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geript
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 16 2013 05:52 geript wrote: Mayhaps. Ace is worrisome, as are a number of other folks, but I like vayne and snb better for scum than that group, and chez much more for scum than alakaslam or onegu.Stutters is prob 3p but should be ignored. CA is likely scum and one of Alakaslam/Onegu/Chez alakaslam started off slap-happy, doing all sorts of nonsense, and has dropped most of the nonsense as the game has gone on. Town started off in a good position, less good position now. His style of posting reflects that, and makes me think he's town and not posting as much silly/good-natured stuff because he's feeling less silly/happy about the game. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Everyone says Ace is confirmed town:
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 16 2013 05:26 strongandbig wrote: doing a lurker lynch for no reason was stupid and was probably an idea pushed by scum. a last minute lurker switch on freaking day 3? just shows the town has no momentum to get anything done. probably the town can't get anything done at this point. but the town actually never got anything done in the first place. that's why austin and probably ace at this point are scum. if they were town and as active as they are being, this would never have happened. lucky for them that there are apparently no townies who care enough to actually try organizing people. lol really? So you calling me scum breh? List post inc. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 16 2013 06:01 WaveofShadow wrote: lol really? So you calling me scum breh? List post inc. I think there's something off about you that I can't put my finger on. But maybe it's just those nagging feelings I always have about you. IDK, I just don't see you as scum though. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7429 Posts
On July 16 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote: Mayhaps. Ace is worrisome, as are a number of other folks, but I like vayne and snb better for scum than that group, and chez much more for scum than alakaslam or onegu. alakaslam started off slap-happy, doing all sorts of nonsense, and has dropped most of the nonsense as the game has gone on. Town started off in a good position, less good position now. His style of posting reflects that, and makes me think he's town and not posting as much silly/good-natured stuff because he's feeling less silly/happy about the game. I thought we were friends... Well, then... I don't think your so townie either!  + Show Spoiler + thanks for the suspicion at night. It keeps me safe from the mafia. Your the bestest friend ever except for alakaslam cause we so tight we got an alliance. | ||
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austinmcc
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 16 2013 06:04 Chezinu wrote: Chez makes game interesting.I thought we were friends... Well, then... I don't think your so townie either! + Show Spoiler + thanks for the suspicion at night. It keeps me safe from the mafia. Your the bestest friend ever except for alakaslam cause we so tight we got an alliance. Chez has been absent for a chunk of this game, or just...not really impacting it from what I can see. Therefore, Chez isn't Chez. So if Chez is town, because Chez isn't Chez this game, Chez isn't town. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7429 Posts
On July 16 2013 06:06 austinmcc wrote: Chez makes game interesting. Chez has been absent for a chunk of this game, or just...not really impacting it from what I can see. Therefore, Chez isn't Chez. So if Chez is town, because Chez isn't Chez this game, Chez isn't town. I wasn't here yesterday. That was just one day. But I R here now! | ||
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Chezinu
United States7429 Posts
On July 16 2013 06:06 austinmcc wrote: Chez makes game interesting. Chez has been absent for a chunk of this game, or just...not really impacting it from what I can see. Therefore, Chez isn't Chez. So if Chez is town, because Chez isn't Chez this game, Chez isn't town. Oh are you talking about the lack of people wanting to kill me? I've been thinking about that. I think its because mafia knows I don't have anything. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Oats - Actively shot down nukes on townies super early. Makes no sense to do for towncred imo. Since him and Geript have the same role I would bet specifically in this case that there is no way they are both town, so if I'm wrong about Geript, he is scum. Stutters - No fucking clue. Leaning town on him a little since fake nuke and all but meh. Sentinel - nuked scum. Ace - Leaning town honestly. Can't be sure why, but he had plenty of plays he could have made as scum but didn't. For whoever says it makes sense as scum to shoot him early, Ace has a pretty hefty mislynch history recently and doesn't play in a 'cleanly' town way that people would expect him to, so he's difficult to read, hence good for mafia to leave up. MajuGarzett - Fuck if I know but he's gotta die at this point. Johnnywup - Not a superstrong townread but a town read nonetheless. His anger at the case I made on him early seemed genuine and he looks to be trying when it would be pretty easy just to lurk the fuck out since nobody pays much attention to him. [green]Onegu/green] - Town. Pretty