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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 22 2013 03:59 GMT
#421
K, I'm here for just a bit. Basically enough time to read through stuff and vote. Sorry, dont want to make excuses but weekends are generally never good for me and this one was especially busy. I'll be normal tomorrow.

Anything/anyone specific people think I should really check out.
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 04:02 GMT
#422
On July 22 2013 12:54 austinmcc wrote:
What do you guys make of just the absolute refusal to talk about the JJD vote/read/"discussion" comment?

On phone so posting limited. Basically WoS had a weak early town read based on mindset. I disagreed. I'm way more with you on this whole refusal to make sense of the JJD post. Him being bullied off his thoughts is non-alignment indicative. He's (TG) is acting odd but no show oats is pretty odd too. I really think that half the players here are busy/preoccupied w/ Sicilian and this game is taking a backseat to it. But I can see oats rolling scum and being all "fuck that I'll just play Sicilian". I think oats gives us more info than Tang personally. And right now that's about the best we can hope for IMO.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 04:03 GMT
#423
On July 22 2013 12:59 JarJarDrinks wrote:
K, I'm here for just a bit. Basically enough time to read through stuff and vote. Sorry, dont want to make excuses but weekends are generally never good for me and this one was especially busy. I'll be normal tomorrow.

Anything/anyone specific people think I should really check out.

Just read the thread and post thoughts as you go. It's super short.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 04:05 GMT
#424
Also. Neither WoS or I know wtf to think of DrH.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 22 2013 04:05 GMT
#425
On July 22 2013 12:55 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 12:45 austinmcc wrote:
On July 22 2013 12:39 FirmTofu wrote:
I would like to remind everyone that this game relies on majority voting. If we actually want a lynch today, we are going to have to consolidate on a single target. Start voting, people.
Waiting on friggin' getmoript to post. Actually interested in their thoughts on TanGeng.

I found that first post of his scummy, where he voted JJD. I found his absolutely refusal to give reason for it, while commenting on a couple of other things and just repeatedly ducking something like giving reasons for his vote or explaining a comment he made to be mind-boggling. I don't understand it as EITHER faction. He didn't say no, he just consciously avoided specific things and yet answered other questions and poked at me once or twice.

I can't understand townies not giving reasoning for their votes/reads, especially when I've seen him do it. I can't understand mafia just straight up going "Nope nope nope, better not acknowledge that someone wants my read here, better just drop my head in the sand."


Because it's not a read, yet, and if I'm probing, I am not going to telegraph how I will be probing. It isn't effective. I was clear that it was a pressure vote and I stand by that.

Still not seeing where I am dropping head in the sand.
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.

Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."

Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless.
Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit.
On July 22 2013 10:00 austinmcc wrote:
My apologies.

Pretty please explain that sentence and your vote.
On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote:
Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it?

From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it.

On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:
On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.

Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."

Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless.
Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit.


HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping.

On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:
On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:
On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.

Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."

Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless.
Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit.


HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping.
What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure?
On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote:
Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it?

From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it.
On July 22 2013 10:50 austinmcc wrote:
Wut? It's interesting that he made a lurker list, and, assuming marv has been doing the posting, has basically ONLY made the lurker list and contributed little else, yet left you off of it. 48 hours to make a lurker list in a mini and he leaves a dude off. Just interesting for now.

You say it's stupid. Anything else? Do you think it's alignment-indicative at all?

But more importantly:
On July 22 2013 10:40 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 10:39 TanGeng wrote:
On July 22 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:
On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.

Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."

Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless.
Explain the first sentence please. The pressure/suspicion vote bit.


HOPEFULLY JJD shows up for discussion after sleeping.
What do you want him to discuss? Are you suspicious of his posts or just timing? How is your vote pressure?
On July 22 2013 11:03 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 10:50 austinmcc wrote:
On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote:
Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it?

From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it.
Wut? It's interesting that he made a lurker list, and, assuming marv has been doing the posting, has basically ONLY made the lurker list and contributed little else, yet left you off of it. 48 hours to make a lurker list in a mini and he leaves a dude off. Just interesting for now.

You say it's stupid. Anything else? Do you think it's alignment-indicative at all?


Looking at the post timing, it wasn't that bad of any omission at the time. I don't see it as alignment indicative.

On July 22 2013 11:06 austinmcc wrote:
Okay. So can we actually get to JJD now? You wanted to vote him so that he'd come in and discuss, because he's been pretty absent.

