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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 12 2013 23:38 GMT
#2741
ok vayne and koshi. austin isn't believing stutters claim. he has a decent reasoning. However, I went through his filter and something caught my eye.

When was the first hidden nuke launched? what page?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 12 2013 23:39 GMT
#2742
On July 13 2013 08:37 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 08:25 Ace wrote:
austin, you are sure that PM is fake, correct?
I think that PM is fake. If the missile defense folks are people, not places, I'd be more convinced.


we're going to get to the bottom of this. especially when stutters comes back. But your filter revealed something surprising.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 12 2013 23:39 GMT
#2743
Umm it is possible I killed firm tofu I visited him last night...
Try TL Mafia!!!
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 12 2013 23:40 GMT
#2744
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049&currentpage=22#430 is the first hidden nuke.
Fe fi fo fum.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 12 2013 23:41 GMT
#2745
wtf
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 12 2013 23:42 GMT
#2746
Austin, you knew about the existence of them before they were first launched.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 12 2013 23:42 GMT
#2747
Onegu why would you visit him?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 12 2013 23:43 GMT
#2748
On July 13 2013 08:42 Ace wrote:
Austin, you knew about the existence of them before they were first launched.
Are you going down a "you mentioned there might be hidden nukes before nukes got launched" road?
Fe fi fo fum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 12 2013 23:43 GMT
#2749
On July 13 2013 08:42 Ace wrote:
Austin, you knew about the existence of them before they were first launched.


Comment on my analysis when you can please. Pretty sure I am close to the solution
I come in for the scraps
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 12 2013 23:50 GMT
#2750
On July 13 2013 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 07:00 s0Lstice wrote:
TARGET LOCKED IN. FINAL COUNT.

geript (0): raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion

johnnywup (0): VayneAuthority, Xatalos, WaveofShadow, TanGeng, Abenson, OriginalName

Chezinu (2): raynepelikoneet, Onegu, Ace, TanGeng, Abenson, Xatalos,
raynpelikoneet, jampidampi, gumshoe

WaveofShadow (0): geript, johnnywup

Onegu (1): Nirvana.Gabo, MajuGarzett

austinmcc (0): Xatalos

raynepelikoneet (0): Alakaslam

Z-BosoN (0): Chezinu

Dandel Ion (8): johnnywup, WaveofShadow, OriginalName, Ace, VayneAuthority,
strongandbig, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam, Stutters695, Nirvana.Gabo

Nirvana.Gabo (1): Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, jampidampi

ghost_403 (0): Alakaslam, Chezinu

VayneAuthority (2): FirmTofu, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, FirmTofu, Chezinu

CaucasianAsian (1): geript, Z-BosoN

Oatsmaster (0): Chezinu

jampidampi (0): Chezinu

OriginalName (11): austinmcc, Chezinu, raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion, Xatalos, FirmTofu,
Alakaslam, geript, ghost_403, Chezinu, geript, TanGeng, gumshoe, johnnywup, Onegu

Alakaslam (0): geript


TARGET: OriginalName has been obliterated!



alright so lets roll through this finally, just some food for thought.

On the ON lynch we have rayn, Xat, and Tang who flipped town. We also have Dandel/xig which flipped scum.

To switch the lynch, which is between Chezinu and dandel (which was a scum or scum lynch btw) austin comes in and drops a case on ON as things are looking dire. Chezinu immediately votes for it, when he could have just voted for dandel to save himself. After a few more town like rayn are on aboard, a firestorm of votes begins. Now that we know who is town in those votes...


First voter - Austin = scum.

second voter - Chezinu = scum.

third voter - Rayn = town.

fourth voter - dandel = scum.

fifth voter - Xat = town.

sixth voter - FirmTofu = town.

now where it gets interesting. Alaskazam votes for it then immediately goes back to a useless lynch, realizing that they don't need his vote and he does not want to be associated with this lynch.

Alaskazam = scum.

The remaining = Geript, ghost(Koshi), Gumshoe, Johnnywup, Onegu

Most of the scum have got to be here -_- doubt its the ones towards the end because there's no reason to vote onto a mislynch after its already secured.

