On May 20 2013 15:47 kushm4sta wrote:
grush57
slOosh
kushm4sta
strongandbig
shirokami
VisceraEyes
prplhz
ObviousOne
WaveofShadow
Oatsmaster
Promethelax

5 scum in this game?
thats kinda lot.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

May 20 2013 09:18 GMT

#1765

On May 20 2013 18:05 shirokami wrote:
Yeah buddy I'm not scum.

On May 20 2013 18:10 Oatsmaster wrote:

Show nested quote +

5 scum in this game?
thats kinda lot.

On April 14 2013 05:34 Ace wrote:
There are 5 Mafia. Their killing power is hidden.

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

May 20 2013 11:16 GMT

#1766

Day 3 wagons

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

prplhz[L-2]: kushmasta, ObviousOne, grush57, prplhz
kushmasta[L-6]: ~~prplhz~~
Promethelax[L-3]: sloosh, Oatsmaster, shirokami

Day 3 ends Tuesday, May 21 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) if no majority is reached

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 20 2013 13:14 GMT

#1767

holy fuck there are 5 mafia in this game... didn't know that and I was hoping that was a high estimate.

We do kind of have to kill SK then to prevent 2 nks.
Except it might be the case that SK will have to kill mafia to have a chance at his wincon. That's probably why scum want him dead at this point.

SK claim, and maybe we can work out a mutually beneficial deal here which furthers both of our wincons.

If not, we are going to have to kill you.

##unvote
##vote prome

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 20 2013 13:16 GMT

#1768

also if vig shot BH you must claim that shit

Oatsmaster

United States16627 Posts

May 20 2013 14:03 GMT

#1769

nononono we do not deal with the SK no.
NO.

Oatsmaster

United States16627 Posts

May 20 2013 14:05 GMT

#1770

ok
11 players left
4 scum
1 3P
that leaves us with 6 town.
Its not mylo yet.
But if we lynch town, and 3p shoots town we lose.
If we lynch 3p, its lylo tmr.
which is better than leaving the 3p alive I feel.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 20 2013 14:47 GMT

#1771

SK we will make a deal with you.. please claim don't listen to oats

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

May 20 2013 15:13 GMT

#1772

So here's a question. how is what is effectively a 19-5-1 setup balanced exactly? Like I know we've sucked thus far but that seems entirely too town-unfavoured to me.

Oatsmaster

United States16627 Posts

May 20 2013 16:57 GMT

#1773

On May 21 2013 00:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
So here's a question. how is what is effectively a 19-5-1 setup balanced exactly? Like I know we've sucked thus far but that seems entirely too town-unfavoured to me.

1 scum nk.
1 3P.

I dont think its town unfavoured at all./

Oatsmaster

United States16627 Posts

May 20 2013 16:59 GMT

#1774

On May 20 2013 23:47 kushm4sta wrote:

SK we will make a deal with you.. please claim don't listen to oats

In what way will this help town and not fuck us over?

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 20 2013 17:13 GMT

#1775

we let sk live as long as he promises to shoot scum for us

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 20 2013 17:14 GMT

#1776

at this point sk is town mvp for shooting bh. Without that this game would be pretty much over.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

May 20 2013 17:31 GMT

#1777

hi guys, I'm back.

This is how today goes: we lynch either Oats or Sloosh. Both of whom are scum. My only point on a town Oats was my early belief that scum had two night hits and his suggestion of a vig for the second hit. Since based on how the NKs worked out (as Sloosh correctly pointed out) there is probably a serial killer and scum only have one NK which means that Oats' townslip was actually a scumslip.
Why is sloosh scum? Well its because he is really easy to read as scum. If you need help because you are bad though look at his play this day: he is SK hunting not scum hunting. An sk lynch is the same as a town lynch for scum, probably even better since the SK needs to be shooting Scum right now as evidenced by the BH shot last night. Having the SK alive assuming that it is indeed an SK (KISS suggests it is) is way more beneficial to town than it is to scum. We get to lynch and Scum need to nk the SK since he is the only non-scum kp in the game (besides the flipped vivax).

SnB: no, there is no reason for me to think you are scum, but I need to call Kush scum to be able to read him and that was my chance to do so.

I said I liked the prp/kush lynch dichotomy earlier but I like it a lot less now. Kush seems really townie in these last few pages his appeals to me to claim serial killer and ally myself with town are a thing he would not suggest as scum.

In case you guys decide to lynch me I'm posting a full reads list with reasons so that you can maaaaybe make this a win for us.

Oatsmaster has played anti-twon the whole game, his activity is pathetic and his interest is minimal. Plus scumslip about n0 nk
SloOsh lurky scum play, focused attack on me trying to pass off sk-hunting as pro town while avoiding scum hunting. Chainsaw defense of bh.

VE less sure than I am on the above but his OO stuff early wasn't right and my meta case from Chrono still holds. VE hasn't added anything to the game that he should as a townie. This is either VE's scumgame or the single worst town game I have ever seen from him.

Shiro he was such an idiot early on that I had him as town, Rayn had a similar read. If we assume Rayn was the scum shot though that might have been to cover Shiro from someone who knew him. I wouldn't lynch him yet but I'm damn sure that I don't want him in lylo if it is at all avoidable.
OO I do like his d2 play. BH's retard push on him for martyring also suggests that he is town. Of the three guys in this null column he is the one I think would have the skill to fool me as scum though. For the moment not really worth calling scum but he'll need to be looked at again as the game goes on.
prp My heuristic with prp early game tells me he is town, his play hasn't done anything for me since that and he certainly could be scum. I find it somewhat unlikely though.

Me[/me]
WoS seriously the towniest mother fucker in the world.
Kush his play today, he is actually interested in killing scum and winning game for town. Asking sk to claim is a very townie thing for kush to do.
[b]Grush I believe in STARSENSES

For the purposes of the above list I treated this game as anti-scum/scum since the SK is on our side for now. I'm not to worried about him as town is so far behind right now (5-4-1) that he is shooting scum for a while and because of that scum HAVE to shoot him or push through a lynch on him. I say we lynch scum today and make scum waste their kp on sk so we can win this game.

##Vote: Oatsmaster you are all welcome to sheep me now.

If scum seriously think I am the sk it probably means they shot me last night and I was protected from their nk, that would explain the retard push on me today. I'll probably get hit next night since they are so sure I'm sk so after I flip remember this post and come back and read it. I'd like you all to pull out the win for us kthx.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

May 20 2013 17:35 GMT

#1778

hurr durps

SnB I like his play a lot and his all game tunnel of Oats seems good. I'm also pretty sure scum will have to night kill him eventually because along with me and prp he is one of the few players who I'm not sure are scum who have the skill to win the game on their own for town. He maaaaaaay have been master bussing Oats but I don't think so. Towniest of my nulls.