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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 17 2013 20:47 GMT
#1881
alaka, i didnt see him buttering up nightcat and shit, i saw him encouraging him to play more pro-town and motivating him. This game is intimidating as shit when you first start (this is my third game) seeing that in the thread can help.

Im trying to follow your leaps alaka, but i cant. and i can follow Hurricanes.


Mafia :D
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:47 GMT
#1882
On July 18 2013 05:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:41 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:37 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:36 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Constructive criticism?

On July 17 2013 09:54 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 17 2013 09:27 Nightcat99 wrote:
I have been reading the filters again for gotard and super and here is what i think.
On July 13 2013 19:53 Gotard wrote:
Hello! After some lurking (jk I was sleeping) i'd like to share my thoughts:


On July 13 2013 20:12 Gotard wrote:
On July 13 2013 19:57 Chromatically wrote:
Gotard, who do you want to lynch?

Easy question. Umasi and Xzavier!!! (jk)


On July 14 2013 05:32 Gotard wrote:

"On top of that, he's barely posted, hasn't posted an original scumread, and has pressured no one.". It's hard to post "original scumread" when you are in EU timezone and game is the most active when you sleep. Do you want me to talk to myself? rotfl. (That was a little scummy excuse T_T). I do what I can do which is more passive play.


On July 16 2013 02:44 Gotard wrote:

Getting mad after misreading. Emotional plays like that indicates bad town to me. Unless he wants to fake being mad after I defended Stim.

And the most important note : he can't spell my name.


On July 16 2013 03:40 Gotard wrote:
On July 16 2013 03:33 Koshi wrote:
Gotard, How can I become good town?

You need to become town first. Play again!?


On July 17 2013 07:33 Gotard wrote:
Wanted to check stuff before going to sleep.
(offtopic I might add you on osu! later if I will remember)[



He has been adding in j/k and other things in his post to make his posting seem much more relax then it is and thats a very scummy read to me. Plus it can be a precaution for future slip ups. Also he most recent post after long hour of lurking didnt help the situation but seems to make things worst

On July 17 2013 07:27 Gotard wrote:
My top reads:

Town:
-Umasi
-Onegu

Mafia:
Superfluous - still didn't do anything pro town except for out of place cop advice. But everyone assumes town-town lynch day 1. Problem is that we couldn't move our votes freely because this tribunal thingy and there wasn't enough place for mafia to make big plays even when they would like to defend him. Another this is that Chromatically defended him so mafia didn't even have to do that. To be honest jrkirby's case on me could be good enough to put him as 2nd lynch but someone needed to put some effort into highlighting that. That is why even when that lynch looked like it was town-town it might not be the case.

On July 16 2013 10:59 Superfluous wrote:
For once I agree with Xzavier, Maf don't have to role block so they could just skip a night and say one of them got role blocked. That said I doubt they'd do it night one.

This post looks like "hey everyone! Mafia don't have a role blocker!".

Nightcat99 - Ask questions that you can easily google and find answers in 10 seconds. Shitload of useless one/two liners. 4 pages of bad content.

Off-topic: I was surprised that you can post during the day in my first game, but you should check it...


i mean his top 2 town read were umasi, who no one has accused and onegu, who replaced stim, who gave alot of tells, athough nothing is for sure, no one is accusing onegu mainly because os stims blowup.

his mafia picks superfluous , the current most voted person , and me which isnt even an accusation.

I would vote gotard at a heart beat atm, but i am still hoping super would come back and post somethings before i put my vote in, beside there is plenty of time left.




This is interesting analysis. Thank you for posting it. (Trying to be encouraging to new players who are bringing unique analysis to the scumhunt)


What did nightcat do wrong there
that is just acknowledgement of trying and good yes but one must be willing to give to town for svengali play


So... not being nice enough... but when I'm being nice it's an obvious scum play.

Do you see the problem here?
Not an obvious scum play, this is more of a scum play than I was claiming that was! you are taking big leaps on what I say but won't tolerate any potential leap I make.

As for the comment about being wrong, don't lynch me then and stop tunneling. If you actually believe that I'd rather spare you the trouble.


I made a case on you that you refuse to defend. I've made my other reads public, and will post cases on them at Nighttime. The fact that you feel that 40 minutes of pressure is 'tunneling' seems like your problem, not mine.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:49 GMT
#1883
On July 18 2013 05:47 Alakaslam wrote:
I have finally hit it, this is what actually bugs me:

Hurricane does not second guess a single lynch option of his. He did this a bit last game.

That is probably not a good enough reason to tunnel him.

