentioning blues. Notice who he said his scumreads were in the post above. You really think he was talking about someone else when he wrote this?On July 24 2013 07:52 FirmTofu wrote: That being said, I would much prefer to lynch jrkirby or TG today. I think we should hold of on lynching potential blues unless we are certain that one of them is scum.
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On July 25 2013 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote: jrkirby could be bad scum austin
Sorry oats, but marv has gotten enough douchey sarcasm from me this game, and I feel a bit frisky this morning.
WELL SLAP MY ASS AND CALL ME CHARLIE. I forgot that he could also be bad scum. Heck, he could be third, fourth, fifth party. He might be a co-host. I might live in Antartica. There's a whole lot of things that could be, and I'm ever so thankful that you pointed them out. (Sorry, this is typed with giggles and not angry eyebrows)
But, all in all, I just find it far more likely that TG is scum, which makes jrkirby slightly townier in my eyes, not bad scummier.
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Come on JarJar.
On July 24 2013 07:52 FirmTofu wrote: I'm not going to make a quoted point-by-point post about cDg because my scumread is not as strong as the other two.
His conversation with Oats made me think he was scummy because of how irrational his approach was. I still don't understand why you would check yourself for sanity when it barely tells you anything. You should be checking others, not yourself. You can figure out whether you're sane based on their flips and you get a plethora of useful information.
While I think getmoript may be lying about his claim, I think he is more likely to be a VT pushing a strong scum read in TAA.
I cannot think of a single good reason why cDg would claim as town given a getmoript claim unless he started to speculate upon roles.
That being said, I would much prefer to lynch jrkirby or TG today. I think we should hold of on lynching potential blues unless we are certain that one of them is scum.
He's evidently talking about Corazon.
I have no idea how you could misconstrue this.
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On July 25 2013 23:42 FiveTouch wrote:But austin, you're never right when we have these battles Hmmmm. I feel like sometimes we've BOTH been right. I might or might not be imagining those?
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@JJD
I think TAA was supposed to be Corazon... Tofu corrects it later. Because Getmoript jumped on Tofu immediately for that. See if you can follow the thread and find it.
I'm not sure what to make of the typo/mistake though.
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Jarjar, that's really fucking shady actually.
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Seriously, how do you read that post and think he's not talking about Corazon?
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On July 25 2013 23:48 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 23:42 FiveTouch wrote:But austin, you're never right when we have these battles Hmmmm. I feel like sometimes we've BOTH been right. I might or might not be imagining those?
I can't remember an instance. But I'm sure it must have happened. Probably. I wouldn't begrudge you being right in this instance, I just think you're wrong. I think TG's posts are townier than jrkirby's. We'll see.
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On July 25 2013 23:48 TanGeng wrote: I think TAA was supposed to be Corazon... Tofu corrects it later. Because Getmoript jumped on Tofu immediately for that. See if you can follow the thread and find it. Oh I missed this.
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I want to know, Jarjar, how you read that post where he's talking about Corazon for the entire post and talking about Corazon being blue, and coming to the conclusion that he's talking about someone else.
How did that happen?
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On July 25 2013 23:51 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 23:48 austinmcc wrote:On July 25 2013 23:42 FiveTouch wrote:But austin, you're never right when we have these battles Hmmmm. I feel like sometimes we've BOTH been right. I might or might not be imagining those? I can't remember an instance. But I'm sure it must have happened. Probably. I wouldn't begrudge you being right in this instance, I just think you're wrong. I think TG's posts are townier than jrkirby's. We'll see. Cough. Cough cough. You cool with the vote post and the reads/scumhunting on D1?
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Point taken. But like, the town sentiment @ the time was that TAA was getting lynched so it just felt like he was saying that we should lynch elsewhere. But yeah, it does make sense that he was just explaining why he didn't want to vote Corazon. That part of my case doesn't look so good now I admit.
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On July 25 2013 23:56 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 23:51 FiveTouch wrote:On July 25 2013 23:48 austinmcc wrote:On July 25 2013 23:42 FiveTouch wrote:But austin, you're never right when we have these battles Hmmmm. I feel like sometimes we've BOTH been right. I might or might not be imagining those? I can't remember an instance. But I'm sure it must have happened. Probably. I wouldn't begrudge you being right in this instance, I just think you're wrong. I think TG's posts are townier than jrkirby's. We'll see. Cough. Cough cough. You cool with the vote post and the reads/scumhunting on D1?
I'm talking about since.
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On July 25 2013 23:58 JarJarDrinks wrote: Point taken. But like, the town sentiment @ the time was that TAA was getting lynched so it just felt like he was saying that we should lynch elsewhere. But yeah, it does make sense that he was just explaining why he didn't want to vote Corazon. That part of my case doesn't look so good now I admit.
I wasn't making a point, I was asking you a question I'd like answered
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On July 25 2013 23:59 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 23:58 JarJarDrinks wrote: Point taken. But like, the town sentiment @ the time was that TAA was getting lynched so it just felt like he was saying that we should lynch elsewhere. But yeah, it does make sense that he was just explaining why he didn't want to vote Corazon. That part of my case doesn't look so good now I admit. I wasn't making a point, I was asking you a question I'd like answered I thought I answered. Because TAA was the person that was surely gonna get lynched so I jumed to that conclusion. He bolded that part so I kinda felt that it was supposed to be a point that stands on his own. Look @ how he words it. He says "We" should hold of on lynching potential blues. It's just the way I read it.
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Ok. Apologies if I came off over-aggressive about it, just seemed so weird to me.
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