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On July 13 2013 16:42 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote:
@Hurricane Sponge
Koshi: I am still learning on how to play the game properly. I am extremely bad at scumhunting. I get very easily annoyed by people saying that I am scum (I am working on this). I love fluff posts. I hate illogical posts but it seems that illogical does not mean you are scum, however, I am not planning on ever making an illogical post and when I do please call me on it.
As you can see, I got a lot of bad qualities that make me look scum all the time. However, I always prove that I am town by trying and hopefully this game I can prove it by actually nailing some scumreads. @Koshi Prove you're town by trying. Trying = posting. What are your gut reactions to the thread so far? Give me your top 2 scum reads and top 2 town reads.
Apparently not
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On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"
actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.
dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself. Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him. I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job.
What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me?
Did you just admit you're scum?
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On July 13 2013 16:53 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 16:46 Umasi wrote:
Because he was the first one to vote for StiM and if StiM flipped town, that would be extraordinarily suspicious.
I'll put it another way. If StiM flipped green, would you push for a Chrom lynch?
svengali target hunting
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On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"
actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.
dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself. Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him. I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job. What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me? Did you just admit you're scum?
I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't
Where is the bus if I'm scum
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On July 18 2013 05:13 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:11 Chromatically wrote:On July 18 2013 05:09 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
EBWOP: Oh, my heart stopped. I thought that was Onegu saying that. Just gotard, no worries. Gotard has been scum on Super, that's still a problem. Sort of. He was an entrenched vote on Kirby when Super was a candidate Day 1. He thinks super is scum in words only, not with his vote.
Yes? He's said that Super is top 2 scum for him and then just called him town.
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On July 18 2013 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"
actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.
dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself. Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him. I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job. What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me? Did you just admit you're scum? I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't Where is the bus if I'm scum
If you refuse to defend yourself, I guess that's your prerogative. But I hope you have a plan.
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On July 18 2013 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"
actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.
dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself. Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him. I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job. What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me? Did you just admit you're scum? I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't Where is the bus if I'm scum
why the fuck would scum need to bus you yet????
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On July 14 2013 03:27 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 02:14 Rainbows wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 14 2013 01:51 StiMaDDict wrote:*sigh I fucked up. @Chromatically: You let me down and I let you down. I don't really know. I had a shitty day. I was pissed off at other things and I tried to let my stresses go away by posting on here. Then you blew it. Your nitpicking on whether I was angry or not and whether I was lying or not was really under my expectation. I think I gave you WAY TOO much credit from last game. Also you keep saying that I can't explain my so-called lie, but I did, god damn it. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 12:19 StiMaDDict wrote:Show nested quote +Note to all: + Show Spoiler +btw, I'm really trying to stay active. Sometimes I write really slow and I might be answering something that is couple of pages back. Sometimes I write one liners. My bad. + Show Spoiler +If you don't like it, well fuck you This. Pretty much repeating what Xzavier did in the last game, calling everyone retard, was from me being genuinely mad. Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 09:34 StiMaDDict wrote:
My bad, guys.
Got pissed for no reason. Spoilers and quotes kept getting messed up. Overall attitude in my posts and impolite words in them were for the purpose I have stated. Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 11:55 StiMaDDict wrote:
I did respond quite aggressively and in an angry manner, even though I was not really angry at all. There were 2 purposes: 1) To see if Rainbow would 'flinch' 2) To establish myself to others as capable of defending myself. Conclusion: He didn't flinch and I did clear my name somewhat. I could have counter pressured to get some sort of read from Rainbow, however I didn't, because it IS early in the game and without proving myself as an active town, it would have a less of impact and leave a bad impression of me. Do note: I'm not a good actor and I am not sure whether there was a clear boundary between me being mad because of quotes and spoilers and pretending to be mad at Rainbow. I was not bothered by Rainbow's pressure to put it simply and it is not in my best interest to lie about this. On July 13 2013 12:24 StiMaDDict wrote:
My previous post looks confusing.
1) I was mad at messing up posts but not at Rainbow
2) My anger reflected on my posts
3) Later when I realized that my posts were angry sounding I gave them purposes and maintain similar style.
