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On July 22 2013 12:01 TanGeng wrote: Argh, sometimes sharing these details is just a bad idea because then scum can meta the though process.
Coming into the post, JarJar jumped on Tofu who was the most obvious target and then leaves. This is most likely not indicative of scum as townies seem more likely to do it. But it does provide a quick way to try to pick up on some scum tells. This is an awful post. Town wants nothing more than to be active and completely transparent with their reads at all time. Why are you trying to get us to think about what scum want to do with your post before you even post it?
-Wave
I'm in the middle of doing a read into a couple people as Geript and I have been talking in the QT.
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Just running through a timeline of TanG's recent posts to get a better feel for where he's coming from and to gather my thoughts about him. + Show Spoiler [TanG's Timeline] +On July 22 2013 09:08 TanGeng wrote: Hey all, got back and looking through the thread as the deadline starts to get closer.
Let's go look over the who might look like a surer lynch among the actives. If no clear candidate, let's go with an inactive. TanGeng is stating how he prioritizes his actions. Actives first, inactives second. We need to remember this. On July 22 2013 09:27 TanGeng wrote:I'm not even the most inactive in this game Fuck! This is going to be bad for town. At this point I'm looking at the most active filter: getmoript. All this stuff looks townie for me right now. He's established a town read on getmoript. I would assume he would move on to the next active person to look at based on his previous post explaining that he wants to look at actives before inactives. On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote: I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.
Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."
Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless. What? This is so off. Why is he suddenly on JJD? I thought he was filter diving active players? Why does he want to pressure someone when there are so few hours left in the day? We need to be voting our scummiest reads at this point, not pressure voting people. On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote: Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it?
From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it. Why is it stupid to YOU if we leave out you on our list of lurkers? If you know you are town, then you should know that we are leaving out a townie. Why would should that arouse suspicion to you specifically? It should only be suspicious to a third party because they don't know our alignments and could suspect that 5T and I are leaving you out because we are your scumbuddies. Also, why are you claiming? Sounds like a cheap trick to get people off your ass. VT's shouldn't be claiming Vt right now. They need to be looking as pro-town as possible to try and take a hit from the mafia. Blues shouldn't be claiming VT either because that would just confuse town more than it would help. So basically, claiming VT as town is a bad decision no matter what your role actually is.
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EBWOP: Sorry about my switch from 3rd person to 2nd person midway though that post.
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Do you have an ETA on the reads? I'm super interested in sleep, but would really like to see your thoughts here and then I will give some minor thoughts and then maybe we can lynch scum and i can go to sleep.
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On July 22 2013 12:17 FirmTofu wrote: EBWOP: Sorry about my switch from 3rd person to 2nd person midway though that post. austinmcc says that I think it's okay; you're forgiven
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On July 22 2013 12:18 austinmcc wrote: Do you have an ETA on the reads? I'm super interested in sleep, but would really like to see your thoughts here and then I will give some minor thoughts and then maybe we can lynch scum and i can go to sleep. I'm not sure if you're talking to me here, but TanGeng is definitely my top scum read now. There's plenty of people I don't like for lurking, but if I had to pick someone to be mafia, TG would be my guy.
This is evidenced by my recent vote on him.
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Was talking to getmoript there. Apparently there's a post a-brewin'.
But since you responded, I feel bad. I will give you my fourth child.
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On July 22 2013 12:26 austinmcc wrote: Was talking to getmoript there. Apparently there's a post a-brewin'.
But since you responded, I feel bad. I will give you my fourth child. *hands over a box of condoms*
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On July 22 2013 12:15 getmoript wrote: This is an awful post. Town wants nothing more than to be active and completely transparent with their reads at all time. Why are you trying to get us to think about what scum want to do with your post before you even post it?
-Wave
I'm in the middle of doing a read into a couple people as Geript and I have been talking in the QT.
I post it because it's not going to be used anymore. It's only applicable to meta in the future. The other hydra head already has said that JJD is town by meta.
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I would like to remind everyone that this game relies on majority voting. If we actually want a lynch today, we are going to have to consolidate on a single target. Start voting, people.
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On July 22 2013 12:39 FirmTofu wrote: I would like to remind everyone that this game relies on majority voting. If we actually want a lynch today, we are going to have to consolidate on a single target. Start voting, people. Where does it say this?
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Tofu,
I'm multitasking. Doing two things at the same time. When votes are counted, lynching an active based on evidence is preferable to lynching an inactive. I'm poking the inactives while I still have time.
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On July 22 2013 12:39 FirmTofu wrote: I would like to remind everyone that this game relies on majority voting. If we actually want a lynch today, we are going to have to consolidate on a single target. Start voting, people. Waiting on friggin' getmoript to post. Actually interested in their thoughts on TanGeng.