much has to be for that comment where he says he killed Tofu. Geript - Not as strong of a scumread as I had earlier. Remember what I said about him and Oats and think about my case on him if we see flips on the people he was involved with earlier (ie MG) Vayne - He really DOES change his playstyle from game to game. Whereas at one point this much activity and analysis could be considered a scumread, in his last game (where he was mislynched, hilariously) he played well and was town. StrongandBig - I refuse to believe that everyone in this game is playing against their wincon so blatantly so kill this guy too. Chezinu - No fucking idea. His play in LX looked a lot like this guy and he was scum. Caucasianasian - Gutread. I dunno I can't see his scumteam letting him come back constantly and just post 'HAY GUYS I GIFF READS' and then disappears 80 times. Alakaslam - This guy is psycho. To be fair I've never seen his scum play so I don't know if it would be as crazy but this certainly looks exactly like how he's been playing town thus far. Austin - I have no idea honestly. I want to say with the effort he's thrown in over the last little while he'd be town but I just don't know him well enough to be able to tell for sure. I guess he did put in shit tons of effort like this in PTP and was scum.... Hmm. Too many townreads it seems. Have a look at Vayne. I'll downgrade him to null. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 16 2013 06:13 Chezinu wrote: Nah. Just the lack of you ... doing you stuff? Oh are you talking about the lack of people wanting to kill me? I've been thinking about that. I think its because mafia knows I don't have anything. Even if you were just absent yesterday, that would mean you weren't you yesterday, and weren't town yesterday, but I don't think your alignment changes, so you'd have to still be mafia? I think that if you're you some days of this game and not you for other days of this game, you need that couch again. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 16 2013 06:16 WaveofShadow wrote: AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH. YOU ARE MAKING MY HEAD GET A HURT-Y FEELING.Vayne - He really DOES change his playstyle from game to game. Whereas at one point this much activity and analysis could be considered a scumread, in his last game (where he was mislynched, hilariously) he played well and was town. He hung on a chez = scum read for more than a day, based on a gut read that was never explained further. He voted jampi right at the end of D2 based on going back to some other game, not linking any specific posts, but saying jampi wasn't playing like himself that game. I repeat:
He voted me D3 because the hosts wouldn't answer a question of his. His analysis of snb yesterday was that snb might be town, might be scum. | ||
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johnnywup
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 16 2013 06:19 austinmcc wrote: AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH. YOU ARE MAKING MY HEAD GET A HURT-Y FEELING. He hung on a chez = scum read for more than a day, based on a gut read that was never explained further. He voted jampi right at the end of D2 based on going back to some other game, not linking any specific posts, but saying jampi wasn't playing like himself that game. I repeat:
He voted me D3 because the hosts wouldn't answer a question of his. His analysis of snb yesterday was that snb might be town, might be scum. Did you read the end of my listpost?  | ||
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Chezinu
United States7429 Posts
On July 16 2013 06:16 austinmcc wrote: Nah. Just the lack of you ... doing you stuff? Even if you were just absent yesterday, that would mean you weren't you yesterday, and weren't town yesterday, but I don't think your alignment changes, so you'd have to still be mafia? I think that if you're you some days of this game and not you for other days of this game, you need that couch again. I was at church yesterday. Other games don't have deadlines Sunday afternoons. What couch? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Town, in order to win, has to analyze the game and push it forward. Therefore, people who post/analyze/push the game forward are town, and people who don't do so are null/scum. Posts in which you call everyone in the game mafia - + Show Spoiler + On July 16 2013 05:26 VayneAuthority wrote: not really lets go through koshi - dont agree with any of his opinions, seems like he's being told by some one else what to say as his reads and stuff are completely outdated and only fit a motive that is clearly not town; he is holding on to lynches on people that others want to but gives the same reason for other people being lynchable but since town is okay with them he is too! Oatsmaster - generally way more involved than this, but he has defended town with his anti defenses and stuff...shrug mostly comes down to inactivity making me slightly weary. Once he got his towncred he checked out of the thread and that worries me. Stutters - All this fake claiming nonsense, doesn't really help his cause Z-Boson - Same as koshi, keeps ancient/outdated reads that look to serve some outside purpose. He's kind of flying under the radar too for the most which isn't condemning but is strange Sentinel - OK I can maybe trust sentinel, thats about it. Ace - Thought he was confirmed town