I hope this explains it better. Not sure if this is a relevant topic though. First one wasn't clear enough so I wrote the second. I had a shitty day, alright, so I wrote some cuss words on the Internet. It wasn't something that I was proud of but it happened. So I tried to cover it up as if it was intentional with purposes and purposes they did accomplished. If you want to argue about when I came up with the idea, well, why don't dissect my brain and see. Gosh, you pissed me off. @jkirby: What you doing? + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 07:41 jrkirby wrote:Ok. I've been studying this long and hard, and I think I have enough evidence to make a clear case. hzflank is scumShow nested quote +On July 09 2013 04:04 hzflank wrote:On July 09 2013 03:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 09 2013 03:20 hzflank wrote:On July 09 2013 02:13 Stutters695 wrote:Obligatory USE YOUR COACHESWe're great guys and here to help  With WoS as the scum coach, I do not think that town will need your assistance. Uh, ouch? Need I remind you that you won a game with Ace as the scum coach too? I meant it as a compliment. Sometimes the greatest players are the worst coaches because you just cannot teach pure brilliance. Clearly, hzflank is lying about this compliment. Liars are always scum. And look who he's talking to: the scum coach. Obviously he's in league with them. He goes on, still talking to the scum: Show nested quote +On July 09 2013 04:22 hzflank wrote:On July 09 2013 04:09 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
If you vote for an hzflank lynch based on pregame meta, I will fall instantly in love with you. Then scum should night kill the first person to vote for me, because as their lover you will also die. This is an obvious admission that he wants town to die. Anyone who wants town to die is scum, end of story. Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 04:19 hzflank wrote:On July 13 2013 04:09 Chromatically wrote:
I won't be here for two hours after start. Then who will call my first post scummy?  I will. Right here, right now. And for his first post: Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 07:11 hzflank wrote:
So we are using a majority vote system. As we all know there is much more chance of a No Lynch with this system than with plurality voting.
I think it is in our best interest to try to lynch someone every day. This may seem a bit odd at first, because a mis-lynch is obviously better for scum than for town. However, the only way that town will win is by lynching scum, and we will never be sure if we are lynching town or scum unless the lynch actually goes through. If we narrowly fail to lynch then we end up spending the next day discussing it and do not move forward as much.
Also, scum already know who they are. When someone is lynched the alignment information from their flip benefits town, but not scum.
Therefore, I suggest we work together as much as possible to actually get lynches through, if they are in doubt. He's trying to get us to sheep together and follow a Bandwagon instead of looking for evidence and finding scum. Finally: Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 07:31 hzflank wrote:On July 13 2013 07:26 Koshi wrote:
Are there experienced players here? People that played a decent amount of games. Everyone here has played 3 or less games. On July 13 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:
Hi all. I played 1 newbie game in the TL+ forums and I am atm also playing in the nuclear mafia game.
I am with Rainbows on the lynching of lurkers. The tl+ game got RUINED because nobody posted. So if you are town, I want you to make around 10 posts a day. Try to make posts that are aggressive and confront people with your thought. Don't be afraid to be wrong. If you are town, please consider doing this to help town and force scum to make posts.
I think it is a bit early to be thinking about policy lynches on lurkers. Policy lynching can stifle discussion and we need discussion today. Once we get 24-36 hours in then we can consider it. Also, sometimes RL just happens for a day or two. Also, I think that there will be enough activity here. There are several players who I know will post a lot and we (the active players) cannot all die really early. Trying to defend one of the scum who is planning to lurk. You can't ignore all this evidence guys. hzflank is scum. ##Vote: hzflank He makes a pressure vote on hzflank and he never followed up on it at all. Yes, it did create a discussion between Rainbow and I, but not much from hzflank. He never provided his motive, explanation, or response after he made that one post. We know he was around when Rainbow and I were duking it out. Am I the only crazy one here and it's a normal thing to do with a pressure vote? If the purpose of the pressure vote is create a discussion why didn't he take a part? He takes it down couple of pages later basic saying that it didn't do much except getting some discussion. jkirby on Hurricane is basically this in my eyes: Your first post makes you look town. I think you post this AS A SCUM. If you are not, then show us your other post. Darn, it's too late now. I follow the thought process but it doesn't do much. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 09:35 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 09:30 StiMaDDict wrote:On July 13 2013 09:22 jrkirby wrote:On July 13 2013 09:14 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 13 2013 09:10 Chromatically wrote:On July 13 2013 08:57 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 13 2013 08:54 Chromatically wrote:On July 13 2013 08:42 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 13 2013 08:33 Chromatically wrote:On July 13 2013 08:03 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
The following was written on the contingency I got Town in my role PM. I generally don't like early Day 1 town conversations because it's 100% fluff and teasing and clouds the filters. Necessary evil? Perhaps. But let's try to kick this game into overdrive early, shall we?