I found that first post of his scummy, where he voted JJD. I found his absolutely refusal to give reason for it, while commenting on a couple of other things and just repeatedly ducking something like giving reasons for his vote or explaining a comment he made to be mind-boggling. I don't understand it as EITHER faction. He didn't say no, he just consciously avoided specific things and yet answered other questions and poked at me once or twice.
I can't understand townies not giving reasoning for their votes/reads, especially when I've seen him do it. I can't understand mafia just straight up going "Nope nope nope, better not acknowledge that someone wants my read here, better just drop my head in the sand."
On average, I think it comes out scummy for me, as like a deer in the headlights reaction? Has TanGeng been mafia before?
I really want getmoript's take on that and TanGeng overall, because despite spending this last bit removing the police uniforms and playing paddycake in their chat (or, you know, working), I'm interested in their thoughts. Having "misread" TanGeng before, or whatever that comment was, I'd like to know what was misread.
Oats is still oats, and still looks like a perfectly fine lynch. But TanGeng also looks like a fine lynch to me atm, if this game actually has a lynch and doesn't just get shut down because nobody votes.
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See voting thread:
On July 20 2013 14:23 Bluelightz wrote: This is where you vote.
This game uses Majority Voting, please use the format outlined in the main thread.
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On July 22 2013 12:45 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 12:39 FirmTofu wrote: I would like to remind everyone that this game relies on majority voting. If we actually want a lynch today, we are going to have to consolidate on a single target. Start voting, people. Waiting on friggin' getmoript to post. Actually interested in their thoughts on TanGeng. I found that first post of his scummy, where he voted JJD. I found his absolutely refusal to give reason for it, while commenting on a couple of other things and just repeatedly ducking something like giving reasons for his vote or explaining a comment he made to be mind-boggling. I don't understand it as EITHER faction. He didn't say no, he just consciously avoided specific things and yet answered other questions and poked at me once or twice. I can't understand townies not giving reasoning for their votes/reads, especially when I've seen him do it. I can't understand mafia just straight up going "Nope nope nope, better not acknowledge that someone wants my read here, better just drop my head in the sand." On average, I think it comes out scummy for me, as like a deer in the headlights reaction? Has TanGeng been mafia before? I really want getmoript's take on that and TanGeng overall, because despite spending this last bit removing the police uniforms and playing paddycake in their chat (or, you know, working), I'm interested in their thoughts. Having "misread" TanGeng before, or whatever that comment was, I'd like to know what was misread. Oats is still oats, and still looks like a perfectly fine lynch. But TanGeng also looks like a fine lynch to me atm, if this game actually has a lynch and doesn't just get shut down because nobody votes. I don't like TanGeng either, but given the fact that it's majority I'd rather eliminate some shit from the game early and if TanGeng is around he can help us with that. ##Unvote ##Vote: OatsMaster
We need what, 7 people to all vote him in 2 hours to secure a lynch? I don't see that happening if we're still trying to lynch a player who's active and in thread right now.
-Wave
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WoS and I are ok with consolidating on Tang or Oats. Not sure either is possible.
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Actually wait a minute. If it's Majority voting then why does the votecount from earlier say we were set to be lynched if we only had 2 votes? Clarification please. Do we need Majority (ie 7 votes) or plurality?
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What do you guys make of just the absolute refusal to talk about the JJD vote/read/"discussion" comment?
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On July 22 2013 12:45 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2013 12:39 FirmTofu wrote: I would like to remind everyone that this game relies on majority voting. If we actually want a lynch today, we are going to have to consolidate on a single target. Start voting, people. Waiting on friggin' getmoript to post. Actually interested in their thoughts on TanGeng. I found that first post of his scummy, where he voted JJD. I found his absolutely refusal to give reason for it, while commenting on a couple of other things and just repeatedly ducking something like giving reasons for his vote or explaining a comment he made to be mind-boggling. I don't understand it as EITHER faction. He didn't say no, he just consciously avoided specific things and yet answered other questions and poked at me once or twice. I can't understand townies not giving reasoning for their votes/reads, especially when I've seen him do it. I can't understand mafia just straight up going "Nope nope nope, better not acknowledge that someone wants my read here, better just drop my head in the sand."
Because it's not a read, yet, and if I'm probing, I am not going to telegraph how I will be probing. It isn't effective. I was clear that it was a pressure vote and I stand by that.
Still not seeing where I am dropping head in the sand.
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Also, I really really really want to sleep. You guys can post thoughts in here maybe? Takes a while to filter through your chat and into this thread.
(UNLESS YOU'RE MAFIA AND YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO AND THEN DON'T POST YOUR THOUGHTS ANYWHERE AND JUST CONCEDE)
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