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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States16948 Posts
Well I think the next course of action is in the voting thread. хорошо играл товарищ! в следующий раз, послать кого-нибудь, как волна тени или "Onegu» или себя, кто-то, как "Xata", который так город, они, вероятно, умрут опасна ... Nonetheless wise in the moment, but this is why I had picked ace at first. I figured he had suspicion so would last the night unmolested. | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On July 13 2013 11:40 Alakaslam wrote: Sigh. Well I think the next course of action is in the voting thread. хорошо играл товарищ! в следующий раз, послать кого-нибудь, как волна тени или "Onegu» или себя, кто-то, как "Xata", который так город, они, вероятно, умрут опасна ... Nonetheless wise in the moment, but this is why I had picked ace at first. I figured he had suspicion so would last the night unmolested. I thought we were going to stop writeing in russian, I am to lazy to translate even though I see my name. @stutters why didnt you make a different type of nuke. Most people had xata as town and with his claim a radiation nuke would have been much better, are you just lazy? | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11559 Posts
On July 13 2013 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote: SURPRISE NUCLEAR LAUNCH s0Lstice has been nuked. good morning, and i'm confused... this wasn't launched was it? just blew up? what? | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:18 CaucasianAsian wrote: good morning, and i'm confused... this wasn't launched was it? just blew up? what? He is a cohost. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On July 13 2013 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote: Actually, I remember your dick-move analysis. So never mind. So you've essentially called me scum all game, never wavering from it, and because of one post I make you immediately flip that around? yah pretty much. There are things that I don't think you would do as scum. I mean, I've never played with you as scum or read your scum game whichever one that was. But with as often as you have reminded us that you DON"T LIE, then I don't think you're lying about your kid being sick. Further, I mean sure you could bring up your son being sick as scum to get a free pass to lurk, but I don't think that's how you would play. | ||
Stutters695
2610 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:08 Onegu wrote: I thought we were going to stop writeing in russian, I am to lazy to translate even though I see my name. @stutters why didnt you make a different type of nuke. Most people had xata as town and with his claim a radiation nuke would have been much better, are you just lazy? Reading comprehension bro. I couldn't make real nukes. Promising someone everyone think thinks is town a buff doesn't have the same potential for generating discussion as a nuke that ace thought was lethal to his target. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On July 13 2013 11:03 WaveofShadow wrote: Why weren't you pushing me before that? Why didn't you make a case on me? You limply left your vote on me until nearly the end of D1 for basically zero reason and then you jumped on board the ON fail-wagon. I seem to remember you in one of our earlier games (I can't remember which it was, I looked) saying something about how you never pushed a read all game as scum. It's funny because this reminds me of that play. The endless early tunnel also reminds me of your scumplay in The Game, as I mentioned earlier. Have you gotten better overnight? No, you've gotten better over the course of quite a few scumgames that you've had. Let's assume you ARE town right now, however. Let's also assume MG is being nuked and he is not on the table. Who is your scumread? I was pushing you before that. I never ended up casing you up because each time I tried there were people who I found to be more scummy and you had a mixed filter. Besides, on top of dick move analysis you just did patented WoS conspiracy theory so I really couldn't careless. Give me a second to read filters and update reads. I've been thinking about the kills last night and no one has talked about FT being NK'd which seems odd to me as this is his second? game afaik. I want to lynch MG instead of being nuked... besides him I need to look at austin, ace and a few others. At least one of Onegu/Alakaslam is scum. Maybe both. I'll explain more later. | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11559 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:29 geript wrote: I was pushing you before that. I never ended up casing you up because each time I tried there were people who I found to be more scummy and you had a mixed filter. Besides, on top of dick move analysis you just did patented WoS conspiracy theory so I really couldn't careless. Give me a second to read filters and update reads. I've been thinking about the kills last night and no one has talked about FT being NK'd which seems odd to me as this