Why did you include this? Are you saying you wouldn't have posted this if you were scum? Correct. I would not have posted this particular post as scum. On July 13 2013 08:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 13 2013 08:43 Rainbows wrote:On July 13 2013 08:41 Umasi wrote:
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I certainly wouldn't post that if I were scum, it is nothing but a good thing for town. Why WOULD he want to post that as scum? to look town. Scum love to spew general pro town thingsvto get ez town cred.. This is correct. In general, these sorts of posts should result in a null read in a veteran game. But Early Day 1, when it's generally assumed nothing interesting is happening, seemed like a good time to get PSA's out of the way for a newbie crowd. The info is valuable, but it should not get me town cred. It's more important to me that there's a town consensus on the actual content of the post, not my alignment. (Plenty of time for that later.) You obviously think that your post was pro town, right? That's why you shouldn't have posted it as scum. But then you say that you shouldn't get town cred from it, indicating that you don't think it's pro town. ? Pro town in a newbie game, yes. Probably wouldn't have posted it in a Veteran game unless I really felt the Day 1 conversation stagnating early. I think all my posts are pro-town. Otherwise, why would I post them? (That should apply to everyone but those with a severe inferiority complex.) That doesn't answer the point. The point is that your logic is inconsistant. You say that you wouldn't have posted this as scum. Why? You think that the post is valuable enough to town that scum wouldn't want to post it. You think that only a townie would post it. However, you say that you shouldn't get a town read for it, even though you think that only town would post it. I'm not in the business of telling people I'm town. I'm going to scumhunt and try to win this game, and a byproduct of that should be that people will view me as town. Put another way: I don't believe posting specifically with the goal of acquiring towncred is particularly helpful in anything but circumstances where I could be mislynched. I'm prioritizing getting the Town ducks in a row here in the early going so we can move on to the scumhunt, not establishing my Townie-ness. Interestingly, people (Chrom and jrkirby) have seemed more interested in analyzing why I posted rather than what I posted. Can I infer by this that we largely agree with what I have said? Pretty much what you said was: meta is bad, this is the meta that I might accidentally do. That's fine, neither particularly good nor bad imo. But you claimed that you would only post it on the condition that you were town. You admit to having a post that you would post on the condition that you're scum (which I think is foolish), but you won't show it to us, and that's just a tiny bit suspicious. Seriously man.. this is the best you can do? If he has scum post, big deal. For all we know THIS could be his scum post. Who knows. Is this your first game jrkirby? "For all we know, THIS could be his scum post." That's exactly what I was trying to get information on. Here was my reasoning: if this is his scum post, then he won't HAVE a real scum post. But it's been long enough that he could've written another one by now, so no point in pushing it anymore.No, this is my second game, kinda. This starts jkirby's trend of hedging. He drops the pressure as soon as he feels as it has been too long and Sponge could've written a copy. He doesn't say Sponge is a town or scum because of this, which I find disturbing. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 09:46 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 09:41 Umasi wrote:On July 13 2013 09:35 jrkirby wrote:On July 13 2013 09:30 StiMaDDict wrote:On July 13 2013 09:22 jrkirby wrote:On July 13 2013 09:14 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 13 2013 09:10 Chromatically wrote:On July 13 2013 08:57 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 13 2013 08:54 Chromatically wrote:On July 13 2013 08:42 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
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Correct. I would not have posted this particular post as scum. On July 13 2013 08:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
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This is correct. In general, these sorts of posts should result in a null read in a veteran game. But Early Day 1, when it's generally assumed nothing interesting is happening, seemed like a good time to get PSA's out of the way for a newbie crowd.
