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kitaman27
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On June 10 2013 04:47 Ace wrote: kita, Wos here is a simple question: assume I am Scum. Why would I be begging you to check me for 2 days ahead of time to prove my innocence?
Gotta start ahead of time knowing oats will flip town.
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Guys we have to lynch Ace. Hes scum who made a ballsy move for calling a red check on a townie. We can't let him talk his way out of this. THE WAGON OF JUSTICE TMR
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On June 10 2013 04:47 Ace wrote: kita, Wos here is a simple question: assume I am Scum. Why would I be begging you to check me for 2 days ahead of time to prove my innocence? 2 days? I count one ingame day where you started asking, and that was only after the check. As layabout and I have said (and I don't understand why layabout is now saying we should check you because of this) because you're gambling on scum's future with this. I already addressed this in my earlier post. If you don't want to read it or listen that's your prerogative.
Ace you are absolutely not changing my mind on this. Better try the other sheep.
As far as who else is scum, I have to re-read a bunch but I'm not going to get a chance before the NKs most likely. Oats' list is interesting to say the least; I wish he gave us a little more to go on regarding interaction with other people in the game before he died. I'm going to trash my townread on Sent because of him though, and look from scratch.
Kita where dem big cases at, mang? Who is scum?
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On June 10 2013 04:57 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 04:55 Ace wrote:On June 10 2013 04:50 layabout wrote:On June 10 2013 04:47 Ace wrote: kita, Wos here is a simple question: assume I am Scum. Why would I be begging you to check me for 2 days ahead of time to prove my innocence? Because you are taking a risk that has a potentially huge payoff right, but I would have needed to get lucky 2 nights in a row and setup Oats ahead of time. Without checking me we mislynch and get up to 8 Town deaths and lylo. Which one seems like the smarter option here? You don't have to tell ME? wait 8?
zeph, sl0osh, Oats. 2 Town tonight, Me, 2 Town tomorrow night
On June 10 2013 04:58 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 04:47 Ace wrote: kita, Wos here is a simple question: assume I am Scum. Why would I be begging you to check me for 2 days ahead of time to prove my innocence? Gotta start ahead of time knowing oats will flip town.
??? So when you guys advocate not checking me, why didn't I take that as an out and run?
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On June 10 2013 04:57 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 04:55 Ace wrote:On June 10 2013 04:50 layabout wrote:On June 10 2013 04:47 Ace wrote: kita, Wos here is a simple question: assume I am Scum. Why would I be begging you to check me for 2 days ahead of time to prove my innocence? Because you are taking a risk that has a potentially huge payoff right, but I would have needed to get lucky 2 nights in a row and setup Oats ahead of time. Without checking me we mislynch and get up to 8 Town deaths and lylo. Which one seems like the smarter option here? You don't have to tell ME? wait 8? 8 town deaths, 9 total which puts us at 4-3.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On June 10 2013 05:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Kita where dem big cases at, mang? Who is scum?
Deadline posting.
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On June 10 2013 05:08 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 05:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Kita where dem big cases at, mang? Who is scum? Deadline posting. kk. I forgot to worry about that honestly 'cause I never get NKed
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On June 10 2013 05:03 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 04:57 layabout wrote:On June 10 2013 04:55 Ace wrote:On June 10 2013 04:50 layabout wrote:On June 10 2013 04:47 Ace wrote: kita, Wos here is a simple question: assume I am Scum. Why would I be begging you to check me for 2 days ahead of time to prove my innocence? Because you are taking a risk that has a potentially huge payoff right, but I would have needed to get lucky 2 nights in a row and setup Oats ahead of time. Without checking me we mislynch and get up to 8 Town deaths and lylo. Which one seems like the smarter option here? You don't have to tell ME? wait 8? zeph, sl0osh, Oats. 2 Town tonight, Me, 2 Town tomorrow night Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 04:58 kitaman27 wrote:On June 10 2013 04:47 Ace wrote: kita, Wos here is a simple question: assume I am Scum. Why would I be begging you to check me for 2 days ahead of time to prove my innocence? Gotta start ahead of time knowing oats will flip town. ??? So when you guys advocate not checking me, why didn't I take that as an out and run? Here's my issue though Ace. Assuming you are scum, either you or a scum buddy rolled cop n1. With that knowledge and Oats general level of play a mislynch is easy to secure. You're also certainly aware of the odds of him getting miller being very low and that when you call for a cop check, we can't trust the result anyway because of both Miller and the possibility of a scumbuddy rolling cop and claiming you're green. If your play was more like LXI I'd probably be hesitant, but I don't see how we can trust you at all.