is his second? game afaik. I want to lynch MG instead of being nuked... besides him I need to look at austin, ace and a few others. At least one of Onegu/Alakaslam is scum. Maybe both. I'll explain more later. can you explain why you want him lynched ant not nuked? Either way, if he dies, what's the difference? | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:25 Stutters695 wrote: Reading comprehension bro. I couldn't make real nukes. Promising someone everyone think thinks is town a buff doesn't have the same potential for generating discussion as a nuke that ace thought was lethal to his target. Sorry somehow missed the second claim... Could you not give someone D1, or just didnt give one out? | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On July 13 2013 10:35 geript wrote: Idk why everyone wants to nuke Maju instead of lynch him. We 100% know that there are multiples of multiple roles. A nuke could be redirected in the last minute which would be devastating. A highly suspected scummier could defend him last minute. He could somehow be immune to the nuke. The best action would be to lynch him and fire nukes elsewhere. Hell if you think that I'm scum with Maju, wouldn't I just shoot it down last second? Take the sure route and lynch him. This is why I don't want MG nuked. It's a plain waste of a nuke that we could get better analysis from elsewise. | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:33 CaucasianAsian wrote: can you explain why you want him lynched ant not nuked? Either way, if he dies, what's the difference? He wants to analyse votes, which doesnt make a whole lot of sense as we can analyse no matter who is lynched. | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:34 geript wrote: This is why I don't want MG nuked. It's a plain waste of a nuke that we could get better analysis from elsewise. But this could be true of any scum. And we would have the same problem. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:36 Onegu wrote: But this could be true of any scum. And we would have the same problem. Scum KP is almost always based off of the # of living scum. Removing 1 scum for sure is top priority IMO. We can get other scum later or nuke them. Right now we're down 8 town and only 1 scum. Best option is to try and reduce KP to give ourselves more time if it's necessary. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:29 geript wrote: I was pushing you before that. I never ended up casing you up because each time I tried there were people who I found to be more scummy and you had a mixed filter. Besides, on top of dick move analysis you just did patented WoS conspiracy theory so I really couldn't careless. Give me a second to read filters and update reads. I've been thinking about the kills last night and no one has talked about FT being NK'd which seems odd to me as this is his second? game afaik. I want to lynch MG instead of being nuked... besides him I need to look at austin, ace and a few others. At least one of Onegu/Alakaslam is scum. Maybe both. I'll explain more later. If you were town you'd care a hell of a lot more about me pushing you. Also Wave's Conspiracy Theories™ aren't alignment indicative. Did it in Les, did it in Basterd. I'll grant you the dick-move analysis but the weak as fuck suspicion I didn't like when you kept bringing it up for no apparent reason. I don't see any reason to drop a scumread you've had all game for one post. Makes no sense. Z-Boson, I could lynch you too so by all means, keep telling me who 'we're not lynching today.' | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:42 geript wrote: Scum KP is almost always based off of the # of living scum. Removing 1 scum for sure is top priority IMO. We can get other scum later or nuke them. Right now we're down 8 town and only 1 scum. Best option is to try and reduce KP to give ourselves more time if it's necessary. I just took my methadone so Im not really following you here. 1 We lynch MZ he is scum and he is bussed, we nuke other and they flip town. We get zero info 2 Same as 1 except our nuke is at scum and is redirected. Depending on who redirected and to who we get zero to little info 3 We nuke MZ and vote someone, nuke lands. Then we can also analyze votes and cases depending on the flip. 4 same as 3 except nuke doesnt land, depending on the timeing of the nuke switch or destruction, we may still have time to lynch him. Am I wrong here? | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:54 WaveofShadow wrote: If you were town you'd care a hell of a lot more about me pushing you. Also Wave's Conspiracy Theories™ aren't alignment indicative. Did it in Les, did it in Basterd. I'll grant you the dick-move analysis but the weak as fuck suspicion I didn't like when you kept bringing it up for no apparent reason. I don't see any reason to drop a scumread you've had all game for one post. Makes no sense. Z-Boson, I could lynch you too so by all means, keep telling me who 'we're not lynching today.' I agree with z-bosan, his scum read list did put me to null on him and like xata said he could be 3p, but to be honest I would like a nuke on MZ and a lynch on S&b or z-bosan | ||