The info is valuable, but it should not get me town cred. It's more important to me that there's a town consensus on the actual content of the post, not my alignment. (Plenty of time for that later.) You obviously think that your post was pro town, right? That's why you shouldn't have posted it as scum. But then you say that you shouldn't get town cred from it, indicating that you don't think it's pro town. ? Pro town in a newbie game, yes. Probably wouldn't have posted it in a Veteran game unless I really felt the Day 1 conversation stagnating early. I think all my posts are pro-town. Otherwise, why would I post them? (That should apply to everyone but those with a severe inferiority complex.) That doesn't answer the point. The point is that your logic is inconsistant. You say that you wouldn't have posted this as scum. Why? You think that the post is valuable enough to town that scum wouldn't want to post it. You think that only a townie would post it. However, you say that you shouldn't get a town read for it, even though you think that only town would post it. I'm not in the business of telling people I'm town. I'm going to scumhunt and try to win this game, and a byproduct of that should be that people will view me as town. Put another way: I don't believe posting specifically with the goal of acquiring towncred is particularly helpful in anything but circumstances where I could be mislynched. I'm prioritizing getting the Town ducks in a row here in the early going so we can move on to the scumhunt, not establishing my Townie-ness. Interestingly, people (Chrom and jrkirby) have seemed more interested in analyzing why I posted rather than what I posted. Can I infer by this that we largely agree with what I have said? Pretty much what you said was: meta is bad, this is the meta that I might accidentally do. That's fine, neither particularly good nor bad imo. But you claimed that you would only post it on the condition that you were town. You admit to having a post that you would post on the condition that you're scum (which I think is foolish), but you won't show it to us, and that's just a tiny bit suspicious. Seriously man.. this is the best you can do? If he has scum post, big deal. For all we know THIS could be his scum post. Who knows. Is this your first game jrkirby? "For all we know, THIS could be his scum post." That's exactly what I was trying to get information on. Here was my reasoning: if this is his scum post, then he won't HAVE a real scum post. But it's been long enough that he could've written another one by now, so no point in pushing it anymore. No, this is my second game, kinda. Why is there no point in pushing it? There's no reason to not push it if you think it was scummy, and if you were pushing it for the sake of having something to do, just go do something else. Still, more people, what do you think of Superfluous post and then disappearance? Me - "It's been long enough that he could've written another one by now." If he had posted one immediately after I had asked it means something different than if he posts one an hour or two after I asked. Superfluous's post & lurk is bad, but give him a bit, he might show back up. Umasi feels the same way it seems. Another excuse and nothing to indicate how he feels about Sponge as a result. The bold part is another hedging. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 09:58 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 09:53 Superfluous wrote:
To address some things, especially umasi I guess. I apologize for not answering sooner, the other forums I have played on move much slower and there arent 2 and a half pages of posts after being gone for just 3-4 hours. I would be annoyed at your pushing but I think in general its a good town move as it forces information out of people. All I was saying is that, to me, we have a higher chance of lynching town than mafia. We may also end up outing a role prematurely by pushing for a day one lynch. The games that I've played/followed where mafia has 1 kp it's standard to not lynch day one. Here there is no guarantee of cop so it's different, that's why I was asking about others' opinions and not saying we 100% should do it. Sorry if you felt my post was irrelevant but no one else had even pointed it out as an option. I feel like I'm just re stating what I already said in my previous post, not sure what else you want. I think it's foolish to PLAN to not lynch day one. But if I have a choice of lynching someone that I townread, and lynching no one, I will try to lynch no one. I hope other people would follow suit. This is his opinion. I don't agree with persay but it isn't really alignment indicative. It isn't a strong expression of opinion to be honest, just a "wish" (I added this because I didn't want to only pick out scummy things jkirby said and ignore rest of his filter) + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 10:13 jrkirby wrote:
Koshi
Xzavier
Nightcat99
Gotard
cloud-9
These players haven't posted anything/enough in my opinion. It's only been a couple hours, so you might be asleep/ at work. But just a PSA, these are currently "lurkers". Doesn't reveal his view on lurkers but just "throw" the topic of lurkers out on the table. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 10:22 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 10:18 Umasi wrote:
Does it really matter if we haven't seen things from other players at this point?