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so then you check me tonight Stutters. That means I'd be banking on a scumbuddy getting cop or me rolling miller/gf. Remember, I was under no threat of getting lynched - why stick my neck out knowing this is a possibility? Also what happened in LXI, I don't remember what game that was.
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Stutters if you're still around I've got a question for you
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Sure, shoot. LXI you were the serial poisoner who was playing so town you got caught because you kept getting defensively RBd.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
By the way, Ace's cop discussion is likely an attempt to try to figure out who it is. Don't bite.
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On June 10 2013 05:49 Stutters695 wrote: Sure, shoot. LXI you were the serial poisoner who was playing so town you got caught because you kept getting defensively RBd.
Aww I'll take that as a compliment. Although I'd like you to point what is so un-Town like about me this game.
So here's my question. Imagine you get cop night 1 this game. Your top scum read comes back with a red check. You are under no pressure of getting lynched. Would you claim? In essence tell me what you would have done differently than I did because this isn't making sense to me.
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On June 10 2013 05:57 kitaman27 wrote: By the way, Ace's cop discussion is likely an attempt to try to figure out who it is. Don't bite.
More WIFOM from kita.
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Layabout, question: Don't you think it's a waste to check ace? If he's scum that's exactly what he wants. It's one less cop check to use on someone else. If he's town then, yeah ok we saved a townie but we also lynched one, and there's always the risk that he rolled godfather or that scum got cop again, albeit being a small risk.
If Ace is town the best thing to do is check him to stop a mislynch. If Ace is scum then checking him should confirm that. There is a risk associated with checking him but that cannot be helped. But i would rather we take it than mislynch and have only day1 where people had to justify their votes beyond it being the perceived optimal play because of a check.
But do you feel that ace has a sufficient chance of being town? I found his way of talking to Oats suspicious tbh, he already knew that he was scum but he almost sounded as if he wanted to convince him of his own innocence IIRC. At least that's the impression I got from checking their interactions.
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Ace, may I ask you for your read on prplhz?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Ace, may I ask you for your read on Vivax?
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On June 10 2013 06:10 Ace wrote: I dont have one on him
How about a
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On June 10 2013 06:04 Vivax wrote:Layabout, question: Don't you think it's a waste to check ace? If he's scum that's exactly what he wants. It's one less cop check to use on someone else. If he's town then, yeah ok we saved a townie but we also lynched one, and there's always the risk that he rolled godfather or that scum got cop again, albeit being a small risk. Show nested quote + If Ace is town the best thing to do is check him to stop a mislynch. If Ace is scum then checking him should confirm that. There is a risk associated with checking him but that cannot be helped. But i would rather we take it than mislynch and have only day1 where people had to justify their votes beyond it being the perceived optimal play because of a check.
But do you feel that ace has a sufficient chance of being town? I found his way of talking to Oats suspicious tbh, he already knew that he was scum but he almost sounded as if he wanted to convince him of his own innocence IIRC. At least that's the impression I got from checking their interactions.
Suspicious? :/
Seriously how many ways can you guys stretch things? If my name wasn't Ace no one would be questioning that check. There's some bias going on with scum motivation to get me lynched. Can one person tell me how a Town Cop coming out with a check is a bad decision there, especially when the check is on his top scum suspect.
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