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On June 21 2013 03:24 mkfuba07 wrote: @Vivax:
Why not vote for the scumread that is actually in consideration at the moment instead of adding in jay? I don't care who gets lynched first, my reasoning must be correct if my townreads on stutters and layabout are. So I dropped that vote casually on jay (hence the squeal comment). I'll vote whoever gets the majority, right now we're still open for discussion on who to pick.
Playing straight logically, it would be wiser to lynch Vayne first cause of my check having a 4/5 chance of being correct. But if jay isn't scum then one of layabout or stutters has to be. Since layabout would have been greenchecked by a town jay, I'd dismiss that, and that would leave stutters. I'll reread the guy just to make sure.
Anyway, I just reread jay , and I found that he wrote cases on every guy who got mislynched so far, but didn't write a case on ace for example. It struck me as a pattern. His cases look kinda fabricated too, actually.
Vayne doesn't read my filter and tunnels me since D3, he also has some really suspicious switches of opinions, see the one where he gets "swayed" to vote for prplhz.
Take your pick, it really doesn't matter imo.
##Unvote
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Vivax can you elaborate on what about his cares felt fabricated?
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Also ##unvote
I need to think about this.
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Votecount
VayneAuthority (2): jaybrundage, mkfuba07, kitaman27 Vivax (2): VayneAuthority, VayneAuthority, kitaman27, Stutters mkfuba07 (0) VayneAuthority jaybrundage (0): Vivax
Not Voting (3): layabout, Vivax, Stutters
Vivax is set to be lynched (tiebreak0rz) ~4 hours until deadline
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kitaman27
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Vivax is so confident on his town stutters read that he is willing to lynch a player that is town 80% of the time based on his check. The main backbone of his town read on stutters is medic save on fuba, however there is absolutely no evidence that stutters protected fuba. A town medic could have protected him or a mafia medic could have protected random player X, saw that their hit on fuba didn't go through, and claim to have targeted him for a save. Therefore, the evidence really shouldn't be taken in consideration to determine stutter's alignment. However, he uses this reasoning, which provides no information, to decide that Jay must be the godfather.
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On June 21 2013 04:22 kitaman27 wrote: Vivax is so confident on his town stutters read that he is willing to lynch a player that is town 80% of the time based on his check. The main backbone of his town read on stutters is medic save on fuba, however there is absolutely no evidence that stutters protected fuba. A town medic could have protected him or a mafia medic could have protected random player X, saw that their hit on fuba didn't go through, and claim to have targeted him for a save. Therefore, the evidence really shouldn't be taken in consideration to determine stutter's alignment. However, he uses this reasoning, which provides no information, to decide that Jay must be the godfather.
Where did you read that.
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Kita now you're just starting to make things up to prove I'm scum. That's usually the point where someone should start ignoring you.
##Vote Vayne
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kitaman27
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On June 21 2013 04:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 04:22 kitaman27 wrote: Vivax is so confident on his town stutters read that he is willing to lynch a player that is town 80% of the time based on his check. The main backbone of his town read on stutters is medic save on fuba, however there is absolutely no evidence that stutters protected fuba. A town medic could have protected him or a mafia medic could have protected random player X, saw that their hit on fuba didn't go through, and claim to have targeted him for a save. Therefore, the evidence really shouldn't be taken in consideration to determine stutter's alignment. However, he uses this reasoning, which provides no information, to decide that Jay must be the godfather. Where did you read that.
On June 21 2013 03:18 Vivax wrote: I can't really eliminate stutters, that's correct, I decided I'd roll with town since his explanation for the Fuba save, mainly.
Am I misinterpreting this statement?
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Yup, I found his explanation of the choice townie, not the save itself.
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As you should know if you read my filter previously.
I should have said at some point that I found his explanation too convoluted to come from scum, but maybe it was in the post that I lost in a crash.
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kitaman27
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On June 17 2013 22:53 Stutters695 wrote: I'm awake. Sorry I wasn't here yesterday, spent the day with my girlfriend's father.
Anyway I attempted to medic Fuba for two main reasons. 1) Kita was such an obvious save that I figured scum would avoid him after two night phases ago when it seems Kita was pretty likely to have been hit.
2) so after deciding that I wouldn't save Kita, it came down to layabout, Fuba or WoS by virtue of them being town enough that they aren't going to get lynched but not obvious enough of a save that scum would think it would go through. I based this off of their previous kills. Then I just gut picked Fuba because he's who I would shoot in that position as scum.
Is this the post that you are referencing that is so detailed and convincing that you would prefer to vote for your cop (80%) green check? I guess we would have to disagree on that one.
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If you've got arguments for stutters to be scum, then I'm all ears. Until you do that, only my conclusion makes sense.
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What do you think of stutters last second changing his vote to rayn the first day with no explanation?