It's been two hours since the game began, some people could still be working, etc. The way you popped in, said one thing kinda suspicious, then popped out is what really irks me.
Don't apologize and talk about other forums as an excuse, excuses are bad. Reasons are fine, but that didn't feel like a reason to me.
We don't need to point out no lynching as an option, because it's BAD
No lynching is something that scum would LIKE.
I think I said it in the last game I played (too lazy to dig it up,) but the only tool a townie has is their vote, so don't waste it on something like a no lynch. There should always be someone who is objectively "scummiest" that you'd rather vote for than no lynch, have a little confidence. Well, this game is majority lynch, so voting for the "scummiest" person could be what causes a lynch not to happen. I'm pretty sure scum wouldn't mind lynching town either. General common sense. It's just me but I don't like this semi-joking statement. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 10:32 jrkirby wrote:Honestly? I have real trouble seeing scum until I see voting patterns. I'm slightly more suspicious of Sponge, Umasi, and Rainbows than the rest. Sponge I've stated my reasons for. I don't really trust my read on Rainbows because [meta here] I thought he was scum last time I played with him and he wasn't. Umasi just reads a bit ornery, so that could be the reason for my weak read.My vote on hzflank was kinda a combo of joke/pressure as you guys pointed out. It got a bit of discussion, but didn't get much of a rise out of hzflank, who I currently have null read on. I guess I should unvote him now, since the pressure obviously didn't do too much. ##unvote: hzflank A list of suspicion list that doesn't have "legitimate" reasons or evidence. So he does feel suspicious about Sponge afterall about him not sharing his opening post in time, I'm assuming. About Rainbow, I am not sure. He words in a confusing way. In last game, jkirby thought Rainbow was scum but he was a town. So in this game he thinks Rainbow is a town but he could be a scum or vise versa? Concerning Umasi, his reasoning it not satisfying either. Also he doubts his ability to read other people. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 11:03 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 10:32 jrkirby wrote:On July 13 2013 10:23 Chromatically wrote:
Kirby, who do you think is scum? Honestly? I have real trouble seeing scum until I see voting patterns. I'm slightly more suspicious of Sponge, Umasi, and Rainbows than the rest. Sponge I've stated my reasons for. I don't really trust my read on Rainbows because [meta here] I thought he was scum last time I played with him and he wasn't. Umasi just reads a bit ornery, so that could be the reason for my weak read. My vote on hzflank was kinda a combo of joke/pressure as you guys pointed out. It got a bit of discussion, but didn't get much of a rise out of hzflank, who I currently have null read on. I guess I should unvote him now, since the pressure obviously didn't do too much. ##unvote: hzflank Why are you suspicious of Rainbows? What do you think about Super? Chromatically followed up asking why jkirby is suspicious of Rainbow and what he thinks of Super. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 11:56 StiMaDDict wrote:
Waiting on jkirby's response to Chromatically's question. I had same question as Chromatically and brought it back up. At the end, he still hasn't answered it at the time of me posting this. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 10:47 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 10:42 Rainbows wrote:
I play exactly the same as scum and town imo.
Last game was just me being frustrated and correct :p lol. You should fear the Rainbows. Anyone think this could be a scumslip? He seems the kind that might want to subtly brag about it if he were scum. I can never figure out when people are joking and not. This is just really fucking weak and gets on my nerve. If it is a joke, then fuck me. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 10:58 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 10:56 Umasi wrote:
He came in, emphasized his newness to the game, and it felt like he was giving excuses for not posting, not reasons.
(I realize that they're extremely similar, but I think it's a matter of tone)
the timing he came in at (right when we brought up lurkers) to be like "I'm trying not to lurk"
is just
kind of......weird?