So I cannot say whether or not I should continue. Funny, I also just realized when you said defend and counterattack? What was I doing then? If this is curl up and cry this is some nutsy crying

And far more coherent than I usually am. But I sux when coherent


Check the filter. I've gone back and forth on Super a lot. I explored hz as a scum target before I figured out what he was doing. I usually wouldn't defend myself from these, but it's too tasty, and I want Alakaslam to have no excuses for not defending my case on him.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 17 2013 20:49 GMT
#1884
On July 18 2013 05:41 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:37 hzflank wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:29 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
We'll get Slam tomorrow if anyone has thoughts on my case. (assuming the game doesn't end tonight if Gotard is somehow a mislynch and the stupid SK kills a townie)


We can think about who we pressure tomorrow after we see a flip. Lets just start by lynching scum today.

The game cannot end yet due to night actions. Even if the town were to end up outnumbered by the scum, with the SK in the game almost anything could happen. Regardless, the ideal situation would be to lynch red today.


Mislynch, successful scum NK, SK hits a townie. That's game over in some formats because the Mafia equal the Townies (3 to 3). There was a game on TL mafia very recently involving a Survivor (I think it was Wave of Shadow?) where the admin said that once the mafia equal the number of town, it's endgame: winner Mafia.

Can we get a ruling for this game? Is it still game on if it's 3/3/1?


Survivor doesnt have KP, SK does.

3/3/1. SK shoots scum, scum shoots SK (Vet). Then it is 3/2/1. There are many other examples of how it could play out.

Even at 1/1/1 the SK and Scum could kill each other and town could win.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:49 GMT
#1885
On July 18 2013 05:47 Alakaslam wrote:
I have finally hit it, this is what actually bugs me:

Hurricane does not second guess a single lynch option of his. He did this a bit last game.

That is probably not a good enough reason to tunnel him.

So I cannot say whether or not I should continue. Funny, I also just realized when you said defend and counterattack? What was I doing then? If this is curl up and cry this is some nutsy crying

And far more coherent than I usually am. But I sux when coherent


Bolded for key ingredient missing.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:52 GMT
#1886
I want Onegu's thoughts on my case as well.

@Onegu


What do you think of my case on Alakaslam?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 17 2013 20:53 GMT
#1887
EBWOP

I know how to win as town at 3/3/1 with a survivor...but no need to show you that play since we do not have a survivor.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 20:54 GMT
#1888
On July 18 2013 05:53 hzflank wrote:
EBWOP

I know how to win as town at 3/3/1 with a survivor...but no need to show you that play since we do not have a survivor.


Postgame maybe. If I can find your second play.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 21:00 GMT
#1889
Xzavier, you crazy bastard, get your vote on Gotard so I can leave the house.

(We may be vulnerable to No Lynch shenanigans. Alakaslam could pull his vote off for any number of reasons leaving us at 6. Then it would just take one more person to feign confusion or just make terrible plays to cause a No Lynch)
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 17 2013 21:03 GMT
#1890
No lynch will not happen.
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 17 2013 21:03 GMT
#1891
ill leave the same clause, unless he does it at 7:59:59 i will insure the lynch to the best of my abilities,. but i want this motherfucker to post damnit!!!

also it only takes 6 votes to lynch
Mafia :D
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 17 2013 21:36 GMT
#1892
I won't be here until after deadline, lynch Gotard and don't pull any shennanies.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 21:45:40
July 17 2013 21:40 GMT
#1893
On July 18 2013 05:41 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:37 hzflank wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:29 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
We'll get Slam tomorrow if anyone has thoughts on my case. (assuming the game doesn't end tonight if Gotard is somehow a mislynch and the stupid SK kills a townie)


We can think about who we pressure tomorrow after we see a flip. Lets just start by lynching scum today.

The game cannot end yet due to night actions. Even if the town were to end up outnumbered by the scum, with the SK in the game almost anything could happen. Regardless, the ideal situation would be to lynch red today.


Mislynch, successful scum NK, SK hits a townie. That's game over in some formats because the Mafia equal the Townies (3 to 3). There was a game on TL mafia very recently involving a Survivor (I think it was Wave of Shadow?) where the admin said that once the mafia equal the number of town, it's endgame: winner Mafia.

Can we get a ruling for this game? Is it still game on if it's 3/3/1?