But you've been absent, and you've mentioned that, and then you're repeatedly not discussing the JJD read/vote.

Is there specific discussion you want from him? Is the convenient timing on the entrance and then leaving a scummy convenience (I think timing CAN be scummy, but it's not always. Feel free to disagree with that if you think all/no convenient timing is scummy)? If you were reading/sheeping geript, do you like JJD for scum more than TAA?

On July 22 2013 11:16 austinmcc wrote:
Seriously, i'm interested here. You made that post, you made that vote, I'm trying to figure out why.

On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote:
I like JJD more for scum than TAA. I feel that the worst post for TAA is this one here:

Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 07:48 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
On July 20 2013 15:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Vayne got banned insulting SNM, haha. That's unfortunate.

I'm hoping we can start Day 1 off constructively with lots of discussion and no fluff.
Anyone out there yet?

Hey guys look at my townie townieness im talking about being a good townie so i must be a good townie right?


It's a first post so it could be telling or it could just be fluff. The other posts do throw some shit around but bring me back to my sentiment about this game.

We're doomed with how many inactives there are currently. So as town, we do have to throw some shit around and watch for what the reactions are from the active players. Then we can come up with a plan or something like that and pose a challenge for scum.
On July 22 2013 11:35 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote:
I like JJD more for scum than TAA. I feel that the worst post for TAA is this one here:

On July 21 2013 07:48 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
On July 20 2013 15:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Vayne got banned insulting SNM, haha. That's unfortunate.

I'm hoping we can start Day 1 off constructively with lots of discussion and no fluff.
Anyone out there yet?

Hey guys look at my townie townieness im talking about being a good townie so i must be a good townie right?


It's a first post so it could be telling or it could just be fluff. The other posts do throw some shit around but bring me back to my sentiment about this game.

We're doomed with how many inactives there are currently. So as town, we do have to throw some shit around and watch for what the reactions are from the active players. Then we can come up with a plan or something like that and pose a challenge for scum.
As best as I can tell, TAA was calling FirmTofu kind of scummy or useless in that post. You disagree with the assessment and think TAA is just making a fluff post?

Also, you like JJD for scum. But you voted him in hopes he gets in here and discusses stuff. What do you want him to discuss? What in particular did JJD do that's scummy? The convenient entry/exit? Something more?

On July 22 2013 11:47 austinmcc wrote:
I don't even care anymore. I will give you my firstborn child if you will just answer questions about JJD.

You are here. You are answering all these other things. I will stop asking them. I will give you like...my first THREE kids. I will actually force someone to go through 27 months of labor and 3 deliveries just so that I can take the children and ship them to you if you will just talk about JJD and why he's scummy and what you want him to discuss.



There's what I'm talking about. Big bolded bits are me asking you what discussion you wanted, why you were voting, whether it bothered you that getmoript, the hydra you read and whose suspicions you were voting off of, had unvoted, etc. etc. etc.

You talked about TAA. You talked about why TAA was also somewhat scummy. You talked about being left off of lists. About inactives. But dear sweet jesus you REFUSED to discuss your actual vote, what you wanted JJD to discuss, etc. etc.


Fe fi fo fum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 22 2013 04:07 GMT
#426
Bah, humbug. Majority is no fun. I think I'll be here around the deadline. I'll switch my vote to Oats if he's the only possible lynch before I fall asleep. Otherwise, I'm still feeling TanG.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 22 2013 04:08 GMT
#427
Yeah, DrH really weird. As is Zephir, who I expect just slightly more activity from.

What info does lynching oats get us? I cannot really explain some of this TG stuff except trying to get instruction from scum QT or something, hoping people would tell him what to say, and so it would make me think we've got scum among our very inactive players/not in our players that are around recently.

That's stretching some stuff, and it leads to the conclusion that "some of our inactive players are scum" which, I know, is just downright SHOCKING and such a useful conclusion, but I don't get what info oats gets us really. Hard to analyze votes at all when there are 2.3 total votes.
Fe fi fo fum.
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 04:10 GMT
#428
Oats wouldn't go afk scum if he had good players on his side. Plus gives tertiary reads on a few other players based on pushes etc.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 22 2013 04:13 GMT
#429
On July 22 2013 13:05 austinmcc wrote:
There's what I'm talking about. Big bolded bits are me asking you what discussion you wanted, why you were voting, whether it bothered you that getmoript, the hydra you read and whose suspicions you were voting off of, had unvoted, etc. etc. etc.