I think it's out of place and scummy. He said he couldn't be in here at the beginning before the game started, right? No real reason to have suspicion on the lurkers yet, just note that they're lurking. This is pretty fucking bad. Protecting a lurker when he was the one to bring up the topic at all. I don't know what he is trying to do, but then again, I'm fucked up pretty hard with my playstyle.. Anyway, protecting not just one lurker but pretty much all of them and making an excuse for them makes me think he is a scum. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 13:21 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 13:14 StiMaDDict wrote:On July 13 2013 13:08 Umasi wrote:
Nightcat, the best way to establish innocence is to scum hunt, it's always time to scumhunt. Apparently I'm the scummiest fucking bastard in this game. Jump on board the StiM wagon and earn easy town cred! You know, I'm done. Contribute? Yeah fucking right. Sit in front of the computer for 6 fucking hours refreshing and trying to god damn contribute and what I get is "so you weren't angry but you pretended to be angry?" Town shouldn't lie about that. I wasn't fucking lying. Jesus. w/e. Cool it dude. For all you know, the people voting for you could be scum trying to get you riled up. Just calm down, post reads, question things, and have a good game. You won't play your best when you're tilting. You're in no way doomed right now. I guess I should thanks for his kind words (?) but as Chromatically has pointed out, he is trying to pat me on the head as if he is saying, "Chromatically and Umasi could scum you know. Come here, you poor baby." + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 13:31 jrkirby wrote:
2 votes land on a guy is quick succession, I'd be stupid if I weren't at least a BIT suspicious. As far as I can tell, stim is just acting like a bit of an idiot, is flustered, and frustrated. Doesn't seem like scumtell to me. You're free to have your vote, and I don't have a solid scumread on either of you, but I will be looking a bit more closely at your filters. No stand or point whatsoever. I'm not a scum. Chromatically and Umasi are not scum, but they are "bit" suspicious. What is your stance man? Stop hedging. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 13:38 jrkirby wrote:
I don't think he's town. I think he's stupid, and have a nullread. Well thanks, I think I'm stupid too. I'm not a town but you have a nullread on me? What was the purpose of writing above two posts then? Confused and scummy. I am not liking how he is dealing with me blowing up. He seems to be neither or both defending and pressuring in this situation. + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2013 13:42 jrkirby wrote:
I don't think he's thinking through what he's saying. His actions don't seem town because they're foolish from every way you look at them. But that doesn't make him clearly scum. Hedging. Period. Conclusion: jkirby is my biggest scumread atm. He seems to be Onegue from XLII. Acting as if he is contributing but without actual content. He is not really expressing his reads and tend much more to hedge. He has not established a strong stance as a town and hasn't given clear reasons for his suspicion. ##Vote: jkirby Mmmm greetings stranger. I'm not surprised to see your kind around here... I like the case, esp the hedging point. +1 Can you explain which parts of the case are most compelling to you? I disagree with this case, and I'd like to hear from someone who buys into it.
I liked this but what happened later
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On July 18 2013 05:16 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:13 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 18 2013 05:11 Chromatically wrote:On July 18 2013 05:09 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
EBWOP: Oh, my heart stopped. I thought that was Onegu saying that. Just gotard, no worries. Gotard has been scum on Super, that's still a problem. Sort of. He was an entrenched vote on Kirby when Super was a candidate Day 1. He thinks super is scum in words only, not with his vote. Yes? He's said that Super is top 2 scum for him and then just called him town.
I think we're arguing the same thing. That both Gotard and Super are scum.
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On July 18 2013 05:17 Xzavier wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"
actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.
dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself. Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him. I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job. What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me? Did you just admit you're scum? I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't Where is the bus if I'm scum why the fuck would scum need to bus you yet????
you seriously think your position right now is that your lynch is unavoidable O.O
i dont get it, at all.
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On July 18 2013 05:17 Xzavier wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"
actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.
dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself. Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him. I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job. What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me? Did you just admit you're scum? I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't Where is the bus if I'm scum why the fuck would scum need to bus you yet????
Because I refuse to defend myself. If the bus comes cool.
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On July 18 2013 05:18 Xzavier wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:17 Xzavier wrote:On July 18 2013 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"
actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.
dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself. Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him. I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job. What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me? Did you just admit you're scum? I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't Where is the bus if I'm scum why the fuck would scum need to bus you yet???? you seriously think your position right now is that your lynch is unavoidable O.O i dont get it, at all.