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kitaman27
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On June 18 2013 09:54 VayneAuthority wrote: If people want to policy lynch me, go ahead! won't make me or you any better at this game.
[QUOTE]On June 20 2013 04:56 VayneAuthority wrote: it's the truth, and at least I get the satisfaction of seeing the dumbass look on the rest of the town's face when I flip green./quote]
[QUOTE]On June 20 2013 04:56 VayneAuthority wrote: This game is too easy yawn. Time to see if any other dumb townies fall for it I guess.[/quote]
[QUOTE]On June 20 2013 04:56 VayneAuthority wrote: might as well consider it gamethrowing at this point[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On June 20 2013 05:12 VayneAuthority wrote: I am going to seriously laugh if you are town, i would shit my pants lol[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On June 20 2013 09:00 VayneAuthority wrote: really dude if you're town I never want to play with you again. Your logic is so trash tier I lose brain cells every time I read a post by you.[/QUOTE]
So Vayne, what is the point of these appeals to emotion if you are town? You must know that it is a common mafia tactic, so why would you consider emulating it as town?
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kitaman27
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EBWOP:
On June 18 2013 09:54 VayneAuthority wrote: If people want to policy lynch me, go ahead! won't make me or you any better at this game.
On June 20 2013 04:56 VayneAuthority wrote: it's the truth, and at least I get the satisfaction of seeing the dumbass look on the rest of the town's face when I flip green.
On June 20 2013 04:56 VayneAuthority wrote: This game is too easy yawn. Time to see if any other dumb townies fall for it I guess.
On June 20 2013 04:56 VayneAuthority wrote: might as well consider it gamethrowing at this point
On June 20 2013 05:12 VayneAuthority wrote: I am going to seriously laugh if you are town, i would shit my pants lol
On June 20 2013 09:00 VayneAuthority wrote: really dude if you're town I never want to play with you again. Your logic is so trash tier I lose brain cells every time I read a post by you.
So Vayne, what is the point of these appeals to emotion if you are town? You must know that it is a common mafia tactic, so why would you consider emulating it as town?
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If you think it's a mafia tactic, you will be sadly mistaken when I flip.
That has nothing to do with alignment.
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kitaman27
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On May 26 2013 06:12 VayneAuthority wrote: Martyring is one of the biggest scumtraits of all time, cant tell if srs. People use it all the time to ATE to avoid being lynched like you have been all game.
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Meh, rereading I found stuff that makes me doubt my read again:
On June 13 2013 09:20 Stutters695 wrote:I think I'd rather see sent flip, but I can get behind this for now ##vote: VivaxGonna do some filter diving, playing two games with multiple people is getting me all sorts of fucked up.
On June 13 2013 11:00 Stutters695 wrote: Protip lynch prpl if vivax flips town. There is a reason I made a case on him d1
On June 15 2013 02:34 Stutters695 wrote: Lynch vivax first. If he flips scum we know his claim is worthless and sent is probably scum. If he's town then we're looking at the odds of him getting gf compared to just scummy town play.
Stutters continuosly claims that he wants to lynch someone else, but keeps his vote on me. He said he had a reason to make a case on prplhz, but doesn't talk about prplhz all day long.
But honestly, compared to this:
On June 06 2013 05:26 jaybrundage wrote: Im curious why is rayn getting so much votes. He just seemed to not be very active. I recall someone saying that he is usually more active is that the main reason people are going for him?
It just seems like everyone is consolidating but im not sure why on him :o
On June 06 2013 07:17 jaybrundage wrote: Im around Im not on rayn but who would you guys wanna get oatsmaster? I havent read to much on him. As far as i can remember he was just tunneling ace. But I dont see him as very scummy. Going gong ho trying to lynch a vet doesnt seem like something scum would do.
it seems rather harmless, especially compared to the last one.
HEY GUYS WANNA LYNCH OATSMASTER? DIDNT READ LOL BUT HE'S TUNNELING A VET SO HE DOESN'T LOOK SCUMMY
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So Vayne, what is the point of these appeals to emotion if you are town? You must know that it is a common mafia tactic, so why would you consider emulating it as town?
On June 21 2013 05:11 VayneAuthority wrote: If you think it's a mafia tactic, you will be sadly mistaken when I flip.
That has nothing to do with alignment.
On June 21 2013 05:16 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 06:12 VayneAuthority wrote: Martyring is one of the biggest scumtraits of all time, cant tell if srs. People use it all the time to ATE to avoid being lynched like you have been all game.
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If you want to go look up old shit check one of the first posts I ever made on this website in terms of mafia, I only get upset when I am going to be lynched when I am town.
None of that shit means anything.
There is also a huge difference between martyring and what I am doing, I'm not even voting for myself.
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