Onegu
United States9695 Posts
But after his list not much else put me back to scum. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On July 13 2013 12:57 Onegu wrote: I just took my methadone so Im not really following you here. 1 We lynch MZ he is scum and he is bussed, we nuke other and they flip town. We get zero info 2 Same as 1 except our nuke is at scum and is redirected. Depending on who redirected and to who we get zero to little info 3 We nuke MZ and vote someone, nuke lands. Then we can also analyze votes and cases depending on the flip. 4 same as 3 except nuke doesnt land, depending on the timeing of the nuke switch or destruction, we may still have time to lynch him. Am I wrong here? Look, WoS redirection didn't have to be posted in the thread. I'm assuming defenses have to be posted in the thread. But scum being able to redirect a nuke at the last second is too much of a risk. There's not a reason for it. And putting a nuke on scum or town tends to be very telling in how they react to it. There's just no reason to put ourselves at a risk of a nuke going afoul to try and hit two scum at once without trixies going on. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
Ok so a few things to start off with. I've been exploring the idea of Dandel being bussed. The anti-DI lynch came primarily from Rayn and myself and Xat got on board as well and we were looking for an alternative lynch here. The basic responses that were given were: On July 09 2013 03:42 austinmcc wrote:DI is more of a known quantity and therefore his uselessness/lurkiness/early posts can be compared to his behavior in other games or what people expect out of him. Afaik, abenson and caucasianasian are not in that boat. Also, while I like Dandel Ion, caucasianasian is a much better name and is fun to write. If he dies, we are unlikely to type out his name. On July 09 2013 03:44 Stutters695 wrote: ^ post of the thread On July 09 2013 03:48 austinmcc wrote:If it's on DI, then I think it has the possibility to be a mislynch. My gut read on DI's entrance to the thread was ACTUALLY that it was scummy, because it felt like it was unnecessary to be active/trolly when the rest of the thread was, and so it was more to be able to say "see, here's an active/trolly start from me before I got down to business, just like you guys saw days ago in PTP." That has passed since he's not around. Based on that gut read of his entrance into thread, I'm actually not convinced he'd be a mislynch. If the lynch is on chezinu, I think it's a mislynch. On July 09 2013 03:43 VayneAuthority wrote: dandel's last scum game consisted of typing lawl and u mad? and fake claiming SK until he was finally lynched so yea I post these for one very simple reason. There's a huge switch after the ON case by Austin here. The specific thing that I want to draw your attention to on austin is the huge switch in attitude in a short manner of time. On July 09 2013 03:42 austinmcc wrote: First DI Accusation On July 09 2013 03:48 austinmcc wrote:Second DI Accusation On July 09 2013 04:10 austinmcc wrote:ON Case I don't know about you guys, but there are a few things that stick out as being exceptionally suspicious to me here. First, it takes me a while to put a case together. Like a long time to type and cross reference and make sure things make sense etc. and that case wasn't exactly short, so for austin to pump that out he must not have put a load of time into it. I find this important because it tells me that he has vested interest in shifting the lynch off of DI and onto someone else. Second, Austin was thinking that DI was actually scummy yet he pulls ON out of his hat to say "Hey I want to lynch this guy right now instead." But if DI is scummy, why doesn't he do anything at all to try and push the DI as scum read instead of give tacit "scummy bro is scummy" comments. Third, austin had previous thought negatively of ON + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2013 06:30 austinmcc wrote: There isn't a reason not to lynch him eventually, based on his play so far. I think that his filter is full of junk. His playful posts in the beginning add nothing. He's very, very ... accusatory/bristly, when I don't see a need for him to be. That's a characteristic to compare to past games. Early post towards you, later post towards johnny, just really being antagonistic when there's no reason. Beyond those, he's chimed in on a couple things but either after others have said the same thing, or with chiming that doesn't actually do anything/go anywhere. He don't look groovy. Yes. Xat fakenuked Chez. TLDR edition You can add this to Xat's points, but Austin should be the next lynch for sure (after Maju) or be nuked. I have to get up in 2-3 hours to go work a race then work. I'll be back for a bit tomorrow and later on to post the others. FWIW I'm far less sure that Koshi is scum and I think I may have been overreacting after reading his filter. | ||
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