until his connection to the whole stutters thing and his last second "im good with gumshoe" now not so sure. Majugarzett - uh yea, about him. why is he still alive Johnnywup - My first reads are usually good but I stayed away from him after he picked it up. As of late though I am suspicious due to paranoid reasons as since then he's gone completely under the radar. Onegu - Immune one claim, hasn't done much shrug. no reason to trust him Geript - Thought he was scummy by actions and posts but people keep throwing these ridiculous conspiracy theories at him that sound batshit insane if he was actually scum. Hard to tell whats going on there. strongandbig - Thought he was suspicious then out of nowhere people start chiming in how he is super suspicious and almost gets lynched but then people switch to gumshoe last second. Hard to believe yourself when you got people coming out of nowhere to agree with you. CA - lurker Alakasam - complete nonsense filter, wouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum WaveofShadow - He seems to be town but then some of his posts really throw me off. Think he is town but another paranoid thing. Chezinu - scum Austin - scum On July 16 2013 04:34 VayneAuthority wrote: This is a real post, or the start of a real line of reasoning. Here are two guys I think are similar, but people are reading them differently. Okay, great, that's actually analyzing this game and trying to move forward. Oats is also a lot afk, but Oats is considered town, but I would like to see him more active. SnB is not putting enough time in this game, he could be scum very easily. lol this is great. So popular opinion dictates Oats is town so I won't try to mislynch him, but SnB is scum for the same reason, and hey magically everyone is suspicious of him too! BUT WAIT. THERE'S (NO) MORE! He doesn't note Oats's role. Doesn't consider snb yesterday, actually look at stuff, was content with maybe scum or maybe town. He's making statements that COULD be townie trains of thought, but he's never actually developing the thoughts. They are just throwaway statements with no work behind them, he's not seeking to SOLVE the game, he's seeking to COMMENT on the game. And always in a negative light. If I die tonight scum is sillypants. But.....this is one of the easier rules to apply to the game, imo. Town is trying to solve the game and move it forward from this point. Scum is just sitting here. People who refuse to comment on stuff, refuse to analyze the players up for lynch, they are not playing for town. Anyone actively working to solve the game and post MAY be scum, but it's more likely, imo, that this game has just been not a great one for town, and so most townies have done things or placed votes that look scummy. Therefore, more important than who has lynched what, given that all of us have lynched town each day, is how people are playing. VA is not analyzing, is not playing for town, and is scum. It's one reason I'm still somewhat townie on geript. There are some hitches, but I read those as just scummy things that a townie has done in a game, because he's still actively playing from a townie mindset imo and trying to solve the game. Scum is sitting so pretty, they absolutely don't care about that right now. Go read like...personality 2. Our scum team crushed face that game, and by the last day we didn't give a crap. We were joking in QT, halfway outing ourselves in threads with our awful play and voting, but it didn't even matter. Town was so confused and mixed up that it didn't matter. But townies were still trying to SOLVE the game, while we were being dicks. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 16 2013 06:27 Chezinu wrote: I was at church yesterday. Other games don't have deadlines Sunday afternoons. What couch? Wasn't this the game where you laid down on Geript or someone's couch early on? You say "I think its because mafia knows I don't have anything," but what I hear is "I want to sleep with my mother, but cannot. Therefore, I feel powerless." | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On July 16 2013 05:41 austinmcc wrote: snb, let's play this game, if you really want to. Here's a post where someone actually went and looked at past games of yours: Surprise. I did that. I went and looked at your games, so stop asking people to go look at your games, and stop saying it's just about activity/inactivity. I've seen you modkilled/warned for inactivity as town, that's true. But in your town games, and I could go pull a number of other differences, you give your thoughts on people. Some folks are scum, some are town. You may have lazy lynches where you choose 3-4 people and say you'd lynch any, but within this game, you've decided to do nothing but (1) do nothing or (2) call people scum. Would you care to explain who is town this game and why? Who you just THINK is town? this is a lot of form and not a lot of content. you write out lists but dont analyze those lists in any way except for your impressions. also the idea that not having town reads is scum motivated is retarded. town reads are way easier when you're scum because you know who is town, lol. there's no one in this game who i trust as town and think is worth listening to. oh also regarding the maju thing - i wanted to lynch you. but i also thought townies were being stupid about maju and told them so. | ||
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