YES
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On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job.
please dont do this shit.
Its towns duty to defend himself to the last breadth, and make as many logical cases and answer as many questions while he lives.
A town player loves chances to defend himself, and loves nothing more than to defend himself....
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On July 18 2013 05:19 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:18 Xzavier wrote:On July 18 2013 05:17 Xzavier wrote:On July 18 2013 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"
actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.
dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself. Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him. I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job. What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me? Did you just admit you're scum? I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't Where is the bus if I'm scum why the fuck would scum need to bus you yet???? you seriously think your position right now is that your lynch is unavoidable O.O i dont get it, at all. YES
Alakaslam, I love you. But if this is your attitude, Forum Mafia may not be your game, friend.
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On July 18 2013 05:19 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:18 Xzavier wrote:On July 18 2013 05:17 Xzavier wrote:On July 18 2013 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"
actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.
dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself. Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him. I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job. What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me? Did you just admit you're scum? I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't Where is the bus if I'm scum why the fuck would scum need to bus you yet???? you seriously think your position right now is that your lynch is unavoidable O.O i dont get it, at all. YES
Well let me explain.
Oneg had a case against hs that I thought was ok and he did defend really well. Then I had meta vibes, he's not playing like the strong town I once saw. He is playing far more. . . I don't know, capably and with more influence. He is basically controlling town at this point. I think that's great when there have been successful lynches but not when every single one seems to land on town, yet with great cases. When scum has a great svengali esque leader, town loses- LOSES! It is better that one die and point this out with his death than that he go defending himself and give svengali more towncred.
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Wait, alakaslam thought I was scummy. Why is he packing it in as if I represent the entire town vote?
As town: A guy I think is scum accuses me. Play: Defend and counter-attack!
As scum: A guy I know has huge town cred attacks me. Play: Curl up and cry.
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On July 18 2013 05:19 Xzavier wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:
I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job. please dont do this shit. Its towns duty to defend himself to the last breadth, and make as many logical cases and answer as many questions while he lives. A town player loves chances to defend himself, and loves nothing more than to defend himself....
No way! THis is all I did last newbie game and I was totes sucm for it.
I'm not making that same mistake twice.
And no, if I figure out someone and can implicate them with my flip, good. If I survive better.
For now I am gonna build this
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WOW
For the record my post just now was not reactive. I was constructing it simultaneously. That is amazing how well I called that.
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On July 18 2013 05:23 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Wait, alakaslam thought I was scummy. Why is he packing it in as if I represent the entire town vote?
As town: A guy I think is scum accuses me. Play: Defend and counter-attack!
As scum: A guy I know has huge town cred attacks me. Play: Curl up and cry.
Incorrect! Or why was I lynched last game? Why was I so scummy last game?
This IS my defense!
.... Sort of.
Anyway, back to work while I have the computer at my disposal.
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On July 18 2013 05:20 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2013 05:19 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:18 Xzavier wrote:On July 18 2013 05:17 Xzavier wrote:On July 18 2013 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 18 2013 05:13 Alakaslam wrote:On July 18 2013 05:11 Xzavier wrote:
alaka, respond to his case, dont just try to pass it off as: "SEE THESE FUCKUPS I MADE PROOVE HIM MORE SCUM"
actually tell us why the inconsistencies and defend youself.
dont tunnel him so hard that you ignore cases against yourself. Problem is part of what he wants me to do is explain why I am suspicious of him. I'm not gonna defend myself, svengali has you all mesmerized. If I flip this will help more than defending myself against him, if he's town defending against him is scum's job. What? If I'm town, it's scum's job to defend you from me? Did you just admit you're scum? I mean if I'm scum of course I'll defend. If I'm town I don't give a rat's ass so I don't Where is the bus if I'm scum why the fuck would scum need to bus you yet???? you seriously think your position right now is that your lynch is unavoidable O.O i dont get it, at all. YES Alakaslam, I love you. But if this is your attitude, Forum Mafia may not be your game, friend.
I have been starting to think this but I enjoy it immensely
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