If a day starts and there are 7 players (3 mafia, 3 VTs, and 1 SK), the game is not over.
If a day starts and there are 7 players (3 mafia, 3 VTs, and 1 Survivor), the game is not over. Although in this event it would be trivial for the Survivor to win by voting with the mafia, usually the information known by each party is such that it's possible for town to win from this position.
If a night starts and there are 7 players (3 mafia, 3 VTs, and 1 SK), the game is not over.
If a night starts and there are 7 players (3 mafia, 3 VTs, and 1 Survivor), the game is not over. In this example, though, town can't win. It's just a question of whether the scum shoot the Survivor or whether they shoot a VT-- determine if it's a Scum or Scum+3p victory.

You can find the specific win conditions for all factions in the OP.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 21:45 GMT
#1894
On July 18 2013 06:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:41 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:37 hzflank wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:29 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
We'll get Slam tomorrow if anyone has thoughts on my case. (assuming the game doesn't end tonight if Gotard is somehow a mislynch and the stupid SK kills a townie)


We can think about who we pressure tomorrow after we see a flip. Lets just start by lynching scum today.

The game cannot end yet due to night actions. Even if the town were to end up outnumbered by the scum, with the SK in the game almost anything could happen. Regardless, the ideal situation would be to lynch red today.


Mislynch, successful scum NK, SK hits a townie. That's game over in some formats because the Mafia equal the Townies (3 to 3). There was a game on TL mafia very recently involving a Survivor (I think it was Wave of Shadow?) where the admin said that once the mafia equal the number of town, it's endgame: winner Mafia.

Can we get a ruling for this game? Is it still game on if it's 3/3/1?


If a day starts and there are 7 players (3 mafia, 3 VTs, and 1 SK), the game is not over.
If a day starts and there are 7 players (3 mafia, 3 VTs, and 1 Survivor), the game is not over.
If a night starts and there are 7 players (3 mafia, 3 VTs, and 1 SK), the game is not over.
If a night starts and there are 7 players (3 mafia, 3 VTs, and 1 Survivor), the game is not over. In this example, though, town can't win. It's just a question of whether the scum shoot the Survivor or whether they shoot a VT-- determine if it's a Scum or Scum+3p victory.

You can find the specific win conditions for all factions in the OP.


Thank you Blazinghand. Best admin NA.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 17 2013 21:46 GMT
#1895
On July 18 2013 06:36 Chromatically wrote:
I won't be here until after deadline, lynch Gotard and don't pull any shennanies.


Okay guys, now is our chance, everyone vote for Chrom.
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 21:50 GMT
#1896
On July 18 2013 06:46 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 06:36 Chromatically wrote:
I won't be here until after deadline, lynch Gotard and don't pull any shennanies.


Okay guys, now is our chance, everyone vote for Chrom.


Did someone say Tribunal Time?!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2013 21:51 GMT
#1897
I had a good night of sleep.
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 17 2013 21:55 GMT
#1898
On July 18 2013 06:50 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 06:46 hzflank wrote:
On July 18 2013 06:36 Chromatically wrote:
I won't be here until after deadline, lynch Gotard and don't pull any shennanies.


Okay guys, now is our chance, everyone vote for Chrom.


Did someone say Tribunal Time?!



I CALL UPON THE VOTES OF THE OTHERWORLDY SOULS

HEAR ME AS I CALL YOUR VOTES INTO EXISTANCE

KOSHI, FIRMTOFU, BLAZINGHAND, RAINBOWS, JKIRBY

JOIN US AS WE LYNCH THE UNGRATEFUL SCUM OF THIS GALAXY

CAST YOUR VOTES DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS UPON THINE THAT KNOWS THE NAME OF CHROMATICALLY

Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
July 17 2013 21:56 GMT
#1899
EBWOP:

Oh, i forgot the one guy who carried me in my first mafia game, he was the JK, whats his name again?

oh god hes gonna kill me for this
Mafia :D
Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
July 17 2013 21:56 GMT
#1900
On July 18 2013 06:55 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 06:50 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
On July 18 2013 06:46 hzflank wrote:
On July 18 2013 06:36 Chromatically wrote:
I won't be here until after deadline, lynch Gotard and don't pull any shennanies.


Okay guys, now is our chance, everyone vote for Chrom.


Did someone say Tribunal Time?!



I CALL UPON THE VOTES OF THE OTHERWORLDY SOULS

HEAR ME AS I CALL YOUR VOTES INTO EXISTANCE

KOSHI, FIRMTOFU, BLAZINGHAND, RAINBOWS, JKIRBY

JOIN US AS WE LYNCH THE UNGRATEFUL SCUM OF THIS GALAXY

CAST YOUR VOTES DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS UPON THINE THAT KNOWS THE NAME OF CHROMATICALLY



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