Obviously I am wrong on some of these reads but lets really look into their motives here...


First 2 voters on the wagon being scum may be legit. Chezinu has been afk for a long time since his day 1 nuke. Haven't looked at where he was on other wagons. I'm leaning austin scum right now since he seems to have prior knowledge to how things work + prior suspicions before the Day post. When stutters comes back it may be easier to get to this, since he seems sure stutters is lying about his role PM.

Alasklam being scum here is interesting but the theory is a little flawed. If he is scum, then hopping off the wagon when it's a secured lynch looks far worse for him if he is thinking about appearances. He would have to have confidence that no one would catch this until later. Based on the way he posts I doubt that.

gumshoe and Onegu are far more suspect here.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 12 2013 23:51 GMT
#2751
On July 13 2013 08:43 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 08:42 Ace wrote:
Austin, you knew about the existence of them before they were first launched.
Are you going down a "you mentioned there might be hidden nukes before nukes got launched" road?


yes. you did indeed have knowledge of hidden nukes then yes?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 12 2013 23:51 GMT
#2752
On July 13 2013 08:42 Ace wrote:
Onegu why would you visit him?


I thought he was scum based on his voteing pattern and how he played the game targeting people who I thought were town.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 12 2013 23:52 GMT
#2753
either way Onegu, I'm pretty sure he was shot by Scum.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 12 2013 23:53 GMT
#2754
snb, do you believe Onegu's claim to being the same role as you btw?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 23:54 GMT
#2755
I'm not lying lol. Also Austin look at hot I played scum. It was very methodical. Do you honestly think if I was faking a claim on my own(without using my real role to base it off of) I wouldn't look at the dead people/claimed rules to design my wording?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 12 2013 23:55 GMT
#2756
On July 13 2013 08:51 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 08:43 austinmcc wrote:
On July 13 2013 08:42 Ace wrote:
Austin, you knew about the existence of them before they were first launched.
Are you going down a "you mentioned there might be hidden nukes before nukes got launched" road?


yes. you did indeed have knowledge of hidden nukes then yes?
Nope. I joined a game named "Nuclear Winter Mafia" with a mostly-closed setup and the promise of different types of nukes. In terms of "what do you expect from an entire game themed around nukes," that's a pretty quick thing to hypothesize.

You joined the same game I did. Take 10 seconds and go "what kind of roles would I put in a game about nuking?"
On July 07 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vayne try to make some sense if you are town. This is the fucking worst nuke of the century.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 09:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
It's probably a bad idea to do the fake nukes as it narrows down for scum who actually has a nuke when your fake nuke doesn't work. However, his other post was nonsensical, that's true.

At least that's my opinion, which is probably wrong.
This was actually an original thought posted in thread on that page.

Also, as a note, now that we've seen a nuke. If you think you know all sorts of stuff about the nukes in this game, you're probably horribly, horribly wrong. Game themed around nukes. OP mentions different types of nukes, multi-nukers, and we could easily see dud nukes/nuke retargeters/silent nukes/whatever. You can't freak out because chez shot a nuke, that's...sort of what this game is about. Nor do you know if it will land, or where, or anything. So knock it off with the caps and the freaking out.
It's POSSIBLE there are dud nukes if stutters isn't lying. We DO have a nuke retargeter. Silent nukes as well. I'ma just go with I'm a baws at speculation.
Fe fi fo fum.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 23:55 GMT
#2757
Ace what are you talking about with Austin knowing shit in advance?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 12 2013 23:57 GMT
#2758
On July 13 2013 08:55 Stutters695 wrote:
Ace what are you talking about with Austin knowing shit in advance?
The above post, I think. Afaik that post was made before WoS retarged a nuke or we saw MZ get silent nuked.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 13 2013 00:00 GMT
#2759
Stutters did you ask what different types of nukes you could choose from?
Fe fi fo fum.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 13 2013 00:01 GMT
#2760
yes that post. It stuck out because austin hit the nails on the head very well: with the exception of multi-nukers he was correct on the other 3. The only other game with nukes that I know of on the forum are WaW games and I dont remember him being in those.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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