You talked about TAA. You talked about why TAA was also somewhat scummy. You talked about being left off of lists. About inactives. But dear sweet jesus you REFUSED to discuss your actual vote, what you wanted JJD to discuss, etc. etc.

I see I ignored you for the longest time and that was because I was read the thread and giving thought on other things, rather than wanting to reveal what questions I wanted to spring on JJD when he is back that he would want to answer because I had my vote on him.

Also I don't think TAA is scum. What he did in his first series of posts can be considered scummy.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 22 2013 04:13 GMT
#430
The pushes yeah, but I just don't see too much info coming out of either lynch, tbh. Oats was halfway pushed when more people around, so I guess there's a little more there. I'm cool hanging with my vote on him then, and hoping some vigi is a bad enough dude to deal with other issues.

Cuz I totally support vigis shooting peeps.

I think I just really want to lynch TG because I don't understand this at all and think I've found scum and can make up for last game where I blew and found town. However, the lesson that game was to lynch oats/DI, and NOT go charging off after scummy people. Way more boring. Booooooooo.
Fe fi fo fum.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
July 22 2013 04:14 GMT
#431
So are people saying oats behavior is his standard behavior? Because I' also not loving TG, and if his filter checks scum to me, I might vote for him instead.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 22 2013 04:17 GMT
#432
On July 22 2013 13:13 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 13:05 austinmcc wrote:
There's what I'm talking about. Big bolded bits are me asking you what discussion you wanted, why you were voting, whether it bothered you that getmoript, the hydra you read and whose suspicions you were voting off of, had unvoted, etc. etc. etc.

You talked about TAA. You talked about why TAA was also somewhat scummy. You talked about being left off of lists. About inactives. But dear sweet jesus you REFUSED to discuss your actual vote, what you wanted JJD to discuss, etc. etc.

I see I ignored you for the longest time and that was because I was read the thread and giving thought on other things, rather than wanting to reveal what questions I wanted to spring on JJD when he is back that he would want to answer because I had my vote on him.

Also I don't think TAA is scum. What he did in his first series of posts can be considered scummy.
If you don't think TAA is scum and your vote on JJD was JUST pressure, despite also saying this
On July 22 2013 11:32 TanGeng wrote:
I like JJD more for scum than TAA.


Then....do you think ANYONE is scum?



GETMORIPT I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND.

TanGeng, you didn't ignore me for the longest time. You actively responded to these side-bits of my posts, you responded to some, we had dialogue, but NONE of it concerned what I was really looking for. You were keeping current with thread and responding to the very posts that had the questions about JJD and your vote/discussion, yet never ever ever ever mentioning that part of things.
Fe fi fo fum.
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 04:27 GMT
#433
Tangeng

Togo vote machine
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 22 2013 04:29 GMT
#434
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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 04:30 GMT
#435
To clarify, Austin I'm fine with going Tang over Oats. In retreading his filter he's felling very evasive.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 04:30 GMT
#436
Can we play good cop bad cop angry as all fuck cop again?
I'm really fucking pissed that this game is such low activity and we have like 4 people who could be modkilled D1.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 04:35 GMT
#437
Your turn to be fuck all angry cop :-P
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 22 2013 04:35 GMT
#438
Don't lynch me. It really was trying to stir up some activity. I'm trying to help out town and austin just jumped all over me.
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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 04:38 GMT
#439
Convince me you're town. Who do you think is scum and why?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 22 2013 04:39 GMT
#440
On July 22 2013 13:35 TanGeng wrote:
Don't lynch me. It really was trying to stir up some activity. I'm trying to help out town and austin just jumped all over me.
Which I'll actually feel bad about if you're town. I can be aggressive sometimes with reads, but I don't think I was at the start with you. I was scummy on that one post but figured you'd kind of explain it. But then the explanation or lack thereof just kept pinging my scumdar.

But I don't know how you were trying to stir up activity. You complained that you weren't on the useless lists because you were being useless. Then you pressure voted a guy with 5-6 hours left in the day when he had no other votes, after maybe not quite catching up to a very short game.

Like...none of it adds up.
Fe fi fo fum.
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